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Spin vs Arm Speed = Similar Distance?
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Kodachrome
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if we are talking the exact same throwing motion then who someone throws with higher arm speed will generate more spin. if they don't, tell them to get some man hands because their drives will be slipping out early.
higher arm speed throws farther and generates more spin. spin is a byproduct which can be influenced . . . by moving your arm/hips/shoulders slower.
higher arm speed throws farther and generates more spin. spin is a byproduct which can be influenced . . . by moving your arm/hips/shoulders slower.
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Care to elaborate? I put tons of spin on my distance drives . . .
Nope. Player 1 will throw farther in almost all cases. Spin doesn't create any lift and doesn't help your disc stay in the air. All spin does is try to keep the disc flying with the same orientation.
Don't worry about spin; try to improve your speed. Throwing with a lot of speed will result in enough spin.
slowplastic
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Yeah this is an interesting thing as I find that when I have overdone throws at the max range of my at the time form, throws get less stable. Discs seem flippier. As I've found the next plateau, the increased arm speed with good form gave the discs more spin as well (I assume), and either way they would fly 30' further but with more stability than they had previously. For example if you can only throw ~300' properly with something like a River or Leopard, they will seem flippy past that point. But if you have an easy clean 350'+, they will have the same flight path at that range and feel stable enough. If the 300' smooth thrower who can torque something somewhat close to 350' tries that with the US fairway driver, they will flip them into a cut roller.
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If they are both throwing at the same wall . . .
Joking aside, it might be possible. Assuming that all other things about the two throws are the same (disc, angle of attack, launch angle, etc) and that the initial speeds aren't too dissimilar, the disc that spins at the higher rate should tend to turn and fade less. If the disc is stable enough to avoid turnover for both throws, then a slightly later and/or less pronounced fade may lead to a slightly longer distance.
But realistically, the disc with the fastest initial speed will always travel farther and it's probably going to have the higher spin rate anyway.
garublador
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It depends on what you mean by "arm speed." Are you talking about the initial speed of the disc?
It's absolutely possible to throw the same distance with different ratios of spin to speed.
As for spin vs. speed, there actually is some data on it:
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/dgr/forums/viewtopic.php?p=97136
It's absolutely possible to throw the same distance with different ratios of spin to speed.
As for spin vs. speed, there actually is some data on it:
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/dgr/forums/viewtopic.php?p=97136
TheBeardedFatGuy
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I believe spin can add distance in that it can make the disc remain stable and flat. I've never seen it theorized elsewhere, but I think fade happens because the left side of the disc (RHBH) is spinning forward into the wind, while the right side is spinning away from the oncoming air. This means there is more drag on the left side of the disc and, as the disc slows, the other forces, like gyroscopic precession, can't overpower that drag, so your disc gets pulled to the left. But, if it has tons of spin, this effect will be delayed because the gyroscopic stability overcomes the left-side drag and you fly forward longer.
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