St. John, MO

Endicott Park

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wolfhaley
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Experience: 19.9 years 970 played 542 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 6, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

Endicott Park DGC is a classic STL course. It's been around for nearly 30 years and seems to being just as strong today as it ever was. There were numerous other groups out there on a warm Tuesday morning. It's not surprising though, this is a solid course.

The course starts a little ways away from the parking lot, just up the sidewalk and past the pavillion, but ends right next to it. The flow of the course is pretty straightforward for the most part. There are a few awkward transitions but nothing too goofy.

There's a good amount of elevation present here. Nothing too drastic but it feels like there's some on most of the holes. The course plays more standard park style. There are some spots the bring the woods into play a little bit though. There's not much for wide open holes. Almost every hole has at least a tree or two in play.

The baskets here are Gateway Titan Pro 24's, like at so many other courses around here. No complaints though. These are a bit on the older side but caught just fine. Multiple pin positions per hole but only one basket.

The tee signs are done well. Nice, large signs that feature a big hole map showing all possible pin positions, hole #, par and distances to all the different pin placements. There's also next tee arrows which were very helpful. I also like that they show other nearby tees, baskets and fairways. That helps to orient newer players. Another nice touch was that they drilled holes next to the different pin placements and attached a bolt next to the one that's in play. Love to see this.

There's a pretty fair balance of different shot shapes required here. Some bend left, some bend right, etc. There's a good mix of distances here ranging from around 230' up to about 430'.


Cons:

Hole 17 was a dumb hole. I was wondering why I couldn't find the basket. Turns out it's essentially on hole 18's fairway. The only way to reach the pin is to throw it up and over the treeline seperating the two fairways. This is just a bad design and is not safe at all.

The course probably gets real busy during peak hours. Probably best to play this one early if you're looking to avoid the larger crowds.

The course looks a little run down in places. Between some of the baskets, signs and erosion starting to take a little bit of a toll. Quite a bit a graffiti all throughout. The course is also right off the expressway so it's not the most serene course you're going to play at.

There's quite a bit of backtracking to the next tee toward the beginning section of the course. Not a major con, but it was still annoying, especially having to walk back up a hill you just threw down.



Other Thoughts:

This is your standard big city park course. You can tell that it gets tons of play by the worn down grass leading from basket to the next tee. And there's good reason for that, it's a fun course.

We played this one as the first out of four around this area today. I'd put this one second best out of the four, behind only Hudson Park and ahead of both White Birch and WAY ahead of Dungeant.

Is this one a must play course? No, it's not. But you probably won't be disappointed if you made a stop here. I'd recommend it, and I'd play this one again if I'm ever back down here. Good course.
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Tyler V
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Experience: 16.8 years 147 played 98 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A Classic Course and a Technical Test 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Nov 6, 2020 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Endicott is a technical 18 hole course in St. John, Missouri. It is one of the older courses in the area, built in 1996, just a year after Jefferson Barracks and Sioux Passage. While many other courses have since been added to the St. Louis area, Endicott has continued to be a popular spot for the local scene, and is a nice technical course for anyone wanting to test their skills with hitting lines.

Endicott is located just off of I-170, between I-70 and I-64 and not far from Lambert Airport. While access to this course is great overall, be mindful if playing around rush hour, as there are a few congestion points not far from this course. When turning off the highway going West on St. Charles Rock Rd., you will want to take the first right, which is Ridgeway/Endicott Ave., and then follow that road to the right. There are some restaurants close by if you need a quick bite to eat, and a Quicktrip that is easily accessible as well for any quick snacks or drink you may want.

Endicott Park includes a shelter, baseball field, basketball court, tennis court, and playground. The disc golf course is the main feature of the park, taking up more space than all of the other activities combined. The was historically a second baseball field that hole 14 bordered and arguably overlapped with, but the only evidence of its existence today is a single foul pole and the ground being flattened out.

The parking lot has two parking areas, neither of which are next to the start of the disc golf course. If you park in the lot next to the street, simply follow the path to the shelter, and hole 1 along with the course bulletin board will be on the opposite side. If you park in the lower lot next to the basketball/tennis court combo, there is also a path that will lead you to hole 1, and you will also be parked close to hole 18's pin. The shelter has bathrooms and a water fountain, though the bathrooms are often locked.

The start of the course is on the far side of the shelter, but on the opposite side of the playground from hole 1 is the practice basket. This is easy to miss, but what's nice about this practice basket is that they actually put bricks in the ground in 2 foot increments from the basket, from 10 feet to 40 feet. A lot of the bricks are faded and unreadable, but it's easy to figure it out from the ones that are readable. The practice area is mostly flat, so it's a nice opportunity to warm up before your round.

The bulletin board includes a course map and some information about leagues and the local St. Louis disc golf club. Most of the course is easy to navigate, but a couple of spots in the course may make it worth having a picture of the layout handy. Each hole has 1 concrete tee pad and 3 pin locations. All of the tees are 10 x 4 and are in great shape, and I don't recall having much trouble with grip in my time playing this course over the last decade or so. Some are starting to show some cracks, but are still a ways from needing repair.

The tee signs at Endicott provide pin locations and distances, a graphic showing the hole layout, and the location of the next tee. These signs are a huge step up from a decade ago, and are a welcome improvement to this course as well as others in the area. Attached or next to each of the 18 tee sign posts is a broom to clear tee pads of dirt or leaves.

The baskets are Gateway Titans, and are among the deepest baskets that you will find anywhere. These baskets are great at catching discs and keep them contained in the basket. A lot of the baskets have tape around the edges, I am assuming for glow rounds. Overall, the baskets are in great shape.

In addition to the usual equipment, this course has some great landscaping when it comes to stairs and other features. The upkeep on bridges over a creek, as well as the stairs on holes 7 and to 13, are in great shape and show some great care for this course. Hole 12's tee is especially nice, surrounded by brickwork and a stone sitting area behind the tee.

Endicott's design is among the most technically challenging in the St. Louis area. Each hole on this course provides different degrees of foliage, elevation, and distance. While there's only 1 hole on this course that let's you air a true drive out in the open, there's enough distance on this course to require a mix of midrange and driver shots off different tees.

There's a good amount of variety on this course in terms of how open the holes are, and how forgiving they are to errant throws. Hole 14 is going to be you opportunity to drive in the open, with the old baseball diamond allowing you to play a safe drive that curves around the right side of the fairway. Holes 4, 5 provide open shots with a few trees to avoid. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Hole 12 is a tunneled S shot that is as far as 428 feet, and can be very unforgiving of kicks off of trees or branches that run all along the fairway.

In between the extremes of the course are plenty of holes that range between clear fairways lined with brush like holes 6 and 13, to holes like 1 and 2 that don't have brush, but plenty of trees between you and the pin. In addition to foliage, this course has a good amount of elevation variety. You have some holes like 6 and 12 that are flat, but also have plenty of holes that go uphill (like 2, 4, and 9) and downhill (like 3, 5, and 18).

This course has plenty of variety to keep it fresh from hole to hole - forehand dominant and backhand dominant players will both find holes that benefit them at Endicott. As for signature holes, the C placements of 7 and 12 will always be in the running, as these are challenging holes with plenty of obstacles and brush to contend with. Hole 7's C placement ends with a near blind shot up a hill, making a birdie near impossible. These are among the hardest par 3s in the St. Louis region. In addition to these holes, I feel that hole 3 is among the most fun on the course. A large tree stands right in front of the teepad, requiring a hyzer forehand or backhand downhill. Both are good options, but plenty of trees along and in the fairway can make for a challenging line to hit.

Cons:

While the tee signs are mostly great, a notable issue is the lack of a permanent way to show which pin placement is in use. About half of the tee signs have a clip of some sort showing what pin is in use, but the other half of the course has nothing. While you can see the pin and figure out which placement is in use from the teepad, some holes have blind shots and pin placements that are very different from one another. This may require either a blind shot or walking up the fairway to find the pin that is in use.

While the tee signs are by no means unreadable, some are starting to show their age with either dents or peeling lamination.

Overall, the borders of the fairways on this course are clearly defined and don't get too close to one another, holes 5 and 6 run pretty close to the backyards of neighboring houses. Hole 6 has some pins that come especially close to a yard, so be careful with your drives and approaches.

I'm aware that this is a personal problem, but I always seem to be able to avoid getting poison ivy while golfing except for when I play this course. Keep an eye out if you go off into the brush.

Other Thoughts:

This course is firmly an intermediate course. Professional plays will likely not have too much trouble here, and beginning players will likely find a lot of these holes a hard test of their accuracy. This course feels relentless, and a par will feel very rewarding to a lot of players.

This is a classic St. Louis disc golf stop, and is a popular course among the local players. You will never have this course to yourself, and if you are playing your first round here, other players will be happy to answer any questions you have. This course has managed to retain its popularity over the years as more courses get installed around town, and that popularity is well earned. This course feels different than a lot of the other courses in the area, and is a great test of your technical skills.

You have many options in the St. Louis area for disc golf. If you choose Endicott for your round, you won't be disappointed.
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MrFrosty
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Experience: 31 years 764 played 386 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A ST Louis Must Play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 27, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

Not the easiest park to find once you turn into the neighborhood , but it IS just minutes off the highway . Endicott Park has many uses , but the park Features it's disc golf course . As soon as you park here , you will be stumped as to where the first hole is . You will have to walk downhill towards what looks like a bathroom ( It is ) and back uphill to the middle of the park . A Kiosk is there close to the first hole , which you will throw the opposite way from where you parked . The Kiosk had a mp , but you want to print one if you are an out of towner . The course normally gets a lot of play , especially from the locals , who are friendly and will point you in the right direction if you ask . The morning I played ( Memorial Day ) , there were probably close to 40 people on the course at the same time . The tee pads are extra wide and long and are grippy and pretty flush with the ground . Very good since it is an older course ( 1996 ) . The baskets are Gateway Titans and are heavy chained , deep basket . Great signage with map of the hole , possible positions of the basket , and NEXT tee arrows . The course also features enough elevation to make it interesting , and a creek which barely comes into play on a few holes . The bathrooms and water fountain are located next to hole one and you will also come around close to it at #9 . Another nice amenity is that there are Benches and trash cans at all the tee pads . A very big plus since this course has so much play . It is an intermediate level course, The pros will overpower this course , but this will be a challenge for everyone else . Basket placement is key . Some great spots for risk-reward drives to baskets the are nestled in bushes or along tree lines in the woods . Only a couple of bomber holes , so the course favors the technical player . Even though the park has a lot to offer in the way of different activities , you won't likely have to share the course with the non disc golfers . Plan to be here a while . You may have to sit behind groups stacked up on the course . It only means the course is as good as advertised . Signature hole : either #7 , with a tree-bush line down the left and a tight line of trees &brush on the left , to a landing area slightly right , guarded by medium sized trees , or #17 . Slight uphill to the pin , tucked into large bushes indie and on the left today ( You want to walk up the fairway to see the pin position on this one . I threw for the wrong opening and it cost me a stroke )

Cons:

Not a lot of negatives , in my opinion . The start may be confusing for out of towners since you park at the edge of Endicott , then take a good walk to the middle of it to start . No pro tees , just one per hole ( Okay with me ) . Navigation can be confusing for first timers . PRINT A MAP . Even though this course is well taken care of , you can still lose a disc in some of the rough off the fairways . Course can get muddy .

Other Thoughts:

This was the best course I played in the Saint Louis area by far , and the volume of disc golfers on the course when I played solidified my opinion . I couldn't decide what score to give this course , but the locals here decided it for me . This is a guarantee must-play if you are near St Louis . If you only have time for one course while here , Endicott is it . My Recommendation : If anywhere close to Saint Louis - PLAY IT !!!!
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BCTB
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
4.50 star(s)

This is one of my favorite courses that is pretty close to me. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 14, 2019 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

I really like the atmosphere. It has a great lay out. Not overly wooded but plenty of trees and hills to make it a lot of fun.

Cons:

None
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Dynamic_83
Experience: 16 played 6 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Challenging course for intermediate players 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 13, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice use of the landTight,challenging holes mixed with open holesGreat way to work on technical game

Cons:

Can be challenging for beginners or recreational playersSome holes are poorly designed

Other Thoughts:

Played this course as part of the st louis open and while it was a mowed and nice looking park I didnt find it very accessible to an beginner or someone who casually likes to play disc golf as it seems to be geared more toward more professional players.
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ajbova
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 18 years 112 played 94 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Solid Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 8, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course is an intermediate level course set in a multi use park right off the highway. It would be very challenging for beginners but would also help to improve their game.

Baskets - 18 Gateway Titan baskets. These were very grippy and had deep baskets. I had no issues with spit outs. There is also a practice basket on the East side of the pavilion somewhat close to hole one.

Tees - 1 very large concrete tee per hole. They were also grippy and had no issues with slipping.

Signs - Each tee sign had a map, distances for each pin, par, location for each pin, sponsors, and an arrow pointing to the next sign. There was also a 2 sided billboard at start of hole 1 listing info on the sport, events, and other various disc golf information.

Variety - This course was a great mix of hilly (both uphill and downhill) and open as well as short and technical. Every hole had some sort of obstacle. The park was filled with mature trees. Although I would not consider it a true water hazard, there was a small creek running alongside holes 3, 4, 6, and 7 but was less than a foot deep when I played. Trees and elevation caused blind shots on holes 4, 7, 8, 11, 15, and 17. No true bomber holes but this course will still challenge you. 8 and 12 were tunnel shots.

Benches/Tables and trash cans at every tee.

Easy to save par on most holes (can be a con for some).

Water fountain and bathroom on site.

Playground on site (for children if you bring them).

Nearby options for food and drink. Gas station right off highway. Fast Food within a short drive.

Cons:

Long walk from parking lot to hole 1. Have to walk near basket of 18 which can be dangerous.

Only 1 tee per hole. Yes having multiple pin positions helps to keep the course different every time, alternate tees would be a nice addition to this course. Would take it up a notch.

Having some sort of listing showing which basket location was being used would make it more playable for first timers.

Poison ivy around some of the trees and in the woods.

Navigation was tricky at first. Next hole arrows would be amazing. After 5, the closest tee is 7. After 7, I walked down a path and found the tee for 12. Had to back track to find 8. Some of the tees were not very close to the previous basket location. Long walks from 2 to 3, 4 to 5, 5 to 6, 8 to 9, and 14 to 15. Like I said, next hole arrows would improve flow.

Baskets were not always easy to spot since they are solid grey. Blended in with the trees behind them.

Due to being close to highway, cars can be heard on 11-18. Not necessarily a peaceful noise nor a true con. Some prefer courses that are quiet.

Bordering fairways can be dangerous.

Glass around basket for 4.

Other Thoughts:

I only had time for one course on my trip to Saint Louis. This one was the highest rated as well as closest to my hotel. I was not disappointed. I am from Indianapolis (very flat) so I tend to enjoy any course with hills. I would like to have rated this course a 3.75 but that was not an option. It is better than the courses in Indy where I feel are a 3.5 so I gave it a 4.

This course made the most of the land it has. Added tees, better way to list the pin position, and next hole arrows would take this course up a notch. I would like to try some of the other courses in the area but would definitely come back if I had the time to play it.
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The Valkyrie Kid
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 45.8 years 1563 played 1507 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Nice, Technical Challenging Course! 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 19, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Endicott Park is a fairly good sized county park with some ideal terrain for disc golf. Much of the course is set on nicely rolling hills. There is a kiosk at the beginning with the usual tournament and league information. There is a practice basket here too. The tee pads are concrete and lengthy. The tee signs are excellent and provide all the information you need. There are three baskets placements for each hole. They are the Red A's. The Yellow B's and the C's which are the whites. They are now indicated by a bolt in the signs. The course is not insanely long but probably makes up for average distances with some very tight and technical holes. The baskets are Gateway Titans, purchased in 2005. They're looking a little worn now and I found them to be hard to spot in the brush. Some baskets have a little concrete block pointing to the next tee. I think some of these arrows were overgrown and hidden under some vegetation.

I liked # 7 as the signature hole here. It's 445' in the C position and very tight off the tee. But what really excited me about this hole was the basket placment. It was set up a 20' high embankment making for a very interesting approach shot.
I might like 18 just as much. From the C position, it's 390' down a slight hill and then turns right into a grove of trees. It's just a very pretty hole to finish on.

Cons:

I had some navigational issues here. Somehow, after playing 12, I missed something and never played 13 & 14.
The course is a little too technical for me to really love.
The # 5 tee sign is faded and impossible to read.

Other Thoughts:

Sometime during my round, there was this really loud roaring noise. I mean, rock your world loud. It was from a plane getting ready to take off. It sounded like it was coming from the next hole. I assume Endicott is close to the airport. I might need earplugs here.

I like this course but didn't love it. If I lived in St.Louis, it would be on my regular playing circuit. I think I would grow fonder of it with more rounds played.
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jvbh792
Experience: 8.1 years 16 played 12 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 9, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Moderately technical course that requires many different techniques off the tees. Several different types of holes too.
Great location! Very close to the majority of St. Louis.

Cons:

No big open holes. No huge elevation holes.

Other Thoughts:

Grass gets long before it gets cut and I haven't figured out how often or when they cut it. It gets pretty buggy if the grass hasn't been cut though.
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Wise Fool
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.1 years 125 played 116 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Awesome Park Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 13, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Baskets are Gateway Titans that are in good shape and catch well
-Nice concrete tee-pads
-Multiple pin positions on each hole help to add variety to the holes if you play the course a lot.
-Tee-signs are in very good shape. They show a good layout of each hole, each pin-position, the distance to each position, and there is a screw on each tee-pad marking what pin-placement the basket currently is in.
-Good use of the trees to make some tight wooded fairways and then some more wide-open holes. The course has a good variety of more open holes and tightly wooded holes.
-Course has a lot of good elevation change incorporated. The front nine especially makes really good use of the elevation in the park.
-The foliage on the course helps to add risk/reward and punishment for a bad shot.
-This course has some really fun pin-positions. My favorite pin-position was hole 7, where the basket was on a small wooden plateau. There were also quite a few tucked into alcoves in the trees.
-The course requires a pretty good variety of different shots, rather than one specific course, which is nice.

Cons:

-Lots of erosion on this course. It gets very muddy after the rain and it was quite slippery.
-Hole 14 plays a little too close to the baseball field for my liking.
-A couple of navigational issues. After the basket for 7 there was a well-worn path that ran to tee 12 rather than hole 8. On hole 15 I ended up at the basket first rather than the tee-pad. Also some of the tee-pads are really close to each other so it can sometimes be hard to know which tee-pad is next.
-Some baskets are hard to spot at they blend in with the foliage well.
-Shorter than some of the other courses in the area. The longest hole I saw was under 500 feet. The distances on the course start to feel a little repetitive. This course could definitely use 1 or 2 longer holes.
-Some neighboring backyards come into play on holes 5+6.
-Some of the park users seemed unaware of the course and there could be conflicts with other park users.
-A bit of a long walk back to the parking lot from Hole 18.
-Some of the holes play a little close to each other

Other Thoughts:

Overall, this was a really fun course with a lot of variety and good hole design. There are a couple flaws, but overall if you are in the St. Louis area make sure you play this course.
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brekko
Experience: 16.5 years 51 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Enjoyable Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 26, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great course layout, good signage and good use of the existing land, there is a good effort to avoid holes overlapping on any of the throws but still utilize the land efficiently.

I was forced to throw each type of shot in my bag at various times, flicks, long anhyzers, low ceilings, you name it.

Almost all the baskets seemed fairly placed, where a perfect tee shot would give you a chance at birdie, there were identifiable paths and fairways on every hole.

All concrete pads oriented properly make for enjoyable tee shots on almost every hole.

Cons:

It seemed like a common theme in most of the St Louis area courses to use the heavy duty Gateway Titan baskets, but I just dislike the feel of putting into the really heavy chains and the super deep baskets, but this isn't a knock on the course specifically.

Other Thoughts:

The course could use a few longer holes, there were only 2 holes I really uncorked drives on, other than that it's a lot of placement and you can score pretty well.
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discdanny
Experience: 10.8 years 37 played 17 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Endi 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 17, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Endi offers a wide variety of shots for everyone out there. For the most part I would consider endicott to be more of a technical course, though there are a few opportunities to air your arm out a bit. There are quite a few birdie-able hole out there however, if you get off of the fairway at all on some.. you are scrambling for your bogey..Endicott it an older park so.. the woods are made up of very large matured trees.

Added Pros include: Concrete Tee pads, 3/4 pin locations, trash cans, bathrooms, full electric pavilions, practice basket, metal tee signs, park benches etc etc.

Cons:

- doesnt loop
-sometimes crowded.. One of STL's most popular courses (not necessarily a bad thing)
-sometimes there are family reunions, bbq's etc at the pavilion that can get a bit loud

Other Thoughts:

Thank you Dave Mac for designing this one all those years ago!! One of my favorite courses though it kills me all of the time
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Golden Tuna
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 23.1 years 185 played 31 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Technical Juggernaut 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 8, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Technical - Challenging - Great Variety of Shots - Elevation Changes - Mental Test - Concrete Tee Pads - Good Baskets - Water Fountains - Trash Cans - Restrooms - Gas Station at Park Entrance - Easy to get to

Endicott is a very challenging course with a lot of technical shots. There are very few (if any) "gimmie holes" even with pins in their shortest positions. Please do no be swayed by the inaccurate review below. Each hole has its own set of basket placements and none of them are shared by other holes. Some of the furthest placements can get close to the next tee pads, but I would never say you're in any sort of danger of being hit.
The holes are spread through trees that create very narrow fairways. Some of them are cut through the woods and only provide a 30' wide fairway. I'll say it again, this is a very technical course and not for the faint of heart. You're need to bring accuracy and patience to shoot well at Endicott. That said, playing Endicott on a regular basis will absolutely make you a better disc golfer. The course amenities are also pretty good with concrete tee pads, Mach 3 baskets, restrooms, water fountains, trash cans and retaining walls and steps where there are hills. Also, there is a Quick Trip (the Wal-Mart of gas stations) at the entrance of the park, so you can stop for anything you need or run there between rounds if you need anything. Endicott is also right off Interstate 170 and only minutes from highway 70 and the airport so it is very easy to get to from just about any part of town.

Cons:

Parking - Graffiti - Corwded at times

Due to the location of the course in the park, there isn't really any good place to park near the course. The "disc golf" parking lot is at the end of hole 18, so you can't really run to the car between the front and back without a little hike. This isn't really a problem, because you can always re-fill your water bottle at the drinking fountain by hole 1, which is at the top of hole 9.
There seems to be a lot of graffiti on the course, especially on picnic tables at secluded/wooded tee pads. Unfortunately, this is not from outside sources, but rather from idiotic disc golfers that sit at these tables to "chill" and draw stupid shit on the tables that make us all look like idiots. Its not a "con" of the course, but does annoy me to see this crap at what is otherwise a very clean, well-maintained park/course.
Endicott can be crowded at times, but there were only a handful of people playing there this Sunday afternoon, so its not always packed, like some other courses are.


Other Thoughts:

If you're visiting St. Louis, this is a must play. The challenge with have you thinking and re-thinking almost every shot. The tight fairways will get in your head and challenge even the most accurate players. There is a good reason we have the Final 9 at Endicott every year for the St. louis Open A-Tier
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labrat
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Not impressed 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 24, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good signage, trashcans, bathrooms, teepads

Cons:

Too crowded, layout is horrible/dangerous.

Other Thoughts:

After having this course talked up to me by several people, I decided to to takeoff work during midweek to play. Even at 2pm on a Tues there were about 20 other people playing this course. I had a group right behind me and two in front of me. Not pleasant.

I don't understand the course layout. This park does not have the room for 18 holes, so most of them are crowded together and have you throwing very near, or across other holes. With the crowds, this becomes a problem. Some of the holes have up to six alternate basket placements and as best as I could tell, the alternate basket placements were also the easier baskets for other holes. This means as you are throwing at a basket, you may have someone from another tee, in a totally different direction throwing at the same basket. I had this happen a couple of times while playing and there is nothing more annoying than having to dodge someone else's drive because they are playing the same basket from a different tee pad.

As far as the bells and whistles; nice tee pads, good signage, trashcans and a well maintained course this one has it. As for course layout, this is one of the poorest courses I have ever played. I much prefer an open course without people holding me up or crawling over the top of me while I am trying to play.Being so crowded and having each hole being so close together, it makes for a dangerous course.

If socializing with other frisbee golfers is more important than an interesting, safe course layout this may be for you. Personally, I will not be back. There are several other courses in this area that are light years ahead of this one.
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stach23
Experience: 13.1 years 27 played 7 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Fun, but far too technical. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 16, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good shot selection, good use of the land, elevation changes, good course flow.

Cons:

Too technical, too many trees.

Other Thoughts:

I can appreciate a good, hard course to play, but this course is too technical sometimes to the point of being ridiculous. I like having shots where you have to wedge a disc in between trees, but not on every hole. A course can still be challenging with open fairways and not trees in your face on the teepad. That being said, it is fun. Good variety of shots, distances, and elevation. Not long enough to really throw some bombs, but long enough to wear on you after 36 holes. I like it, and I'll play it again, but I much prefer Sioux Passage if I'm in St. Louis.
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harr0140
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Experience: 15.2 years 1508 played 475 reviews
3.50 star(s)

It's the Endicott of the world as we know it 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 25, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

1) Nice signs with Hole #, Par, Distance, Next Tee arrows. Some of the signs had paper clips to indicate which pin is being used but it was inconsistently done. Perhaps people have taken the clips off of some holes and left others.
2) Next tee arrows on little concrete pieces near the baskets. These are inconsistent but they will help more than they will hurt.
3) Multiple pins available on this course which is an awesome feature. The holes can change dramatically.
4) Excellent use of the elevation change on this course. There are some extreme rises and falls, but overall there are hardly any level holes. Basically elevation change is an integral feature of this courses design.
5) The turf seems to be in decent shape. Most of the fairways are in good shape so any of your drives that hit an early tree you will have decent footing.
6) There are some benches available on the course. Feel free to have a seat and enjoy the view.
7) The two retaining walls I encountered seemed to have been done professionally. This is something that rarely happens on disc golf courses. Usually some volunteer just offers up their time and they build a wall . . . too often those will fail due to improper procedures. This is all part of raising the bar in disc golf course design, installation, and maintenance. I am all for things being done properly which makes them sustainable.
8) Practice basket available in between #1 and #18. I didn't see the basket because I took a shortcut across a field, but when I was on #9 I heard people practice putting and saw where the basket was located.
9) Strong bag hooks located on some of the tee sign posts. While I wouldn't use these because my bag weighs so much, I can see their value on the wet days .
10) Excellent distance variation here with some holes playing in the 200's, 300's, and even 400's. There are a lot of different shots and discs needed on this awesome variety so bring everything you have got.
11) Beginner friendly on most holes because it is only moderately wooded. Sure there are a couple tougher holes but that is ok to expose people to a little bit of everything.
12) Foliage density is a key design feature here also with some mildly wooded, to some moderately wooded, to those few tight dense holes. This type of variety can only be considered a positive.
13) Nice big concrete tee-pads. I always appreciate a full run-up on concrete and good solid area for my plant foot.
14) While this course is in a typical park setting, there are really very few places where the interaction with other park users could be negative.
15) Plenty of garbage cans available on this course.
16) Very nice park with tennis, baseball, playgrounds, bathrooms, a pavilion, etc etc etc . . . a typical city or county park . . . but it looks to be well maintained.
17) A river/drainage swale is used as an integral feature on half a dozen holes. Skips or roll-a-ways can lead to difficult shots in this drainage swale filled with underbrush.
18) Gateway Titan baskets are in good shape. They seem to catch a little more narrow than other manufacturers baskets which I do not like (because it means missed putts). However if you hit the right spot they catch just fine. The 24 chains are helpful for that if you hit the sweet spot.

Cons:

1) Pin indicating system was inconsistently used. I am not sure if maybe someone came with a paper clip to mark a specific hole or two, but I sure wish they all were indicated if not for visual identification of the baskets . . . for the distance. I am a travelling disc golfer who plays many courses only once. The best courses will no create frustration due to lack of info for non-locals and first timers.
2) There are some areas of wear which are due to compaction and lead to erosion. I think the standard for disc golf could be to put in a 10' diameter circle of mulch around every tee. It will help with compaction and thus erosion. It will look better than worn out turf. It will really improve the image of disc golf when there are no areas of no turf/mud.
3) The most egregious areas of conflict with other park users would be around #18 tee and the sidewalk towards the practice basket . . . and also when the course plays across the outfield of a baseball field.
4) Hole #5 and #6 are a little goofy. The basket I could see from #5 tee was actually #6's basket. Fortunately for me . . . I cannot throw that far so I ended up only 25' short of the #5 basket even though I was trying to reach the further one. Then #6 tee is tucked way back to the right. I would say that #6 fairway is in danger of tee shots on #5 depending on the basket location.
5) The neighborhood looks to be a tad bit sketchy. I didn't have any problems but it looks like you might want to be careful with your vehicle and stuff inside.
6) The homes along # and #6 look to be in play with some really bad shots . . . Fortunately I threw towards #6 on #5 or my disc might have been further over to the left. I imagine plenty of discs end up in their yard . . . I wonder how many get retrieved.
7) There are a couple of holes that do run parallel to others and on a slope so it is possible to end up in the wrong fairway.
8) I did notice one thing with the Gateway baskets . . . I feel like the way they attached the chains could have been done better. Basically they attached the chains with a weld of the last chain link directly to the basket framework. The problem with this is that the chains always seem to settle on the inner part of the welded chain link. If they settled on the outer edge of that chain link the basket would effectively be 1-2" wider at the top. This might be the difference I was noticing. I am sending Dave a message right now to see if this is something they have experimented with or possibly corrected.

Other Thoughts:

Another solid St. Louis course. I had to choose this one because of proximity and I am glad I made it here. I had already played the cave courses as well as Jefferson Barracks. This is a decent design and it is fun with a little bit of challenge. It is also beginner friendly so it gets knocked up because of that aspect. It is in good shape (for the most part). There are a few safety and navigation issues so it settles in as a solid 3.5 disc course for me. It could be better with some better signage and a little bit more maintenance. Jefferson Barracks just seemed to be in better shape overall and the elevation was more dramatic there too. It just seemed like a cleaner course. Either way I would return to either.
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birdman101
Experience: 14.6 years 59 played 24 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Endicott 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 8, 2012 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course plays through a county park, with several other amenities right with it, but the course is for the most part off on its own.

It is an 18 hole course with 3 pin placements on each hole to change it up from time to time(I can't attest to how often they get moved, but at other courses in the area some get moved weekly)

Concrete tees are in great shape and perfect size.

In the two rounds I played I used 12 of the 14 discs in my bag so it requires a variety of different shots.

The front 9 is played through mature trees, and on some rolling hills, so there is a good use of elevation. Several tough uphill shots, along with nice downhill shots. Holes 5 and 6 play near some backyards which add difficulty with those yards being OB.

The back 9 is a little bit tighter playing in and out of the woods, and forcing a little more accuracy off the tee.

There is a practice basket next to the playground near hole 1.

There are tee signs (see cons) and benches at each hole

Cons:

Tee signs are the same crappy ones that are at most St. Louis courses they just have the distances and a bolt telling you which position its in, so if you have never played it before you may have to walk some fairways to find the baskets. I HAVE HEARD AND SEEN PICS OF NEW TEE SIGNS NOT SURE WHEN I WILL GET UP THERE TO SAY THEY ARE ALL IN THOUGH

I don't remember seeing any trash cans on the course, but there wasn't much trash laying around either.

One of the pins for 18 is on the other side of a walking path, so be careful.

a few fairways play extremely close to one another, so there could be a bit of a safety concern with errant throws.

The layout of the course could be confusing for first time players, so you may want a map or a guide. Guide may be preferred with the tee signs. There are square blocks by each pin with an arrow pointing to the next tee, but I say 1 pointing the wrong way, and several you could barely make out the arrow at all.

Other Thoughts:

It was a little wet from the rain the day before, and seems that after a lot of rain it could stay swampy for a long period of time

First tee is near the pavilion in the middle of the park, and 18 ends by the tennis courts.

This is a nice course and worth playing, but there are others in the area I would recommend over Endicott
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ervin
Experience: 10 played 8 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Very Solid 18 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 5, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Really nice variety of in wooded and semi-open holes. Really nice terrain shots, and some really fun tunnel in the woods kind of shots. The hole that got me the first time I played it was 15, which is in the back of a culdesac of trees and is almost impossible to find unless you're with someone who knows where they're going.

Cons:

The course layout is pretty top notch, but the challenge is in finding where you're headed. If you don't know your way around, or where the next hole is, you can wander all over the place. It's a better course to play with someone who knows where they're going--having played there three times, I'm still not totally sure I know where the holes go. Holes 2-8 feel like they're on top of one another, and that you can really hit someone on drives and approaches. It's a fun course, but unless you're with a someone who has played this course before, you might want to play with the league so they can show you around.
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Jonnykatz
Experience: 40.8 years 17 played 9 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2nd only to JB in STL 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 18, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

I rate this course a solid 4. Of the courses I've played around STL I'd rate it second only to Jefferson Barracks, which is probably my favorite course I've played anywhere as far as hole layout. The tees are excellent with good markers to the next treat the baskets on some more confusing ones. Love the variety and challenge. Hole 7, I think, had a unique tee location on top of a knoll.

Cons:

Although I enjoyed the challenging layouts it would help first timers to have maps at the tees to avoid having to guess or scout ahead. Lacks long distance holes.
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MightyJeff
Experience: 27.8 years 34 played 13 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 14, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Excellent workout! The course goes uphill, downhill, and you get the occasional flat hole just when you need to catch your breath
-Nice variety of holes regarding tree obstacles,layout, etc.
-Easily accessible from the freeway if you're an out-of-towner; not too hard to get lost
-Strikes a balance between being challenging but not overly challenging... a hard balance to achieve

Cons:

-The navigation can be difficult for first-timers. I got lost a few times, but was always able to find my way eventually. A previous reviewer mentioned the bricks with arrows pointing to the next tee, but I had a hard time finding them, and when I did, the paint was so raided that it was difficult to make out where I was supposed to go next.
-While there is a great variety of wooded and open holes (and everything in between), it felt like almost every hole had the same length. I would have loved to have seen a technical 150-footer or two mixed in, not to mention a tight 500-600 hole.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course - if it were my home course, I'd be spoiled when trying others for the first time. While I wasn't able to try out other courses in the St. Louis area, I wouldn't be surprised if Endicott is among the best in the city.
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twiggycdxx
Experience: 24.9 years 42 played 3 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Endicott 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 7, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

I nice, challenging course. There are some nice open shots and some very challenging wooded shots. The course has concrete tee pads and multiple pin placements as to change it up.

Cons:

Course can be a little muddy at times.

Other Thoughts:

This is probably my favorite course in St. Louis. it is very challenging and fun to play!!
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