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Fox River Park - Grey Fox

4.035(based on 46 reviews)
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ArcheType
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14 years 38 played 25 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Shouldn't be associated with Red Fox, lol 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 20, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Right when you enter this course you can see how well maintained it is. Drinking fountains, bathrooms, picnic areas, everything you could ask for.

-Walking up to tee 1, you see the awesome teepads, excellently maintained and level.

-The next thing you'll see is the awesome signs, some of the nicest I've ever seen.

-Then you get to see the holes. This course has an awesome mix of left, right, downhill, and uphill shots. Hole 6 in particular is an awesome uphill anhyzer shot unlike any I've seen. 18 is also a sweet downhill, almost a tunnel shot, with plenty of rough to punish errant drives.

-The most outstanding part of this course is the pin positions. These change not only the length, but the feel of almost every hole. While I only got to play a single position for each hole, I did take the time to walk out the others and see how extreme the differences are.

Cons:

-I hear the bugs are crazy at this course, with how late in the winter I played it I can't comment on that though.

-Some of the flow of the holes is a little counter intuitive, but nothing terrible. I'm sure you could find your way around on your own without much difficulty.

Other Thoughts:

This course is outstanding, and apparently backed by an even more outstanding community. The people who put this together do an excellent job, and deserve your support. Dropping a dollar in the donation box is almost an obligation given how nice this course is.
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mikeb23
Experience: 14 years 16 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 21, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Very well maintained, good mix of shots, they change the pin placements every couple of weeks so you arent playaing the same course over and over. The first nine holes are somewhat open, with trees and bushes in the way to make for a few pretty technical shots. The back nine is heavily wooded with a lot of tunnel shots. The course does not favor righty or lefty throwers.

Cons:

The mosquitoes are awful so bring very powerful bug spray.

Other Thoughts:

I love this course. I would say it is probably the best course to play in my area. It is extremely well taken care of and they change the pin placements every few weeks. I also like the small pitch and putt course in the park as a warm up. If you are in the area I would highly reccommend playing a round or two.
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Jukeshoe
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.7 years 316 played 268 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Sly Like The Fox 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 20, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

- Trapezoidal, brushed concrete tees are grippy, level and in great shape. The best tees I've played upon, hands down.
- Very well manicured and maintained for the most part. Located in a park with full amenities: bathrooms, water fountains, picnic shelters, playground equipment, volleyball courts, sledding hills, tennis courts, baseball diamonds, boat launch and grass "labyrinth."
- A great mix of hole styles keeps the course progression fresh and entertaining. Dual pin positions change the feel of each hole. Tunnel/gap shots, hyzers, anhyzers, this course will challenge your repertoire. Risk/reward opportunities abound, especially on the back nine.
- Great use of the moderate elevation, especially #6 and #18. #6 forces a blind uphill anhyzer with woods on both sides to the short pin position. #18 throws downhill through woods, with heavy brush and wooded areas to both sides waiting to ruin your day.
- The best signage I've seen, supplemented by a great scorecard. Pin positions are noted on the sign with a bolt. The scorecard is located in a box near the parking lot. It currently does not include the newer back nine on the card, but that is probably in the process of being rectified, based on how "together" the park's keepers seem to be.

Cons:

- Although maintained well for the most part, around the edges this course is a bit rough. Poison ivy teemed in some roughs, and the swampy areas near the Fox River are breeding grounds for insects.
- A few scattered grills in the fairways seemed incongruent with the rest of this fine course's layout.
- The flow between holes is a bit tricky in one or two spots, but nothing too egregious.

Other Thoughts:

- The mosquitoes by the woods were rabid. Although they've been bad everywhere in the region this year, this course had the worst I've ever experienced. Clouds (literally) of the little devils swarmed through multiple layers of 100% Deet to make the round really miserable. I can't list this as a con, but be aware that the nearby Fox River probably contributes to an insect problem on a yearly basis. Bring spray and still expect to be chewed on!
- There is a donation box near the 1st hole (by the scorecards). Donate! The people running Grey Fox are doing it right. Support their efforts.
- Disc shop nearby (you'll pass it on the way if you come from 94). It was not open when we stopped by, so I'm uncertain as to selection, prices, etc.
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lordofchance
Experience: 15.9 years 13 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great End to a Road Trip 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 8, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Nice mix of open shots and wooded shots
- Nice variety in pin placement
- Cement Tee's
- Great use of hills on a few holes
- Great use of Traffic signs to indicate basket location on sharp curves
- Very well maintained

Cons:

- Most fairways were pretty straight and their was very little risk/reward for shots.
- Bugs on the back 9 were horrible
- Pin location on some of the signs felt off on some of the holes

Other Thoughts:

Some friends and I made a weekend trip to Milwaukee for a disc golf weekend. This course provided an amazing end to our trip while on our way back to IL. During the weekend we played Dretzka, Brown Deer and Grey Fox. I feel that this was my favorite course and I defiantly want to make a second trip back to the course.
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smyith
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.6 years 213 played 68 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Best in the local area 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Nov 27, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- Nice large level cement tee pads
- Great tee sign...although some have been ripped off the post already :(
- Well manicured
- bathrooms
- Dogs allowed
- Course separate from other park activities
- Tight fairways
- Descent to good shot shaping required
- Difficult rough but easy to find disc
- Back 9 well designed
- Lots of room on the front 9 but still require accuracy.
- Very clean

Cons:

- Holes 2 and 5 really drag the front 9s quality down. 5s tee could easily be moved back into the woods a little bit. Would make it way better. 2 would be cool if the long was the short and a pin placement got but in the woods a little bit.
- Flat straight shots is the pre-dominant drive (13/14 of 18)
- Utility and mid range drives are all that is needed
- Wind not really a factor on majority of course
- Bugs can be really bad
- #16s short is WAY! better than the long.
- #17s tee is "crowded" on the backside.

Other Thoughts:

**Update**
I have finally got to play Grey Fox in all longs. So I am going to re-rate the course based on its optimal pin positions.
#1b #2b #3b #4b #5a #6b #7b #8b #9b #10b #11b #12b #13b #14b #15b #16a #17b #18b
From the tee the majority of shots are generally very straight. The real challenge here is on the upshot. Alot of shot shaping is required with your approach disc is required to score well. Because of this the tee shots need to be well placed. There are only a few "easy" deuces on the course. In the longs a 1000 rated round is a 54-55.
Most of the shorts are extremely lame and really reduce the quality of the course design. In the long is a well though out 2 or a well managed 3 but in the short its an almost automatic 2 or a lazy 3. I think this is why I intial rated this course poorly.

Course Overview (longs):
Hole 1 is a extremely well guarded pin. It has a low ceiling and several guardian trees including a large pine tree that eats discs. You must pick the right disc and the right gap. Ideal line is a tight hyzer.
Hole 2 is wide open and straightforward Worst hole on the course.
Hole 3 is a bomb. You must go up and over the hill in front of you and finish about 150ft from the center tree in the fairway. Ideally you want to get to the top of the hill and make your upshot for the 3. 4s are common.
Hole 4 is a big S-curve slightly uphill. The initial part of the fairway has a low ceiling and several larger trees. Straight ahead of you is the hyzer line for the short pin and a wall of small trees. The basket has a great backstop. of trees and a small steep hill.
Hole 5 is a short little hyzer with 2 low ceiling tight gaps you must hit. The basket is slightly down hill with a green that slopes downward away from the basket to the left.
Hole 6 is a gentle turnover shot up a steep uphill. the basket is in a clearing at the top of the hill. Thumbers/Tomahawks generally dont turnout well. It is a very tight line.
Hole 7 can fool you. The basket is long and to just to the right and downhill. From the tee if you got a huge sidearm then go for it. If your throwing BH then you ideally want to be about 50ft short of 8s tee. that will give you the clearest line at the upshot. The right side of the fairway is full of trees and rough. The left has a pine tree about 50ft off the tee and then it is wide open.
Hole 8 is a dangerous hole. Watch out for people on 9s tee. The basket is just behind 9s tees on the other side of the trees. Its another sidearm for a 2 or a big anhyzer for a possible 2 or easy 3. Not a big deal if you hyzer out left, wide open field. On the right are woods and some large trees. If you cut in early it can make things difficult.
Hole 9 is a classic short tunnel hyzer. I love to play these. Take a midrange with some late hook to it and put her straight down the gut. once past the tunnel you either want to hyzer out early or late to avoid the 2 guardian trees.
Cross to south side of parking lot for 10-18.
Hole 10 is a unique fairway. There are several large trees that provide many choices to take for your line. The main 2 gaps are the anhyzer/sidearm to the left or the hyzer with a big skip to the right. Straight ahead are some troublesome small trees and bushes that eat up discs and make pars difficult.
Hole 11 is tucked just inside the woods on the uphill slope. Run at the basket with a midrange or low power driver and get it to hyzer in hard just short of the basket. That will set up a easy deuce. You will only be punished for early hyzer outs.
Hole 12 is the most challenging hole on the course. From the tee its all about getting your shot straight down the tight tunnel. The fairway has a slight "bump" in the straight line that can really hurt you. Once down the tunnel you are faced with a grove of tall trees with 2 ideal gaps that lead into the gap before the green area. A sidearm or high anhyzer is ideal. Taking a 4 is rewarding.
Hole 13 is a downhill anhyzer to an island green. The road is played as OB. Take a run at the basket from the tee. Behind the basket on the other side of the road is a several small trees and bushes that act as a great backstop that leave you with a 30-40' putt.
Hole 14 is a long slightly downhill tunnel shot. About 360' down the tunnel it open up to a carved out clearing. Make a nice upshot to the basket about 50-60' left.
Hole 15 is a toughy. The basket is on top of the hill just before the down slope. There are numerous guardian trees. There are many ways to attack this hole but a straight hyzer past the pine trees on the left will leave you with many options to take to the basket. Careful not to go long as it is a long way down the hill after the basket and roll-a-ways are common.
Hole 16 is another tight tunnel that takes a sharp turn to the right uphill about 20-30' in. Sidearm it for an easy 2.
Hole 17 is a long dog leg left through a tunnel. Your goal from the tee is to put a straight hyzer down to the mulch on the left. If you get there its an wasy upshot through some large trees to the basket on a short steep upward slope. A difficult3.
Hole 18 is a fantastic finish and the most beautiful. You stand atop a hill looking through a gauntlet of large trees. Its straight and long downhill. Ideally you want to put your drive through the two skinny trees straight ahead just before the mulch ends. Depending on where you end up it is an easy upshot for the 3. If you have a cannon on you it is possible to have a long putt at it.
GO Play!

P.S. Do not eat at that Dairy Queen! They are awful! We waited 30+minutes and didn't even get our food or money back cause we didn't want to miss the second round. They had the rudest and laziest employees I've seen in a long time. It was like watching 3 chickens with their heads cut off and a giant ? mark for a head.
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juanbond
Experience: 33.1 years 119 played 2 reviews
4.00 star(s)

My New Home Course! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 30, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- Plenty of variety. Doglegs left, doglegs right, straight, tunnel, low canopy, moderate elevation, and even a couple open shots.

- Challenging but not brutal. Pro and advanced players will likely only find a couple holes/pins to be too easy. Beginners will be challenged the whole way, but not excessively punished by water or disc eating rough. You can lose discs here, but the woods aren't too brutal to search a bit.

- Dual pin placements (short/long) on every hole. Pins were switched to alternate placements in late June 2010. Since the course opened, they have kept the placements alternating between short and long on successive holes. Each pair of pin placements are quite complementary and require different shot shapes and sometimes change the hole lengths considerably.

- Beautifully manicured park. Always seems to be mowed nicely. Park staff do a ton of work here and are very friendly. Scorecards are available near the 1st tee.

- Excellent baskets and tee pads. The eighteen Chainstar baskets are just as new as the course, and perfectly installed. The pads were well brushed when poured, so they grip well even in heavy rain.

- Good signage. Tee signs are now present on every hole, with hole layout, both pin locations and distances, and a yellow screw indicating which pin is currently in place.

- Low traffic. I have yet to see this course truly crowded. The park sits in a small Wisconsin town, with almost nothing but small towns surrounding it. If you like the feeling of seclusion and natural beauty without a trace of car exhaust and city noise, this is the course for you.

- Many memorable holes. #6 is through a tight steep uphill tunnel out into a large mulched opening. #12 is through a long tunnel out into either a pin surrounded by a group of old large trees, or curling right downhill to a pin tucked between two bushy trees and thicker woods. #13 has its long placement downhill to an "island" green (road surrounding, not water) protected by woods and a few large trees. #15 starts downhill with a dogleg left under a low canopy, short pin is around/over two large pine trees, long pin back uphill through a cluster of trees with a fall-away green just behind it. #18 is an excellent finishing hole, from a well-elevated tee, through a semi-open wooded fairway with few medium trees, out into an opening with several large old trees and grass.

Cons:

- Mosquitoes can be somewhat bad in places (I've endured much worse). Definitely bring bug spray. The back nine is typically buggier than the front nine.

- Needs signs for a couple of between-hole walks. This has been improved between holes #15 and #16 with a new mulch path.

- Seems perfect for a second set of tees, I sincerely hope they eventually add some.

Other Thoughts:

With a beginner/recreational 9-hole course on site, this park is a perfect destination for any skill player. I play here at least once a week in leagues, and now call it my home course. The park has other amenities nearby: picnic benches, playgrounds, tennis courts, ball diamonds, and even a stocked ice cold pop machine between the 15th green and 16th tee.

Having now played all pin placements, this course is a solid 4 to me. The lush variety of shots required is the main plus for me. Without the dual pins, it's probably a 3.5 in my book. I can't think of any real serious cons, only some minor issues and conceivable improvements.

The fairway of hole #14 is adjacent to a county road that sees moderate traffic. The road is just 15-20 feet through some thin woods/brush lining the tunnel fairway. So, be careful if you happen to take a rough bounce into the road.
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TheWCG
Experience: 16 years 376 played 15 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Ouality.... 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 20, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course is now one of my new favorite courses!! This course was not "thrown together" by any means. It was VERY well designed and LOT of different shots are required here. Some big hucks, some finesse shots,some leftys, rightys, etc... There is also a decent amount of elevation too!!:)

Cons:

The only thing I can complain about here is the bugs. It's hard enough to concentrate on my shots with silence. And with bugs violently attacking me in my personal zone drove me nuts!! BRING HEAVY DUTY BUG SPRAY!!!

Other Thoughts:

This course was down right FUN to play. Some reviewers said the front 9 was a little on the easy side. I agree, it doesn't compare to the back 9 (10-18). I thought the course flow was awesome altogether! The front 9 is a good warm up for the back 9. They compliment each other very nicely. All in all, this course is a MUST play if your in the area or if you don't live too far. Or if your a weekend crusader. And Hole 18 was a fantastic finish to the course!! This place was done right.......:)
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Michler
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 31.9 years 247 played 35 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great course in a beautiful park! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 14, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Just played this course for the first time last week. I was very excited to see a course of this caliber in an area that is starved for a decent course. This course is in a very well manicured and very large public park.

The front 9 offers a wide variety of par 3's. There are 2 sets of pins on each hole, so the distances will vary, but for the most part the front side is the easier side. The front 9 is much more open (not wide open) allowing more room to work the disc on a variety of lines. You still have to earn your birdies. Terrain is great for throwing rollers.

Back 9 consists of several tunnel shots through the heavier woods. The rough can get nasty, so staying on the fairway is a must. There are a couple longer holes here that play as a par 4. Mistakes will cost you 1 or more strokes on any of these holes. You've got to hit your landing zones and keep the disc flat if you are going to get your 3's. The back 9 will definitely teach a player to throw the disc low and flat.

Overall, I love this course. I love the variety of hyzers and anhyzers, rollers, and tunnel shots. Its great fun. The cement tee pads are perfect for the competitive golfer. Flush with the ground and slightly roughed.

Cons:

A little more could be done with the first couple holes. They are the weakest on the course. Also, one of the holes on the backside plays down a gap about 200 feet and then 90 degrees up and right about 50 feet. Not a great hole as deuces would be very hard to come by, but its certainly not difficult to take a 3. There are a couple longer walks between holes, so grabbing a map is a good idea if its your first time.

Other Thoughts:

Love the course. Plan to play it as often as I can. Great for competitive golfers looking for a challenge. Casual golfers who are just looking for a walk in the park can play the easier, more open front 9, which conveniently ends back at the parking lot. Highly recommend.
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harr0140
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 15.4 years 1508 played 480 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Thank the Parks Guys!!!!! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 11, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

1) The parks guys that work in this park all gung ho. I am surprised they didn't want to keep building more holes. Perhaps some more land will be available for a few more holes and to help expand the red fox course. There seems to be enough land to make the red fox course twice as long and much safer than it is right now. I walked the property with the main designer before the pins and tee locations were finalized and within a week they were already prepping the tees, cutting down tons and tons of buckthorn, clearing around some basket locations and within about 6 weeks of my walk through the course was ready for its opening! Not all of the long positions were in as of right now (I don't think), unless under all those garbage cans were the sleeves. Regardless this whole operation from design to implementation should be the model for people pitching DG courses to their local municipalities. The designer declared the parks workers to be BY FAR THE MOST COOPERATIVE HARD WORKING PEOPLE he has ever had to deal with in implementing DG courses.

2) This park is absolutely beautiful. It is set on a diverse property with rolling terrain from wooded, wide open, and also the moderately wooded park like setting. It is ery clear that Kenosha county takes a lot of pride in thispark too because the amount of maintenance they are doing for the DG course as well as the rest of the park is clearly more than most other parks I have seen (especially compared to the recent changes (monthly mowing and obviously massive cutbacks) in park maintenance at the Milwaukee County Parks system).

3) This park as a whole has three levels of disc golf on 3 seperate 9 hole courses. It is clear they knew what they were doing when the decided to divide the 18 hole course into 2 nines and when added to the original red fox 9 there are three very different nine hole courses for abosolutely everyone to enjoy.

4) The installation of the teepads was well thoguht out. The excavation was done perfectly, the pads are large and trapezoidal which are my favorites. Then after the concrete was poured they brough in soil leveled things off and sodded the first strip around every pad ( that sits in turf areas). This was a great idea because the seed would have never made it and the whole area would just fill with weeds so now at least there will be good turf around the teepads.

5) Mulch was used very effectively to soften the ground, cover bare soil, and prevent erosion. With the amount of clearing they had to do for a few baskets I am sure they were able to just mulch all those trees up and lay the chips ont he ground. What great use of on site materials!

6) Awesome variety in distances on holes. Long pins are generally much longer than short pins. The range on distances goes from 173 up to 386 for the short pins and from 218 up to 520 for the long pins. What an awesome selection of holes to play and you are guaranteed to need all your shots in your bag!

7) Posts by every tee, massive trapezoidal concrete pads, garbage cans intermittantly through the course, new baskets with homemade # plates attached to the top of the baskets, dual pins, soda machine and bathrooms between #15 and #16, scorecards available for each 9 hole course with distances and course map on them, plenty of parking for a course fairly removed from the metro area. WHat more could you ask for . . . well a map of each hole at the teepad but thats it!

Cons:

1) #1 is a little bit goofy to me mainly because the shrubs that are on the left of the shor t pin are ornamentals (meaning shrubs I wouldnt want to get destroyed by discs). The long pin on #1 is a really tight (both side to side and up and down). It almost seems like a little more clearing should be done to create somewhat of a defined fairway. I don't want it to be too easy, just more clearly defined.

2) #2 would be a lot better if the tee was backed up to the woods near #1 shot pin. That is where the designer and I wanted to tuck it, so we moved the stake back there, but by the time the designer talked to the parks guys they had already begun to prep #2 tee. I can't fault them for their hard work or their ambition, so it isn't a huge deal, and most likely if dual tees go in anywhere, that will likely be the first one to go in because it makes it a much better hole.

3) Lots and lots of buckthorn on the property and I know the course is new so hopefully some of the woodlines get beaten down, or the parks guys go in and thin out the buckthorn so just the natives and noninvasive stuff defines the fairways because that stuff is nasty!

4) Mosquitos are horrible, whow ould have though with the course sitting on property with the Fox River running right through the park! Oh and dense woods, that is simply no place for mosquitos to be living! Yeah right. Bring your bug spray.

5) There are a few holes that will test your shot making, and a few of the shots are really goofy. I am not saying bad design, but shots that

Other Thoughts:

All in all one of my top 5 in Wisconsin. I put it ery similar to Silver Creek, but without the views of Lake Michigan, I'd have to say that hurt this course. It is a beautiful park, but it isn't really scenic. I rank the course on the course but the peripherals really adjust my impression. I thoroughly enjoyed playing this course especially since the first time I actually played it was when there were no teepads and no baskets, but just before the parks workers began their SOLID work. It also was before a lot of the buckthorn and brush ahd filled out for the spring, so it is a much different feel now versus the springtime. I just love it!!! And it is so close to a 4.5 in my book, probably closer to a 4.25 than anything though.


DO NOT READ IF YOU DON"T LIKE COURSE RECAPS!!!
A quick rundown of the holes with some shot making required, goofy shots, or some real challenge. #3 is a tough one up the hill and to the right, #4 is also a tough one that goes to the right slightly but you have to beware of turning it over too quickly or running it into the ground. #5 actually got an opening up on the right allowing a shot at the basket with a hyzer line. I didn't see that when I walked the property in the early spring. It is certainly risk reward, but trying to anny or flick one in to the left of this opening is also an option, I just am not sure which has less risk! #6 is a tough uphill tight s curve, but the parks guys went to town on the buckthorn at the top of the hill and if you can get through the gap and onto the wood chips you can have no more than a 50' putt to either basket. It is an interesting hole and much easier with how much they opened it up, but I still like it. #7 is a tough tight s curves with a much better line for sidearms. #8 long basket is tucked around a bend. #9 could be an easy 2 or a horrible 4 on any given day. Hit any little tree on either side and you could be in for some trouble, or throw right into the buckthorn and you might struggle to get the approach near the basket (especially the long). #10 is a really tough hole to decide what to throw. There is no easy way to get near either pin. Just pick one of the lines and throw it. I tried one to the right and one up the gut (trying to go right through the tiny opening in the woods where you can see the short pin). #12 is a tight long fairway, and the long will certainly force some 5's and 6's. #13 is just a cool hole with an island woodchipped green. It is surrounded by pavement which will be OB. Lay up short of the turnaround for a 40' putt attempt, or try and thread the needle all the way down to the 30' radius green. Its tough! #14 is another long tunnel shot, but the long is tucked around a big bend in the fairway. Either pin will be tough, but the long has a chance at a rollaway down a long narrow hill! #15 is a tough hole again. Look at the arrow directing you to try and stay left of the sign. #16 is a tough tight downhiller that you need to stay up the middle to assue your par chance. A birdie in the right position will be tough!
#17 is just another awesome hole. Straight through a long tunnel and about 300' out the fairway doglegs into a more open area (which again the parks guys cleared an amazing amount of trees to create this fairway. This hole felt as much like the North Carolina or Kentucky courses I have played and that is good! #18 is just another great hole. The parks guys cleared the entire fairway except for a few large trees that you need to try and navigate. Awesome downhiller threading through trees to a turfed area with large mature oaks. Sorry for the long read, but I really felt like recapping some of the holes. I thin this is one of my favorites in Wisconsin for sure. It has everything except water and massive ski slope elevation, but it does have everything else like rolling terrain, some uphills some downhills, some tight tunnels, lots of shot making required, and more importantly risk reward. Play safe and go up the middle with stable midranges or go for the glory and throw your drivers and try and send them right up the gut. Get off the fairway and you may often be throwing back to the fairway and unable to advance very far at all.
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