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Thank you, Steve.
It actually happened - in an NT final - and some think it was not legal and some think it was. That alone makes it at least a little more than nothing.
Yeah, the distinction is not something that might ever be relevant to 99% of players and even less, played rounds. But...
You and others keep saying that. But I am pretty sure the rules say it is the same. I am open to be corrected on that.
The reason for the prohibition is to prevent going back and forth on it and in the process change the discs position due to imprecision.
If the lies are not the same, you...
I think a lot of the discussion is missing the key point.
Does marking your lie change your lie?
As far as I can tell, the rules say no, it is the same lie. The mini marks the same lie as the thrown disc.
The physical position of it changing notwithstanding.
No one is arguing that. Your lie is 30 cm behind your marker. The rules are pretty clear on that.
Go into the rules and find me the part that says marking your disc with a mini creates a new lie.
As far as I read them, they are saying pretty much the opposite.
" The position of a thrown disc...
You are completely missing the point. Marking the lie is not changing the lie. I think the rules are pretty clear on this. It might move a disc width in the real world. But as far as the rules go, that is the same lie.
According to the rules a mini marks the same lie as the disc. So THE lie is the same either way.
A situation where you are specifically allowed or required to establish a different lie is not equivalent.
That is the point of my wobbling on the matter. I read that as meaning that, as far as the rules go, either way of marking, marks they same lie - for all lie technical purposes.
A wobbling that is starting to tilt towards the side advocated here. And I would have to apply any such judicial...
But the rethrow has to be made from the same lie as the first, does it not? And as such, is not a "new" lie.
The crux of the matter is whether the lie marked by the disc is the same as the one as the one marked by a mini in front of said disc. As far as the rules go.
Can basically be boiled...
A somewhat interesting question came up during the final round at Ledgestone Insurance Open.
McCray, during one of his multiple multi throw sessions in that final, threw from his thrown disc on the first shots, and then marked and picked up his disc to throw it on the last one. Or at least, it...
Which can lead to a rather special situation. :)
Two player pass the mando and end up in the same spot. On the next throw, they both hit a tree and bounce back in front of the mando - op top of each other again. One player bounces back around the made side, and the other bounces back on the...