mbowen000
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Hi all. Looking for some analysis / critique on what is most questionable or wrong about my form. I'm really having noticeable nose-up backhand throws where, especially with a tailwind I can see the flight plate and just see all of the speed killed about half way through its flight. In my uploaded video its worth noting that probably half my shots I pull right of my target line (see first throw). My target is the end of that curvy sidewalk on the left side of the video but my shots commonly go about 100ft right towards those trees and the upslope.
I browse DGCR forums a lot, read heavydisc like its the bible and have watched soo many videos (mostly SWs) and followed tons of other form critique threads so I can tell the following things might be wrong all in combination, it's just, as we all know, SO hard to correct bad habits. I've played disc golf since 2005-10 and then from 2018 until now, and so much of my throw was engrained from ultimate and self-teaching myself disc golf before I watched any pros. So any particular "big chunks" I could bite off and fix with particular drills would be much appreciated. Do you guys think I will need to go to standstills to correct things? I hate the idea of going full reset but I want to hear the experts' advice on what is really going to help.
Specifically to try to correct nose down, I've tried:
All these symptoms and problems! Just hoping for some medicine to make it better. My shots are capped about 200ft with putters and mids, 300ft with fairways, and 340ft with drivers. My putting game is the only thing keeping my under par, and my ability to consistently hit lines with my lacking power if I'm willing to sacrifice distance.
Thanks so much ahead of time for the helpful advice and time for anyone that chimes in!
[1]https://www.vorticasport.com/post/2017/09/08/12-classic-mistakes-in-disc-golf-no-4-classic-low-elbow
I browse DGCR forums a lot, read heavydisc like its the bible and have watched soo many videos (mostly SWs) and followed tons of other form critique threads so I can tell the following things might be wrong all in combination, it's just, as we all know, SO hard to correct bad habits. I've played disc golf since 2005-10 and then from 2018 until now, and so much of my throw was engrained from ultimate and self-teaching myself disc golf before I watched any pros. So any particular "big chunks" I could bite off and fix with particular drills would be much appreciated. Do you guys think I will need to go to standstills to correct things? I hate the idea of going full reset but I want to hear the experts' advice on what is really going to help.
- My Elbow probably not high enough. Vortica's article [1] says "stupidly high" is the right amount. Should I just focus on driving the elbow and getting it higher? As I was doing form work last summer I remember keeping the elbow was helping me get some nose down flights but now it doesn't seem to be helping. See attached photo and how the nose is "dipping" before my release. I've seen that commonly in film of my throws and think it could be an issue.
- Overall timing: May it be that I'm going into my reachback too early? My shoulders are definitely opening too soon.
- Weight transfer: Am I getting my weight forward enough on my front foot? Is the timing off there due to the "overall timing" issue?
- Horse stance: I've tried to correct this with partial success over the last couple years with varied success. Its hard to tell in the grass but the back foot during x-step seems too wide and the front is SO difficult for me to plant closed. My hips naturally open outward it seems but also I think I just grew up pointing the toe forward to throw a frisbee.
- Missing the "power pocket" - Something I never seem to have found. See attached image for my disc at the left pec, not the right. So I'm not getting it deep enough.
Specifically to try to correct nose down, I've tried:
- Flexing my wrist downward (pouring coffee style)
- Keeping my arm relaxed, or loose through the throw until the last millisecond.
- Keeping my elbow up, although admittedly I think I'm doing this less and less lately as I focus on other things.
- Making sure my grip is aligned so the disc is below my index finger knuckle.
All these symptoms and problems! Just hoping for some medicine to make it better. My shots are capped about 200ft with putters and mids, 300ft with fairways, and 340ft with drivers. My putting game is the only thing keeping my under par, and my ability to consistently hit lines with my lacking power if I'm willing to sacrifice distance.
Thanks so much ahead of time for the helpful advice and time for anyone that chimes in!
[1]https://www.vorticasport.com/post/2017/09/08/12-classic-mistakes-in-disc-golf-no-4-classic-low-elbow