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Richmond Hill

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Kiknwitcooper
Experience: 18.1 years 65 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Diamond In The Rough 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 12, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

One of the best and toughest courses I have ever played. Tests how far you can throw with accuracy at this course. Fairly busy. Nice Disc Golfers that don't mind newcomers tagging along.

Cons:

Poison Ivy/Oak, so wear long pants or High Socks.

Other Thoughts:

Redesigned recently
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holmslice
Experience: 15.7 years 25 played 14 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 16, 2009 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Beautiful course situated in a standalone park dedicated to disc golf. First couple holes are decently wide open but the course quickly gets very tight. Signage is pretty helpful and usually correctly identifies which of the two pin locations is being used. Decent variety of holes between right and left and elevation change.

Cons:

Tee pads could use a bit of work. Concrete is a must and some are a bit hazardous ending in a shear drop off. A couple extra next tee signs would make this course a little easier to navigate for the first timer.

Other Thoughts:

Bring your hiking shoes for this course. There are not many holes where you have to go straight up or down hill, but most holes have a large down and up component to them. Course ends up wrapping back to the parking lot twice (once at the turn and at hole 14), so if you keep a couple extra drinks in the car they will be easily accessible. Course is pretty tight and technical, not much of a chance for big drives. I found myself often going with a mid-range off the tee pad for increased accuracy through the trees. Overall this a beautiful hike through the wooded hills of Asheville (we even found some wild blackberries on the side of the course) and should be fun for all.
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DSCJNKY
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.7 years 693 played 132 reviews
4.00 star(s)

It's either a Birdie, a Bogey or Worse! 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 31, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- It's a great course once you get past the initial seemingly unfairness of it. There are lots of great holes that test your skill set off the tee-pad and throughout... and several holes that test your strategic golf game. You'll need to bring your - BH, FH, Overhand, Short, Medium, Longish, Tight, Tighter, and Luck - game to Richmond Hill.
- There is a great DG Club that is responsible for the maintenance of the course. It's unbelievable how much work they have done to make this course...stairs, walking paths, bridges, retaining walls, tee-pads, and multiple benches on every hole. I've never seen a "mountain" course with more work done to it.
- Great use of elevation in terms of danger. However, I believe more could have been done with the shots themselves having a vertical elevation component. Vertical elevation only really comes into play when you mess up. The canyon holes are awesome, when you get across 'em.

Cons:

- unFAIRways... Some of the holes are slightly unfair in that you could throw a great shot and be snookered out of a reasonable 2nd shot (or) Are unfair in that a lucky shot is the best way to get there.
- There is a general lack of variety... tight gap tree hole after tight gap tree hole. The holes feature slight variations on distance or direction, but tight gap nonetheless. And, don't get me wrong... I like tight holes. I just like other types of holes too.
- I'm worried about erosion issues for the future.

Other Thoughts:

- At Richmond Hill... it is either a birdie, a bogey or worse. Seemingly, there are very few Pars. Although, now that I have played the course numerous times, the pars are there... but, this is how the holes generally play: You either lace a money drive for the biride opportunity (or) Hit a tree somewhere in route, get deflected to some terrible place, have no look at anything except more trees, and are forced to play for bogey or worse. Pars tend to be the result of missed birdie putts or excellent layups. A bogey free round at Richmond Hill is something to write home about.
- Bring your A game to Richmond Hill. This course will test you. If you can't hit gaps 15' wide at 30, 40, 60, 80, 150, etc+... feet away... you're in for a long day.
- And, bring your fairway plastic. Aviars, Leopards, Tee-birds... any disc you can throw straight through gaps and keep on the fairway.
- Really cool locals. I moved into town two months ago and feel as though I was readily accepted (although, we'll see if my review has an effect on that).
- Your GPS will take you to the national guard armory... thus the closest houses address is: 276 Richmond Hill Dr... then drive down the hill, 1/3 around the roundabout and down to the parking lot on the right.
- My Best Score: -4

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splatbaseball51
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.1 years 182 played 59 reviews
4.00 star(s)

You'll Come back again and again 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 7, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This course is designed perfectly for the most challenging mix of shots. You'll have to throw nearly every technical shot in your arsenal, but you won't get the chance to really bomb one out.

There are many elevation changes which create distance by themselves. There isn't any hole close to 500 ft, but what it they lack in horizontal distance they make up for in elevation.

There is a decent mix of short, medium and long holes due to alternate pin positions. Only one tee pad per hole, but up to 3 different pin positions. This allows the course to take on a whole new persona, but can intimidate some novice players in the long.

Navigation isn't an issue at all, as most holes are intuitively located. Many tee signs are constructed out of a stump, which is unique.

The difficulty of the course will keep the seasoned players coming back. You could stand to three or four putt holes if your disc takes a wrong bounce and rolls down the hill.

Cons:

Only two "open holes" with only a few trees at each. A truly great course will have a balanced mix of technical and open, in my opinion. Richmond hill lacks that balance but makes up for it in difficulty.

Play conservative if not confident in your shot due to the extreme thickness of the brush, especially in the summer. You'll easily lose a disc and at the very least get poison ivy.

Some shots do become repetitive as they cross the same valley multiple times. Don't get me wrong, they are still fun shots, but holes 10 and 14 feel like filler holes, just to get you to 11 and 15.

There isn't any water in play. This is a major drawback to a course of this caliber.

The tee pads, although well constructed and large, are made of turf. While great when dry, they will be extremely slick when wet. Play with care after/during a storm.

Other Thoughts:

A fully supportive community maintains many tournaments and doubles tourneys. Three days a week (weather permitting) a traveling pro shop is available on site for your disc needs.

An awesome course from start to finish and a must play for any serious disc golfer.
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nosajeel99
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 23 years 37 played 24 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Wonderful, yet Easy 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 21, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Richmond Hill is a great course. The fairways are nicely defined, it is easy to navigate, and it has a good mix of holes. This course is in the mountains, but much has been done on this course to make it easy to traverse. There are stairs, benches, and boardwalks in many places and this gives the course a very welcoming feel, one that shows care for navigation. It is really easy to find the next tee, despite there being only a few "Next Tee" signs. In my opinion, the best courses have a navigation scheme where you just know where you are going by the trails, and Richmond Hill does that. I was never lost.

The signs at the tees are unique and helpful, giving a general idea of how the hole is shaped and also mark which pin position the basket is in.

There is a ton of elevation change and it is noticeable on nearly every drive.

This park is clean and well manicured.

There were some memorable holes and greens on this course and a lot of the holes had their own unique flavor to them. There are two pin placements per hole and the pin placements are not extreme differences, but will make you take a slightly different approach to a hole.

Some memorable moments: #17's green is up a steep hill (in the long position); #9 has a tight drive through two sets of trees; #18's pin is placed precariously on the top of a hill with a steep slope on either side.

This course fits together nicely (a big deal in my opinion), looks good, plays well, and is a great example of what disc golf courses should strive for.

Cons:

My biggest gripe with this course is that it is, actually, pretty easy. Even with baskets in the long position, the holes are all fairly straightforward and simple. There are a lot of birdie-2 opportunities, and those that aren't 2s should be a 3, no problem.

One can see most of the baskets from the tee - even in the long position. There are no forced layups, no need for a second drive, no real planning the first drive beyond "get it close to the basket."

This is by no means a beginner course, though. There is a fair amount of challenge in navigating the trees on some holes, but in general, the fairways are more than ample. I would determine this to be an intermediate course. I feel that the pros and more advanced players will definitely want something more.

The tee pads were not as bad as some of the reviews made me think, but some are a bit short. (I actually liked the turf/grass idea.)

No water in play.

Some repetition in hole types, but again, not as bad as the other reviews made me think.

Other Thoughts:

Richmond Hill is a very good course and well worth a stop if you are anywhere near Asheville. I think the course as a whole is one of the best in terms of extras to help in walking the mountainous terrain and many courses can learn something from here. There are personal touches all over the place and I loved it. I had fun playing disc golf, though I do wish there was a little more of a challenge in the end.
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Mtn Huckin
Experience: 30.7 years 226 played 18 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Asheville at its Finest 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 27, 2008 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

A great example of Disc Golf in the Appalachians. Interesting Turf T Pads. Lots of Elevation and deep woods mean you got to be on it. Very Beautiful Course

Cons:

There is a deep valley that runs through this course and a few holes. The valley gets traversed (in the same way) a few too many times. No use of off camber shots that help define Mountain Golf. Just down and back up the same thing the same way.

Other Thoughts:

Great Course!!! Beautiful all the time and in the fall you will be blown away. Way to go Asheville....I also liked the original Richmond Hill to bad its gone, the two next to each other would have made an amazing destination.
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Dave242
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 30 years 394 played 276 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A- = Perfection!.....with a few blemishes 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 17, 2008 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

I do not have any course preview details to add so this is what I personally like and how this course stacks up against that:
1) Holes with good risk/reward -- B+ (Many great holes, but things seem a little too vanilla compared to the potential.)
2) Holes that have rewarding birdie opportunities -- A- (Many great holes, but too many "tweener" holes for me - birdies impossible, par boring, bogey a downer)
3) More wooded than open - lots of variety of shots required caused by hole shape and topography -- A- (Too many fairways are either too wide or do not have a shape that seemed to fit the flight path of a disc. I think opportunity was missed to make some really awe-inspiring holes based on the available terrain. Instead of awe-inspiring and unique, to many holes are merely good to great holes).
4) Natural beauty (Appalachian beauty preferred) and seclusion -- B+ (Seclusion level is awesome! Beauty however, is disappointing. Maybe it is unfair to compare to the old course, but that course had streams, lots of deciduous stands, ferns, etc. The new layout is all in pine forest - much more drab.)
5) Bonus amount for multi-shot holes with defined landing zones, good risk/reward and multiple options to play them -- NA

Cons:

My review sucks. I _really_ wish I could give an A+ to the course rather than the A- I gave. The area, the great folks of Asheville, the work involved to install the course, the unique Asheville touch of the tee signs, etc deserve that. Gotta be honest though.

Other Thoughts:

It's all about feeding the addiction, so I ranked this course subjectively based on my own "personal addiction factor". The grades above tell how well the course will draw me back to itself again and again and again. Since I have played a decent number of courses (115 18-hole, 50 9-hole as of early 2009), my hope is that players/explorers who have similar addiction tastes will find my ratings list helpful as they choose courses to play and explore.

I fully expect others with different tastes/philosophies to disagree with me....that's the fun of things here. See my profile for my rating philosophy.
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hooboy
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 16.6 years 52 played 24 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Real Workout - Difficult Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 17, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

In a beautiful setting in the mountains of western Carolina. Lots of elevation changes. Provides a great workout, although you will be trekking up and down all day. This is a difficult course that will challenge even the best players. Almost all holes are wooded (save 1 and 18), and EXTREMELY narrow. Cousre is not tremendously long, but plenty long given the narrowness of the fairways. Course is very well marked, and you will see all kinds of necessary improvements to the land, mostly stairs to help you get up and down. Really friendly locals. I was there on a Friday, and a vendor was set up in the parking lot selling all things DG. Close to I-240, good for a road trip stop.

Cons:

You don't really get any mountain vistas until 18 as you are in thick woods. Many of the holes seem to go back and forth over the same ravine. Multiple pin positions, but I could rarely tell from the tee which one we were playing. One tee per hole, covered in astroturf - slippery when wet. Tees not particularly long, so if you like a run up, you're in trouble. Parking lot vendor told me they have lots of poison ivy in the summer (its the course logo), although I had no problem in April. This is a very challenging course, not good for beginners, or if you're looking for an ego builder. I felt like I was throwing uphill, anhyzers (RHBH) all day - not an easy shot. No real bathrooms on site, only portables.

Other Thoughts:

This a very cool, but very difficult course. If any of you out there know East Roswell Park in Atlanta (my home course), think of Richmond Hill as ERP on steroids - longer, narrower, and much greater changes in elevation. I was exhausted after this round. I'm told the vendor is there every Tuesday and Friday. I bought a marker disc with their poison ivy logo.
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12StonesScott
Experience: 45 years 39 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Extremely well done 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 9, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

* Beautiful setting
* Very well developed and maintained (lots of wood mulch on fairways, logs defining fairways, log or ties as stairs in most places where needed, wooden stairs in a few particularly steep laces, etc.)
* Enough elevation change for three courses
* Alternative pin positions
* Mostly tight and wooded, but with fair flight paths on each hole
* Benches on each hole (you'll need 'em)
* Easy to navigate
* Excellent scorecards with plenty available at the kiosk
* Practice basket near parking area
* Generally friendly locals
* Good parking

Cons:

* One or two too many "straight across a ravine" holes -- a little more variety would be nice
* Single tee position and only one basket per hole means the course plays the same distance for everyone on any given day
* Tee boxes are decent (better than crushed stone or dirt) but seem like they'd be a bit slippery when wet; a few seem a little bit short
* Port-a-johns can be off-putting
* No water available on site; no convenience/grocery stores nearby

Other Thoughts:

I really enjoyed my round here -- beautiful spring day, lots of folks out but everyone was friendly. This course will definitely give you a workout, and will punish you if you don't play smart, but plays very fair. There are no extremely long open holes for pure distance guys, but that's not my game.
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kerplunk
Experience: 16.2 years 42 played 17 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Not THAT great 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 14, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Single use course, decent signs, lots of elevation change, multiple pin placements. Course seemed well maintained, and benches on every hole were cool (and necessary if you aren't in good shape). Stairs on the really steep hills.

Cons:

Only one tee pad per hole. No water hazards. No one hole really sticks out in my mind, except maybe the one where the pin was up on a plateau, that was pretty cool. Sometimes the hiking could be brutal. Some of the holes seemed almost identical; straight shot over a huge ravine that you then have to walk down and back up.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course, but I'm not sure I would rate it in the top ten in the country. I actually like Buckhorn better as far as NC courses go, I think it is more diverse and has more memorable holes.
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Mando
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.4 years 120 played 27 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jan 5, 1999 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

If you like challenging, extremely tight wooded holes with elevation changes, you will be hard pressed to trump this one.
A fantastic tract of mixed pine hardwood forest land for disc golf. There is a ravine that bisects the middle of the tract that you will throw over on 5,9,10 and 14.
These are the signature holes of the course. Great layout with nice flow. On #15, you will shoot down into the ravine and stay in it for 16 and 17. These were my favorite holes.
The amount of work put into this course is staggering...the steps alone had to be a huge undertaking. Very strong club support. Mountain biking trails in separate area of the park.

Cons:

One very minor thing is that you will not have the option of playing long or short...pin placements on a given day are the luck of the draw, with one set of T-pads.
Richmond Hill and Seven Oaks (Asheville and Nashville) are the two most crowded disc golf courses I've played.

Other Thoughts:

Asheville is a fun town to visit and Richmond Hill meshes perfectly with the vibe.
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DiscGolfCraig
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 19.9 years 602 played 545 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Fun & challenging course

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 22, 2008 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Richmond Hill is your classic hilly course. Plenty of elevation, rough terrain and trees present plenty of challenges.
- Course has great variety of holes - straight, doglegs, up & down, open & wooded holes.
- Great, descriptive tee signs. Very helpful on holes where you can't see the basket from the tee.
- Multiple basket locations present different looks on each hole. Some holes give tremendously different looks from long to short. #17 with the basket on hill in long vs on flat surface in shorts is perfect example.
- Course puts more emphasis on accuracy than distance. On many holes, getting off the fairway present real trouble. Better to throw short, but in the fairway.
- Locals put a lot of TLC into course. You'll see the truck selling discs at the course on many occasions. It has one of the largest, and best selection of discs you'll find anywhere.
- I love that the course has so many benches. You'll get a workout just walking the course, so having a chance to sit down on just about every hole is a huge plus.
- Park is for disc golf, and hiking/biking only. Always a major plus when DGers don't have to worry about other park goers.

Cons:

Basket positions aren't clear or consistent. Some are in longs, some in short locations. It'd be nicer if things were uniform (all in longs or shorts, etc) or if there was a sign at kiosk clearing explaining basket positions. Probably not a problem for locals, but an issue for out of towners.
- It'd be nice to see the holes crossing the ravine actually do a better job of making the ravine an obstacle. On most of these holes, you throw over the ravine to a basket essentially at the same level you're at standing on the tee. Seems like a couple holes have a missed opportunity to make a tougher layout.
- The grass/underbrush is really thick on some holes. Definitely needs a good trimming.
- No water fountains / drink machines. Make sure you bring your own water, especially on hot, summer days. Course also has no restrooms, port-a-jon only.

Other Thoughts:

Course takes great advantage of the terrain. Elevation changes and woods will penalize bad throws. Nothing worse than watching a disc roll downhill back at you or watching it sail away after a bad shot.
- This is one of the best risk/reward courses I've played. If you keep shots in the fairway, pars or better are aplenty.
- Got my third career ace at this course. Hole #2, dogleg right. The shot could have easily smacked a number of trees, perfectly emphasizing the risk/reward aspect of this course.
- I really enjoy the longer, par 4 holes on this course. They all do a good job of winding through the woods, with varying degrees of trees and elevation. They all require several good shots to get to the basket, but are all reachable even for shorter throwers.
- This is the signature course of the Asheville region. It's not far from I-40 & I-26. This is a no-doubt, must play course for anyone in the region. Play before and/or after hitting up some of the local breweries and make it a great day trip/weekend.
- You're in Asheville. What can be better? Life is good. Enjoy the great outdoors.
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