Lancaster, PA

Red Tail Run

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jamespenn
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 4.2 years 35 played 36 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Primitive yet with some fun quirks

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 8, 2024 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

The artificial turf tees are well built. They are flat and dry although some have been cut open, maybe to fix drainage. Didn't affect play though. The photos on here appear to show cement tees and some decent signs, maybe those were there when the course was first put in. It's definitely not cement tees and decent signs now.

If you're an older guy, the hills and slopes are very gentle.

Almost every basket is strategically placed to have something in the way, even though the place looks like it's an open cornfield.

It doesn't look like much on the card, or when you pull into the parking lot near the first tee, yet every hole gives you something to think about, and the design forces you to work the disc in both directions.

Whoever set up this place clearly did it with very little money, but they like disc golf and disc golfers because I think it's pretty equal for both left and right handers and forces you to do more than you think you have to.

Cons:

The signs are a little white piece of wood on a stake, with the hole number and distance written on it in black sharpie. So you don't get a lot of info. Then again, every hole is a par 3 other than 18, and it's right there for you to look at. It's a good thing the signs are there though, because otherwise it'd be tough to find the next hole. The turf tees blend right into the ground.

It's not the prettiest course in the world. It's flat, not very many trees so it's surely sweltering in the summer, and the design winds in and out of cornfields, maintenance sheds, athletic facilities and drainage ditches. Then again, the college doesn't ask you for money, not even a donation. Just go have fun!

While there are a few pretty cool holes, there are a few bland ones too, no more so than the last hole, which is the only par 4. It's a flat, open field for all 630 feet. There is a stone path near the basket you could play as OB if you want although there is no mention of OB anywhere on the signs or UDisc. I imagine a tournament there would play the cornfields, ditches and vehicle paths as OB.

Your first time around you'll need UDisc to find the next tee on most of the holes. There aren't a lot of long walks between holes, it's just tough to see where the next tee is or where the next hole goes when you're in an open field most of the time.

Other Thoughts:

I've been here twice now and while it looks really bland from the parking lot, with no amenities and hardly any shade or elevation, the course always gives you a little something to do on each tee. Hole 1 seems like a nothing hole, until you stand on the tee and realize you have to squeeze through an early gap, down a little hill, across a ditch and keep it straight for 275 feet to get to a basket on the far side of a retention basin. Then you turn around and play right back up the same hill, with a basket on a fairly steep slope.

The course continues on this path, giving you a series of par 3s mostly in the 275-300 neighborhood, although there is one over 400 and a couple of short ones here and there. #1-3 are all pretty similar, 275 feet or so with some scattered tree problems.

The first shorty is #4 which gets your attention right away with the big M painted on a tree. "I have to go through that gap?!?!" You do if you want to go straight at the basket...but is there maybe another way? Look around.

The weakest section of the course starts with #5 where you play several par 3s in a row that are pretty long and pretty bland, although if you play the drainage ditches, and corn as OB, now you have some problems to deal with.

The course starts to perk up again with number #10. The 403 foot distance gets your attention, plus the fact the basket looks like it's on the front steps of an old farmhouse. Don't worry, it's all part of the college. And it's not 400 feet if you go directly at the basket, although there is a lot of pretend OB to carry. Again, there is no OB mentioned, but pretending it's there adds some drama.

#11-#13 are also fun. #11 is pretty much smack in the middle of the maintenance area, and is a left to right dogleg around a shed. Clearly the shed has been hit a few times. #12 is another one with the basket on a pretty severe slope, and #13 is another very fun little hole, less than 200 feet, but you have to navigate between the cornfield and a hillside, with a shot that curves to the right, and crashes through a little grove of trees

#14 is clearly the signature hole, a very short par 3 but filled with obstacles, to a basket hanging from the roof of an old shed. This is about the only time you're in the shade. It seems like nothing on the card, but getting through the row of trees halfway to the basket is no gimme, and now there's construction going on right in front of the tee that a shorter person is going to have a tough time avoiding. Moving a few feet to the side is probably a good alternative.

After the peak of #14, the course gives you one more enjoyable throw, #15 is in the prettiest part of the routing, and sets the basket in another little grove of trees, across the drainage ditch. It's OB if you want it to be.

After that, #16-#18 return you to your car. I was getting worried the course would end miles from nowhere, but no, you do finish right back where you started. Much appreciated!

As for difficulty, the course doesn't seem difficult, you can make tons of pars, but it isn't as easy as it looks to get decent short birdie chances. The second time I played, UDisc had ratings, and +1 was rated 191. I was surprised it was that high, because this seems like a place where you can make 13 birdies on a good day. Yet it's just long enough and just technical enough that you have a lot of 60-footers for birdie.

I looked on PDGA and it doesn't look like there's been any rated events there yet. There is a Red Rose Roundup scheduled there for June 1. The corn might present some real problems by then, and not just because it'll probably be OB.

It's a great course for beginners who have a little distance, and it's challenging enough so that we intermediate people have the occasional problem. Especially if you impose a bunch of OB. It's a decent course and thanks for putting it in.
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HyooMac
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Experience: 6.8 years 419 played 387 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Good Campus Course, But Stay Out of the Corn! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 30, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good, mostly open course on a college campus. Lots of straight holes.



+ Largely open landscape, but the designer cleverly uses tree lines and other obstacles to shape some holes. Best example is Hole #4 which uses a grove of trees up the middle to suggest the alternative of throwing a RHFH hyzer up along a sidehill, but controlling it so it doesn't fly above the OB fence at the top. So whether you go for the sidearm or the careful straight shot, either feels very satisfying to make


+ The initial holes tend to place tees behind narrow tree gaps, adding some challenge. Once you get past #8, it's mostly open except for cornfields (more on those later)


+ Decent finishing hole: a wide open 650' par 4 (the only par 4 on the course) to an elevated basket atop a rock


Cons:

- OB cornfields border a lot of holes. In a few cases the fairways are narrow, so the corn will present a real obstacle during the growing season (not to mention an almost surely lost disc if it drops into high corn on neighboring property). During the winter you have pretty wide throwing lines and forgiving OB. But during the warm months, it plays like having water hazards bordering half the holes


Other Thoughts:

~ Hole #14 is a short downhill where you have to thread small gaps between some trees, and the basket is hanging from the rafters of an exposed old barn. The clever basket placement gives it the feeling of a "signature" hole, but because you're throwing downhill to try to hit the gap, it's unlikely your disc will then go far enough for a clean birdie attempt



~ There are a few doglegs, but the majority of the holes are straight. You could play this course for par with a neutral mid on a flat release


~ The relatively minor cons balance out with relatively minor pros, making Red Tail Run a run-of-the-mill 3. Fun, pleasant, pretty easy - with a couple of distinctive touches. A great "campus recreation" course. Not a bad place to bring a beginner who's ready to step up, but do it in the winter when the bordering cornfields aren't active



COURSE AMENITIES:
Good carpet tees, very good DGA Mach VII baskets, signage is minimal. Navigation is very intuitive (head to the nearest tee) with the only exception of 6 to 7 - where you have to backtrack a little


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Caelstrom
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.1 years 33 played 13 reviews
2.50 star(s)

A few gems on a mostly "meh" course. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 4, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course does make decent use of the space they had. There are a few holes that really stand out as fun/interesting (4, 11, and 14), and few others that at least made you think about your shots (7, 13). Hole 14 was really creative, and it's worth playing the course once just to enjoy that hole. The tee pads were carpet, which I found surprisingly pleasant under the feet.

Cons:

Maybe I'm just spoiled because south-central PA has so many really good disc golf courses, but this course seemed to be lacking compared to so many other courses in the area. Signage was one factor. There was no real clear indicator for the first tee (to the left of and beyond the practice basket when standing in the parking lot). The tee signs were really small, and while it appears that someone drew images on them, many of the images have been weathered away. Often the only information I could glean from the signs was distance to the basket. Some of the "Next Tee" arrows were half falling off the baskets, but navigation between holes was not really a problem.

The bigger issue though was that so many of the holes were just straight shots to a basket that was directly ahead of the tee (Holes 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12, 15, 16, 17, and 18). While there may have been some technical component to these shots (narrow gaps, slight elevation changes, defender trees, and the dreaded OB corn fields that want to suck any errant discs into an oblivion never to be found again), the objective was always the same: throw straight, don't hit anything. By the end of the course it felt tedious and I was playing just to finish, not for the enjoyment of it.

Finally, as far as accommodations go this was pretty much a bare-bones course. No benches, no trash cans along the way, and no bathrooms available that I could see.

Other Thoughts:

Final Thoughts:

If I were a college student living on this campus and I had access to this course at a short walk from my dorm, I'd think that was a great perk, and I'd probably play this course frequently. As an adult recreational disc-golfer with over a dozen other much nicer courses within an hour from home, I doubt I will choose to play this one again.
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travis.d
Experience: 14.7 years 18 played 4 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A great course to hone your game. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 16, 2021 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This course is not long or packed in thick woods, but it still does a good job of providing a technical challenge to players, forcing you to hit gaps through trees and particular lines. The left and right finishing shots are fairly balanced, as well as the elevation up and down. The variety provides a fun challenge to hone your skills and there are still a few holes which allow you to air it out and require distance off the tee.

Nice Mach 7 baskets are in great shape.

Cons:

Since this is on a private campus, there aren't much amenities on site. Additionally, hole 18 can sometimes have college events on it which interfere with play. Due to the limited space, there is only one par 4, and most other par 3s are <350 feet, so there is not a lot of distance shots on the course other than just a few holes.

The teepads are only carpet, so they are not ideal.

Other Thoughts:

I am certainly biased in this review, but I tried to provide my objective opinion to the best of my ability.
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