Recent content by Telperion

I agree with you completely. That's honestly why I've been so frustrated in this thread, replies from people who think I disagree with them on certain things when I don't. If I feel the composite is worth the money, I don't care what profit anyone makes. If I feel the composite was dubiously...

It's a long thread now so things can get lost, I said this later in the thread: "If cost is low, the net can be divided one of 3 ways: payouts to players, extra profit to TD, or reduced entry fees so that there is a lower net in the first place." I wasn't bent about what I received in swag or...

Feeding back into the club for the benefit of everyone is great, I can get behind that. I would happily learn what goes into running a tournament, I just don't want to learn from people who support a hypothetical 300-350% retail markup valuation on event t-shirts. I'm not closed minded, it's...

For now the 3rd time this thread (I counted), I don't care about payouts, this isn't about payouts. I would play in tournaments with no payouts and no player pack, if the entry fee was in what I consider a reasonable range for the my perception of the value I'm receiving. If the value isn't...

I started out this thread saying that I didn't think there was malfeasance, just that I didn't understand. I never had an issue with this TD. I had an issue with what the TD's in this thread claimed was typical and reasonable. How could I possibly think there was an ethical breach when this...

I'm 100% with you on this. I always assume that the normal Gaussian distribution applies to most things in life, so I start out from a baseline believing I'm experiencing something typical and fair. If something seems to contradict that, I still give the benefit of the doubt unless I have a...

I'm fully aware of how petty it is to quote all of you to tag you, but as you can see from my comment above, it turns out that I was absolutely spot on about the actual value of the player pack. So... I was right, all along, to value the player pack like that. You're all more than welcome to...

Well, this blew up. I got clarification -- the course fee for this event was higher than typical due to the venue. The value of the player pack was $22. Not that anybody's counting, but $22 for a disc and a t-shirt roughly breaks down to the $16 disc MSRP I referred to + $6 t-shirt. Who am I...

Each price point is relevant to a different aspect of the broader discussion. It's a $5 shirt in the context of supply cost. It's an $8 shirt in in the context of market value. It's a $[14-16 ish] shirt in the context of MSRP/retail. $5 relevance: Discussing TD cost/profit $8 relevance...

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Because I have no interest in starting that kind of drama by naming anyone or anything. I've ordered runs of ~140 single color, athletic blend, custom graphic tees before. Every year actually for outdoor corporate team building. I know what that kind of pricing looks like because the PO's...

Again, I don't need or want everyone to agree with me. I do want people to disagree with what I'm actually saying, not what they erroneously think I'm saying. There's a difference between the two and it's significant. Also I quite literally said that I will be voting with my money. Yes, that's...

The entire business model of how the PDGA approaches the professional division is a different topic. Please, read, read my words. At $16 I called it retail value or MSRP. At $15 I called it market value. I choose the words I use, and I use the words I mean. Market value is not MSRP. Market...

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me. Truly, I'm fine with it. A few people in this thread have disagreed with me and you don't see me replying to them because I'm fine with disagreement. I'm get frustrated when someone seems incapable or unwilling to understand what I'm saying. Someone...

The PDGA Tour Standards clearly care about this because they have mandatory payout of net entry fees. The ethical issue is that, in my opinion, this TD exploited the technical definition of net entry fees by excessively inflating the actual value of the player pack, thus circumventing the PDGA's...