The Technique Chat Thread

[RoundWounds]

I ran this by Zenbot and he said to give it a shot.

Sometimes I want to ask a question but I don't feel it warrants a whole thread for itself. So, here's a thread where you could ask a question and get some answers, without clogging up the board. You can share what's been working for you lately, and new progress you've made as well.

What do you guys think? If you guys think it's a good idea, maybe we could get it stickied?

To start it off:

What's required in moving from fairway drivers (TL at around 350 ft.) to high speed drivers (Surge at 360 ft.)? Is it nose angle, snap?

 

[Stud Muffin]

What's required in moving from fairway drivers (TL at around 350 ft.) to high speed drivers (Surge at 360 ft.)? Is it nose angle, snap?

That is so odd, because I would throw my 175 Wraith in the 330's, but my Teebird at 280-300' max. Now with the champion blizzard plastic, the distance has widened, because I am getting out in the 370's at times now, but still 280-300' on my Teebird.

hmmm

 

[sidewinder22]

What's required in moving from fairway drivers (TL at around 350 ft.) to high speed drivers (Surge at 360 ft.)? Is it nose angle, snap?

Depends, likely nose angle, could be snap or grip slip.

 

[cfair]

What's required in moving from fairway drivers (TL at around 350 ft.) to high speed drivers (Surge at 360 ft.)? Is it nose angle, snap?

Nose angle was a big one for the me. The wider rims require more nose angle. I use to throw a wraith around 290' and then manage to get my XL out to 310' and I was confused. Because my nose angles were bad the wider rim was causing it to catch more height and die out sooner. Now I can throw a cyclone 320' on a low straight line. Now I just have to learn to throw a little higher.

So nose angle and arm speed.

 

[mjoyce]

What's required in moving from fairway drivers (TL at around 350 ft.) to high speed drivers (Surge at 360 ft.)? Is it nose angle, snap?

I'd like to know the same thing. I don't throw anything faster than a River/Teebird. I get them out around 300-350 with 350 being max.

I have 2 champ beasts (new mold) that I rarely throw because I have more control with the Teebird/River and I mostly play par 3 type courses.
The newer Beast I have is basically a meat hook for me (still fresh lots of flashing) the older one I have (given to me by a friend) is probably 7.5-8/10. I've had some pretty decent throws with the both but I don't really see the benefit of high speed driver from it as I typically throw the teebird the same distance give or take 10 feet.

What I want to know is what what would be a good in between disc to try, Valk? I'll take any suggestions. Or should I just not even bother. Is there a real benefit to the high speed stuff?

 

[coreyzd]

I throw teebirds in the 300-350 range and I carry a Valk as a distance driver. It doesn't really get me "more" distance than the teebirds, just easier distance because it's slightly understable and I can throw it on distance lines (e.g. Hyzer- flip).

 

[coreyzd]

Also I think this thread is a great idea!

I've always wondered how do you throw higher while maintaining a nose down trajectory? I'm starting to get muh better at keeping the nose down but a lot of my shots look like they'd get more distance if they were up higher.

 

[E_Rock25]

Also I think this thread is a great idea!

I've always wondered how do you throw higher while maintaining a nose down trajectory? I'm starting to get muh better at keeping the nose down but a lot of my shots look like they'd get more distance if they were up higher.

More snap/spin on the disc will hold the nose down at higher trajectory. For me it helps to find a high reference point to look at that is in line with the target, i.e. a high branch or telephone pole or something.

Where you the one asking about FH nose down?

 

[coreyzd]

Nah, I throw backhand (mostly).

I hate when the answer to a technique question is "more snap." I'm always hoping for an easy fix :/

 

[E_Rock25]

Nah, I throw backhand (mostly).

I hate when the answer to a technique question is "more snap." I'm always hoping for an easy fix :/

The easy fix is to get a really light understable slow disc and work on your form with hyzerfliping it. It should take much less effort to get it up to speed and you should be able to put more spin on it as well.

 

[coreyzd]

I guess I should've been a little more specific as my question was more in reference to midranges.

For the past week I've put down the fairway drivers and been working on throwing just the Buzzz. I'm trying to get better accuracy and smooth out some kinks in my form. I've been throwing them flat like a line drive and usually they either stall early from nose-up around 250ft, or when I get what appears to be a nose-down throw they only go about 200ft before they dig into the dirt without fading. I've had a few lucky throws in the 280 range but most of the time I can see the front of my disc as it flies...

 

[zenbot]

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[coreyzd]

The easy fix is to get a really light understable slow disc and work on your form with hyzerfliping it. It should take much less effort to get it up to speed and you should be able to put more spin on it as well.

I throw 170ish pro and star leopards in the 300-320 range. Would you recommend something lighter and less stable?

 

[E_Rock25]

I guess I should've been a little more specific as my question was more in reference to midranges.

For the past week I've put down the fairway drivers and been working on throwing just the Buzzz. I'm trying to get better accuracy and smooth out some kinks in my form. I've been throwing them flat like a line drive and usually they either stall early from nose-up around 250ft, or when I get what appears to be a nose-down throw they only go about 200ft before they dig into the dirt without fading. I've had a few lucky throws in the 280 range but most of the time I can see the front of my disc as it flies...

It is very hard to get nose down with a flat line. Get a Comet and Hyzerflip that B!T(H...

Or get a lighter Elite X Buzzz and hyzerflip it.

I just started throwing Comets to work on my form a few months ago and it has done wonders. I have had a few perfect throws that went out to 300' about 35' off the ground. I am a FH player but the concepts are the same.

 

[E_Rock25]

I throw 170ish pro and star leopards in the 300-320 range. Would you recommend something lighter and less stable?

Most definitely lighter if you really want to start bombing and getting more spin. Light disc's are very hard to throw properly at first but it will force you to impove your form. Smooth is far so don't try to over power light disc's, start throwing with only 60% power and work your way up. I would get a 150g Leo and give it a shot. I used a 148g diamond from lat64 for a long time as a form worker. I can even throw it into a moderate headwind now and not have it turn and burn.

 

[ReinZ_96]

i think i have to much snap for my arm speed...none of my discs will flip, my comet BARELY turns at all and it pretty beat, 7ish/10. How can i get more arm speed and not strong arm it? I'd like my understable discs to actually be understable.

 

[E_Rock25]

How far do you throw your comet now, and what weight and plastic is it?

 

[ReinZ_96]

its a 167 x comet and i can get out to about 260-270ish

 

[E_Rock25]

its a 167 x comet and i can get out to about 260-270ish

That seems really suspect to me man. That is decent D for a comet. Your just throwing it flat or are you throwing with hyzer?

I would think you are not getting enough spin/snap on the disc. That is what makes a disc turn for the most part.

Do the towel drill for arm speed. From your back swing it should be slow and gradually excelerate right to the hit.

 

[ReinZ_96]

That seems really suspect to me man. That is decent D for a comet. Your just throwing it flat or are you throwing with hyzer?

I would think you are not getting enough spin/snap on the disc. That is what makes a disc turn for the most part.

Do the towel drill for arm speed. From your back swing it should be slow and gradually excelerate right to the hit.

ive been told that more snap makes discs more high speed stable but less low speed stable, which makes sense bucuase the little bit of turn im getting is at the very end of the flight. and im releasing them relatively flat, 5-10 degrees of hyzer at the most.