Lewisberry, PA

Red Land High School

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HyooMac
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 6.7 years 415 played 382 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Watch Your DIsc Soar! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 10, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ A few fun and interesting holes if you play walks and roads OB (#13 especially, because it's a short uphill with a road crossing in front and a walk behind the basket - an ad hoc island hole!)

+ Long shots from elevated tees where you can enjoy just watching your disc fly, with very little worry about it getting into trouble


Cons:

- Tee pads are barely large enough for standstill. They're maybe 3' square. But they're poured concrete, framed with wood ties. And the front wood edge has the #, distance and par carved into them - nice touch! But don't use the teepads - just run up alongside them

- A few really rusty baskets among mostly decent ones

- The single wooded hole (#9) is a dirt access road bordering the back of the field - but the basket itself is more in the field than in the woods - and you have to throw past the pin to get out of the woods and putt back toward the basket. Not ideal

Other Thoughts:

~ The par 72 is pretty soft, especially for a wide open course like this one. But if the location means this course is geared toward new and young players, the soft par isn't that bad an idea

~ And of course, being at a high school, there's no way to play much of the course if the athletic fields are in use

~ One "extra" - many of the basket poles include descriptions of calisthenics that can be done on the spot. I'm guessing this is some sort of cardio fitness route for gym classes. But hey - why not drop down and give me 25?

~ This is everything you'd expect for "baskets around athletic fields." There's some elevation and a lot of distance, but nothing very memorable

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gregs
Experience: 63 played 8 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2020 update, 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 31, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

I figured it was time for an update. Course layout hasn't changed since the 2014 reviews. Read those.

Right off, this is not the kind of course I really enjoy. It's wide open, and long. If you have the arm, you might like it. Holes 3 and 9 were the only ones that had any actual obstacles (ie, trees). However, the course makes good use of the elevation changes everywhere, and around the baskets. The grass is well maintained.

May be COVID-19 related, but playing early afternoon there were NO outside student activities. Late afternoon, after school hours, the fields started getting busy.

Address should really be 544 Pleasant View Road. We parked in the student lot near hole 1, which was empty. Maybe we weren't suppose to, and if things were normal, the lot would have been full. Don't know.

Cons:

As others have said, short tee pads. If I play it again, I'll tee off the grass instead.

Hole 4 had a truck and trailer parked right in front of the tee. We took a stroke and played from in front rather than risk hitting them. Still ended up playing to basket 6 by mistake.

Tee 7 is at a shed, no run-up, as others have said.

Tee 12 is essentially blocked by some sort of equipment. We teed off to the left.

If there are outside activities at the school, the course would likely be unplayable. But today, it was good.

Other Thoughts:

Likely COVID-19 related, there were no score sheets or maps at hole 1. The course can be a bit confusing without a map.

Tee 2 is next to the fence and in front of the maintenance building.


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rmiller44
Experience: 12 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 1, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Big, big, big. If you're tired banging your drivers off trees, this is your course. Great elevation changes, several blind tee shots, and the school grounds are very well maintained.

#1 -Down two hills and across the parking lot...beauty. Aim for the light pole with a strong backhand and you'll end up close. Yes, I've hit the farm house.

#2 - Walk between the fence and the shed to find the tee box...if no one is parking on it.

#3 - The basket is protected by a small rise of trees. Left or right is fine; straight on is no man's land.

#4 - Big drive back across the gravel lot then a dogleg right to the basket. The fringe is brutal.

#5 - This is your chance to impress the field hockey players and baseball teams. The only hazard is the seasonal swamp from left to center.

#6 - Another big drive to an elevated basket. Try to avoid the joggers on the path along the hill.

#7 - Like most of the sheds by the tees, this one harbors an assortment of bees and wasps, so just give them room. Two big drives can get you close the basket that's nestled in the corner.

#8 - Aceable. Easier when the foliage is not so lush.

#9 - This is their homage to finesse. Head down the path to the right of #8 and the tee box is in the mud. Nice and tight throws. "House rules" say you can blast it out into the field if you're not into finesse, but only after your first shot.

#10 - Straight shot along the soccer field. Again, the fringe is brutal. A little drop off beyond the hole can make for a tough putt.

#11 - It's not that far, but the fenced-in track to your right can mess with your head. Especially if the gate is closed.

#12 - This is why you came (unless it's football season). Big fairway of 400 feet, track to your right, around the concession building, and there's the basket, perched up on top of the hill. If you overshoot and have to putt downhill, good luck.

#13 - My one and only ace hole. Up the hill and across the road. Watch for cross traffic.

#14 - Another blind tee shot, over a slight rise. No one has used the sand volleyball court in years, so it makes a nice landing spot.

#15 - Another favorite. The area around the tee box is usually pretty damp, but your first throw is a bottleneck between a hill and some residences, then it opens up to a vast field with the basket sitting in the middle of nowhere.

#16 - Most scenic tee shot. Long, across the bowl-shaped field towards the road, then through the tree line to the basket. Really nice view in the fall.

#17 - After #16, make a hard right and follow the road to the tee box. The basket is hidden over the hill to the right of the school. And once you're over the crest, it drops off so far to the left that a promising shot can easily bounce off the road or the brick wall.

#18 - Blind, straight up the hill, to the right of the tennis courts. Make sure to stop at the memorial for the beloved Mr. Bartol; the inscription on the plaque is "Did you fill anyone's basket today?" Almost like he's the patron saint of disc golf. Reflect for a moment, then go ahead and fill your own basket. You earned it.

Cons:

This course puts the "multi" in multi-use. Most days are fine, but you'll have to skip several holes during the spring and fall sports seasons. The tee boxes are more for reference, not really usable for a run up. The foliage around the fringe of the course is very dense in the summer.

Other Thoughts:

This is my hometown course, the one that got me into the sport. So despite its flaws, I'm still very fond of it. We're blessed to have some quality courses in this area (Quaker's Challenge, Boulder Woods, Creekside, and Coyote Hills), and this is a nice alternative if you're looking for something different.
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Fire Marshal Bill
Experience: 15.9 years 10 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Good course for distances 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 28, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Nice, wide open areas. Several changes in elevation make it interesting on several of the holes, mainly baskets 1, 17 and 18. Each tee has the distance and par cut into it. Maps are located up at Tee 1.

Cons:

Located on school grounds. Several of the baskets are located across roadways, meaning you have to throw across them. Tees are somewhat on the small side, roughly 3 foot by 3 foot. Scorecard and map are not the easiest to understand.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, a nice course. Plenty of wide open spaces to try out your long distance drivers. Can become rather windy at times.
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prerube
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Premium Member
Experience: 16.8 years 274 played 235 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Time to air out the drivers...from a standstill :( 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 21, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

Kiosk with maps, pencils and scorecards.
Distance carved into each tee pad.

Course features holes over 600 feet so you can air out the drivers that you do not get to use as much at the Gifford Pinchot courses.

A few attractive holes. 8 was a nice short par 3 gaurded by trees on the right and open field on the left. Elevation came into play on a few holes. 17 is a good example of throwing over the rolling hills. It is too difficult and dangerous for the average student, but to wide open for expereinced players.

Cons:

3x3 tee pads for holes over 600 feet are unacceptable. No tee signs.

Never found the tiny tee for hole 2.

Several design issues:
The first tee starts the course immediately throwing over a parking lot. HUGE hazard. Hole 2 throws over the soccer field, 3 is a blind shot over a gravel parking lot. Tee 4 aims directly at basket 5, which would be about the same distance as 4, so it is very easy to toss at the wrong basket. Hole 5's tee is directly infront of a shed, so a run up is impossible on this 560 foot hole. Holes 8,10, and 11 were all similar holes with something gaurding the right side so you had to come in from the left. Hole 9 was a tight right dog leg through mud and thorns. when you get to the end you have to do a 180 degree turn to throw back at teh basket. Hole 12 can throw over the track if you want to take that risk on your first or even second shot. 13 is a short uphill shot with the basket only 7 feet from the road. You can hit the basket and wind up OB. 16 throws over a exit road.

Other Thoughts:

Not sure the purpose of this course. Par is set generous for school kids, but the course is not really set up for kids to use, The course is so spread out that supervision would be impossible, the tee pads are often very close to the previous baskets, and there are several safety issues. However, the tiny tee pads are a turn off for disc golfers who gain benefit from the long distance holes.
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Crooow
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 36.9 years 248 played 52 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Long, Open, Flawed 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 21, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very well kept up. Everything was mowed. All tees except #2 were easy to find. A couple of interesting basket placements (#3, #9). Baskets are in great shape. Good mix of short and long. Good mix of up and down given the terrain). Short walk from parking lot to first tee. Course finishes back at same parking lot. You can really air out your drivers.

Cons:

Most holes are wide open. Several play along the side of the woods but the woods are easily avoidable. Basically just long and open. My biggest gripe is the tee pads. They are very short and raised so when I ran up (which you want to on many of the holes), I invariably had trouble with the step-up and release. Two of the pads are directly in front of structures so you cannot run up. This is especially annoying on #7 which is a 569 foot hole but there is a shed directly behind the 4 foot tee pad so no run up at all. No facilities (unless you are a student or teacher, I guess).

Other Thoughts:

The course is pleasant and I'm glad I played it once but there is no reason to return. If I had just teed off beside the tee pads (or somewhere else close), I probably would have enjoyed it more.
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tistoude
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.8 years 198 played 60 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Wide Open 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 9, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Red Land High School hosts a nice 18 hole course that roams across very well maintained fields circling the school.

Pretty much all of the elevation available was used for this course. You get a couple downhill drives (1, 2, 4 and 7) as well as a few up hill rippers (11, 13, 14).

Most school courses consist of a 9 hole pitch and putt but this 18 hole course has some decent distance with a few holes over 400' all the way to 650'.

This is a good course for anyone looking to air out their plastic. There is also very little chance of losing a disc here.

The Innova Discatcher baskets were in good shape.

There were tees with the par and distance engraved into them.

Kiosk at Hole #1 that had pencils and score cards w/map.

Cons:

The tee pads are only 3x3 concrete pads framed in wood.

The whole course is just kind of blah. It looks like the designer used everything available which admittedly wasn't much. Only three or four holes have any kind of natural obstacle.

Since it plays around and over a lot of the school fields this course would become unplayable if they were being used.

You play over roads and parking lots as well as very close to a few buildings. No real danger but you should be aware.

Other Thoughts:

A nice fast course to play in the summer evenings when nothing else is happening at the school. Since I play mostly wooded courses it was a nice change to air out some of my discs without fear of trees and, well, anything interfering. Kind of like field practice.

I always appreciate school courses since that means that young people are being introduced to our sport but with all of the other courses in the area like, Pinchot, Creekside and Codorus this will never be a must play.
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CZaslav
Experience: 24.9 years 271 played 6 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Air it out 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 21, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great length, I have never seen any course with this amount of length on a high school campus, nothing with this length even on a college campus. Decent use of space.
Nice baskets

Cons:

Tee pads are awful, they are pretty much useless.
Course was very wet and swampy after a rain, this tends to happen in most areas of PA I feel.
No real obstacles
School was not in session when I played but I don't think you will be able to play all 18 when the school fields are in use.

Other Thoughts:

This course seems like it could defiantly have it's fun moments. Lots of space to air out your arm and throw from some elevated tees. Very nice score cards and pencils available. They should really address the tee pads as it is a big cons especially when the course is soggy as they are useless except for giving the distance which is nice. I think it is a great course for a high school and probably the best high school course I have ever seen. I wish my high school had something 1/10th as good as this.
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KAK3990
Experience: 14.8 years 121 played 10 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Bring your drivers and get ready to stretch out the old noodle. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 29, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-Wide open allowing you lots of opportunities to air it out
-Excellent use of elevation throughout the course
-Low chance of disc loss
-Well maintained with nice newish baskets and concrete teepads (teepads are a bit short)
-Scorecards and pencils have been available beside hole #1 every time I have played there. The map on the scorecard also makes it very easy to navigate

Cons:

-On the grounds of Redland High School, so during school hours you must yield to phys-ed classes or any other activity taking place
-Main challenge is distance, the design dosent place a high emphasis on "shotmaking"
-Plays across or near several roads and parking lots making awareness of your surroundings important

Other Thoughts:

I am an above average recreational level player. For me this course is incredibly long. I can only think of 1 or 2 holes where I would tee off with anything other than a driver. There's nothing wrong with that its just not my favorite type of course. That being said, it allows you an opportunity to really grip it and rip it on almost every hole. Make sure you stretch and get that arm nice and warm before you play.
Its awesome that a local high school put a course in and hopefully this will encourage a whole new generation of disc golfers in the central pennsylvania area.
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RamsFan1
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.5 years 91 played 91 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Very Nice High School Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 10, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Eighteen hole course with quality Innova baskets located on very well-manicured high school property. A "welcome" kiosk/board greets you at tee #1 and has a course map, pencils and scorecards available. The hole, par number and distance are all professionally etched into the front piece of 4 x 4 on each tee box. There is good variety and varying distances throughout the course and excellent use of elevation. Course navigation was relatively easy. Challenging, yet appropriate for most levels of play.

Cons:

The biggest con by far is the size of the tee boxes, which are about half the size of what they should be. Public use is limited to summer months, after school hours and weekends & one must also work around athletic events taking place. Several holes cross access ways and hole one has the potential for disaster if cars are in the parking lot.

Other Thoughts:

While visiting the area, I decided to play this course and was not disappointed. As a high school phys. ed. teacher who designed a 9 hole course for our own school, I must commend those responsible for putting this course together. A lot of thought and effort went into this, and I think it's great this sport is slowly weaving its way into the school P.E. curriculum. The course is challenging- maybe TOO challenging for many students, but will undoubtedly improve their game while teaching them the sport. The Red Land DG Course will appeal to those who like to let it fly in an open area, not so much to those who prefer more technical layouts. Overall, a good playing experience. Get your 54 hole disc golf fix by playing Creekside, Pinchot State Park and Red Land all in one day.
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swatso
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.7 years 755 played 414 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Drive By 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:May 1, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Kiosk/scorecards at start, good baskets, on-line map makes it a cinch to navigate.

Cons:

Tee "pads" are 3'x3' wood frames filled with grey stones. Plays across/near multiple parking lots and athletic fields. Some tee locations are quite close to previous basket.

Other Thoughts:

Course skirts the property line and/or athletic fields of a high school set upon a large piece of property. If you like your courses long, mostly flat, and wide open, this is the course for you! Average length just under 400', ranging from 180' to 650', over half falling into the 275'-375' range. Half the holes are relatively flat, the others with elevation changes, but only three significantly so (#1 down, #13/#18 up). Other than narrow-wooded left-turning #9, all the holes are open. Most are WIDE open, with numbers 4,7,8,10,12 having "threats" (woods, fence) along the right-side.

No tee signs - the hole #, distance, and par is etched into the front of each teepad's wood frame, so you'll need the map to navigate. Most tee locations are near the previous basket and easy to find, but some tips include: #2, couldn't find it, so threw from just in front of the benches; #9 is in the woods, about even with basket #8; #17 is a bit behind/to the right of basket #16;

Favourite hole #3: Flat, just under 300', basket just behind a tree and a small grouping of bushes, can approach from left or right.

If you like to open courses where you can let loose and not worry too much about disc loss, this course is for you. If you prefer touch, technique, and turns, you'll need to look elsewhere.
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Joe Hollywood
Experience: 14.8 years 55 played 7 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Patriot Pride 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 5, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

A fun course to play during the summer when school is not in session. A lot of elevation changes and long distance holes make this a great course for strong arms with long drives. The tee off boxes are marked well with the par and distance at the front of each box.

Cons:

During school months the course is use for phy ed. class. Many of the holes are located around athletic fields which make it hard to play when practices or games are going on. Holes 1 and 3 go over parking areas. The tee boxes are a little small. Some of the tee offs don't have any room for a run up.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course and would be better if it wasn't built around high school athletic fields. That being said the best time to experience this course is over the summer when school isn't in session.
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optidiscic
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21.8 years 156 played 147 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Wish I had a Course like this in High School 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 6, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Has plenty of elevation and distance. Coming in at over 7000 feet. Mostly a big armer's delight with huge open drives across/alongside athletic fields. Up and down hills. One tight wooded hole on hole 9. The best holes are the for now unfinished 15-18. These holes are not close to any other activities and make playing this course worth the trip. 15 is an uphill climb. 16 is a glorious wide open hole across a bowl shaped grassy valley downhill then up between 2 trees. 17 is a steep drive up and across a steep sloping grass hillside, I would imagine wind and rollers could really come into play here. 18 appears to be a drive straight up again to finish the day. Well marked teepads. I love the concept of disc golf being part of a HS phys ed curriculum.

Cons:

Just 12 holes at this time but soon to be 18......won't affect my rating, I am rating as if final 6 holes are done. The tee pads are tiny and big gravel stones at this time. I simply chose to tee off from the grass alongside the tees. For the massive distance of the holes here I would rather have just boards flat in the grass rather than short poor tees. The first 14 holes pose plenty of risk of injury or annoyance as they either traverse roads, parking lots, athletic fields or common areas. Realize the course is meant for PE class and thus no conflicts for students...but I would guess it is best to play this one during the summer during the day to avoid any conflicts. 180 days a year there will classes and there will be activity on the fields even more often. Hole 12 was a disappointment.....there is a huge open field 300-400 feet across with a dramatic hillside rising steeply 30-40 feet straight ahead....a basket at top or on this hillside would have been the signature hole on the course but instead the basket is doglegged around a football field barbed wired fence and all.....WHY? Too much risk and too rarely can you play without conflicts keeps my rating down.

Other Thoughts:

If this course was just laid out as it is and there was no HS, atletic fields, roads, then it would be a 3.5 or 4 disc rating.....the distance and elevation makes it interesting. Unfortunately that won't happen. If your able to play it off hours I am sure you can have a lot of fun here. Probably a matter of time before a window gets smashed by an errant drive on Hole 17. Seems a bit of a beastly course for a HS. I don't think the course could be played in one gym period? I really don't think many HS kids will be able to play this huge course! I love the idea though and hopefully I will be proven wrong. I am considering contacting my Alma Mata about a 9 holer. Great Idea/Great Course...Good Luck to you Red Landers!
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Wreckmaster13
Experience: 15.8 years 228 played 8 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Great course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 17, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

i have only been playing for 2 years.

Hole 1 - nice down hill across the driveway. Looks and plays nice.

Hole 2 - I love it ( See other thought..)Cons to follow.

Hole 3 - Look great, Cons to follow.

Hole 4 - Long dog leg. I have played across it for a long 2 attempt. not worth tring unless you have the arm...

Hole 5 - Basic

Hole 6 - across the side of a hill, great look and flow.

Hole 7- Driver hole

Hole 8 - Those of you looking for a ace here is the chance. I have hit the chains 3 time, but they have not grabbed the disc.

Hole 9 - potential see cons

Hole 10 - See cons

Hole 11 - Looks good, with danger on the right

Hole 12 - Well i have a descent arm and it still takes me 3 shot to get anywhere near the hole. I do love the danger factor on the right.

We have played the entire cousre a few time. i brought my hole with me and lugged it around the last 6 holes.

PLEASE FINISH SOON
Everything is marked

Hole 13 - another hole in one attemp. up hill is deceptive.
i like it.

Hole 14 - Throwing at the beach (volleyball court OB) hole just off the courner blind shot at the pin. i like it.

Hole 15 - LONG but a great vally looking throw right up the shoot.

Hole 16 - another great looking hole with the curb preventing the slide across the road

Hole 17 - School window are in danger if disc catches good cross wind. Another drivers hole.

Hole 18 - the finish with a up hill blind hole shot. very picturesque. Just kidden

Great flow to the course. Please see cons. i do have some worries.

Cons:

Hole 2 - soccer practice/ tournaments.

Hole 3 - Across the parking lot for the soccer practice/tournaments

Hole 4 - Over hanging tree at tee off box right over tee box. Maybe open up a cut out straight toward the hole.

Hole 5 - Tee box needs moved forward a bit, only a few feet behind it. ( runway not needed, but it helps.

Hole 7 - Tee box right against shed. Maybe move it to side of shed.

Hole 9 - Not everyone is a pro. open up path a bit wider , Half way down cut a path to cross over to field.

Hole 10 - Soccer practice. move tee off pad. right now you are standing practically in poison to throw. with vines hanging over the tee box. Plus if others are playing hole 9 , you are in their way.

Hole 12 - really long. Feild hockey/ soccer/ baseball football practice.

That about it.

Other Thoughts:

i may be biased to this course, it is my favorite. ( Well because hole 2 is the first hole i have ever aced.) With a soccer coach standing on the field watching, and the wrestling coach in my foursome)
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IAMGT
Experience: 16.8 years 24 played 19 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Will be great when done 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 4, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is a brand new course, that when all 18 holes have disccatchers, will be a lot of fun to play. The course had a couple of interesting holes that changed elevation. Nice to have a course in the middle of West Shore School District. Shouldn't have too much traffic on it since it's at a High School. This is a great practice course for long drives. Almost all holes you can really grip it and rip it and most likely will still be on some sort of grass. The key for this course is how well can you approach and putt. The course is maintained well since it is at a high school and mowed regularly. The course has had a lot of trees chopped down and has cleared up some bad spots on the course where a disc may have wanted to hide. Can't wait to get the other holes in! Good exercise walking this course...up and down hills, this is not a casual walk.

Cons:

The holes can be extremely swampy. Holes 6-9 are all along the woods and number 9 is basically in the woods. The tee box for number 9 is about 15 feet back in the woods behind number 8's basket. Some people play 9 by throwing out onto number 8 and then taking a long shot at the hole instead of trying to finesse your shots through the carved out woods.

Other Thoughts:

This course will be great for all skill levels. If you are a pro, make sure you're under par and have a great shot to get some 2's on some long holes. Gives people a great chance to practice some bombs.
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Jaysus
Experience: 17.8 years 22 played 1 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Long and open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 20, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

I started on hole #3, which seems like a nice place to start: right off of Pleasant View Road in the stone parking lot. The #2 basket is in the middle of the field to the left, and the #3 tee is just past it. #3 plays back across the parking lot behind some guard trees that are pretty much the only natural obstacles on the course - neat little hole.

#4 is a monster dogleg right that plays about 350' straight before turning 90 degrees to the right for the next 300' or so. This is one of the holes that plays along the woods - which I would consider OB to increase the challenge on the course (a lot of the baskets are awfully close to the woods).

#5, 6, and 7 play back and forth across the field, some swampy areas mixed in there... enough to keep a mower out, but not enough to lose a disc in. #7 is long and downhill with the basket in the "corner" - that will make sense when you see it. Fun hole - awful tee though; the tee is only 3' long and it is about 1' in front of a shed... oof.

#8 and 9 play along the wood line and are both are similar shots, slight anny or straight and low. I couldn't find the #9 tee, so I estimated the distance above, but it is essentially the exact same shot as #8. Should you chose to play the woods as OB, your putts could be hairy. #10 is another similar shot, though longer and back towards the track. #11 is the same shot as 6, but in the opposite direction - maybe a bit flatter.

#12 is long... and I 4ed it (just wanted to mention that): hard dogleg right after about 400' with a 12' high fence surrounding the track along the right. Pin location along a hill makes for a fun putt - oh yeah, there is a building in play too that may force an overhand shot depending on where your drive lands.

Holes 13-18 did not have baskets: 13 is an odd and short hole, up a hill, across a 'road', with a pin position that I can only imagine is near the parking lot (I just played to a trash can).

#15, 16, and 17 were all real pretty and will surely be a fun stretch of holes - I am looking forward to the basket on them... will probably be the signature stretch of holes on the course. #18 is pretty much straight forward, and ends up in another "corner" up near the road.

Walk between the tennis courts and Pleasant View Road from the #18 basket to find the #1 tee for a goofy downhill shot across a `road' with a bunch of fenced in area behind the basket. I didn't actually throw from the tee because there were so many cars leaving the school at the time.

To find the #2 tee, take a 200' walk from the #1 basket towards Pleasant View Road, then round the corner (around the previously mentioned fenced in area) away from the road for another 100' or so. #2 is another open downhill shot that make short armed discers like myself feel like Earls.

Cons:

The tee boxes are pretty rough. They are all 3'x 2' and a bunch of them have obstacles immediately behind them (mostly sheds, but also a ditch or two). I did not even try throwing from a couple of them. On the plus side, they were all cleverly marked with distance and par - which was nice.

A couple holes played across either parking lots, or campus roads, which is awkward.

Currently no baskets on holes 12-18.

Other Thoughts:

So yeah, Red Land, huh? Imagine Willow Mill on steroids. Not those wimpy 'roids that Manny Rodriguez was caught using either - think Arnold Schwarzenegger 70's style steroids. The course is over 7k feet long... no, really. There are 3 600+ footers, one of which is nearly 700'. Some nice elevation changes, but not many trees - mostly just length. I think the school is planning on including DG in the PE curriculum - those kids are going to develop quite the arms playing this course.
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