With recent construction on the left side of holes 3 & 4, there is now a white brick wall. Throwing over the wall is bad (one of the construction guys got mad and threw my brand new star leopard3 into the pond). I Recommend A slight anhyzer driver (gently) or a straight mid range for hole 3, the elevation makes the distance deceptive. For hole 4 the teepad will actually point at the wall, so you need to throw a little to the right (unless you want to try bouncing it off the wall....).