Re: peer pressure.
You write "In case you haven't noticed, I'm not the only one voting your review down. Sawyer is a 2.5 course, not Chili."
You've tried to make this point several times. Your point is that nobody should ever be allowed to differ from the crowd. And that your friends constitute...
Re improvements: you know, the new rubber tee mats at Ellison are kind of nice. I like them better than cement (obviously). But even though the rubber surface is great, I can still find something to complain about: they're too short. I bet everyone you know starts their run-up in the grass...
This forum should be a great place to discuss how different people see course design, so we can change our courses and make them better. If you're just going to use it to swear at people who disagree with you, you're not helping anybody. I'm guessing you personally know the course pro's at...
I would have guessed that Chili #11 was too open for you: it's pretty hard to find those trees on the left, and it's also pretty hard to go OB on the right except on the very windy days. I agree that it should be a par 5: about 3 300' drives, and 2 putts seems to be the PDGA standards. I think...
Re: fairways: it seems that for ball golf, fairways are about grass. But, for disc golf, fairways are about *air*. Does a space exist that you can visualize a well thrown disc by a competent player travelling without hitting anything? If such a space doesn't exist, then you don't have a fairway...
Based on the real estate available, it seems the churchville designer did about the best that could have been done: he mostly stayed away from the public areas and roads and used the foliage that was available. One thing about churchville is that the designer(s) seem to know it has weaknesses...
Never having played ball golf, i guess I can't identify with your description as a "ball golf style course". I don't know what that means.
Yes, I've played churchville, but not for a few years. I know it's been revised recently, and I haven't played the most recent incarnation. BUt you're...
Speaking of anhyzer, even though it's kind of easy and short, I like hole 11 at Ellison... it's hard to imagine a more carefully placed hole on that particular piece of real estate.
When we played Parma this summer, we didn't see any signs. Of course, being responsible adults, we printed the...
Hey great! We're talking disc golf instead of (just) bashing me. Of course, we're still doing some bashing. I'm sorry for having opinions different than yours.
I looked at your courses played, and saw idlewild on your wish list, so i assumed you hadn't played it. Sorry for the error. In any...
It's hard to follow you, since you never actually comment on what I write. Where did I say I like 350' holes with no obstacles? I like hole 3 at Ellison, for example. Short and tight, but even though it is tight, at least there *exists* a fairway. Same with hole 13 and 14. They reward a good...
Re: Blind holes
Really, just hole 5? At Chili from the tee, I can't see hole 1, hole 2 in some positions, hole 3, hole 4, hole 6 (which you mistakenly call hole 5), hole 10, hole 11, hole 12 (depending on the time of year), hole 15, or hole 16. Actually, I can't see hole 18 either, but my eyes...
While I appreciate why the course pro updated the tees last year to concrete, and I recognize that most people prefer them, I don't (and of course, I stated the reasons why I don't like them).
Also, I'm surprised that you never played with someone who lost a disc on hole 6. For myself, I've...
Regarding the long holes, when I write that they are "stupid", I mean that in the technical sense. Creating those hole required very little thought. If long is good, why don't we see more 10,000 foot holes? You obviously recognize that at some distance, the hole quality is degraded. We just seem...
Or, are you denying that the course is swampy? The alternative is that you are claiming that swampiness is in itself a good thing. That's just crazy.
I gather you like the hay bales and other artificial bunkers. For me, I've always thought they were cheesey. There are few if any other courses...
Chiefstang,
Well, it's true that the game was very different in the 70's and 80's. There were no baskets back then, and holes were usually shorter and often more technical. Also, we really only had those nasty Whamo's to throw. But, you don't make it very clear what you're angry about. Your...