Stockton, AL

Live Oak Landing

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markmcc
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Experience: 12.5 years 278 played 254 reviews
2.00 star(s)

A Decent Start - A Ways to Go! 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 16, 2019 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Live Oak Landing has started with a pretty decent piece of land for disc golf. There is a nice mixture of mature trees towering over mowed grass, as well as an area of the course that plays through a more natural forested area.

Hole lengths are in the 250' - 350' range without much variation, so this course gives intermediate players plenty of birdie looks, and recreational players reasonable distances to work with. At least I think those are the hole lengths... (See cons).

A small pond adds adventure to a couple of holes. On Hole 9 you can lay up in front of the water and putt across for an easy 3, or go for the birdie but risk dunking your disc. Hole 18 requires a modest carry across to a pin tucked close to the water. The safe play is to run it on by and putt back. Trying to land it close brings the water more into play.

While most of the holes play through scattered trees, Holes 10 - 13 are placed into a natural wooded area and are much tighter, with true tunnel shots for drives.

Some line shaping is required, but nothing dramatic. Good balance of forehand/backhand holes.

So far the infrastructure consists of new Prodigy baskets that are blue. Not quite as easy to see as bright yellow or orange, but they show up fine and catch well.

Cons:

There needs to be some work on getting the tee positions set. I came across a couple of buried toe boards, and a couple of blue posts set into the ground. However most of the tee markers were blue posts on tiny bases that had fallen over, been leaned up against trees, etc. I have no idea if the tees were in their "correct" position as in many cases they seemed to be randomly laying around.

The course has not seen enough use to wear-in any particular teeing position, so I was guessing in some cases.

No signage at all, which adds to the confusion.

This is a public park and the course winds it's way through some busy-ish areas. Hole 18 was not safely playable a couple of times I tried, as the pond is a popular fishing spot for families.
Primitive camping is allowed near Holes 15 & 16 and depending on where folks set up those holes can be impacted.

Other Thoughts:

I recognize that this is a new course, and may see significant improvement as it is brought along. I hope so, as the land and terrain is very nice for disc golf. Hopefully installation of permanent tee pads and signage will happen soon. If so, this course could get to a 3 or 3.5 in my mind.

There is a C-Tier scheduled for May 4th, so perhaps they'll get some things firmed up.
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wellsbranch250
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Experience: 10.8 years 694 played 680 reviews
2.00 star(s)

A Future Good Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 16, 2019 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

(2.109 Rating) A brand spanking new course with a little bit of everything and a lot of room for growth.
- UNIQUENESS - A touch above average. Mostly a light to moderately wooded park style layout. The distances were not marked on my first appearance, but fellow reviewer markmcc came in a gps'd them in the 200 to 420 range. There are a few wooded holes on the back nine, and hole (10) is nice left breaking pocket shot. Water comes into play a few times. Most evident is on the excellent finishing hole, where the short water clear has the basket perched 30 feet from shore. Not really much elevation other than 10 to 15 foot rolling swales. No par 4s currently, but there appears to be room to tweak one into the park space as the course evolves.
- RAW BEAUTY - This an above average looking disc golf space, but not in the upper third of the courses I've played. Lots of live oaks with Spanish moss and some topical vegetation like palms and palmettos littered along a couple fairways.
- CHAINS - I liked the Prodigy baskets. Heavy chains and it was seemingly easy to spot the blue band down fairway.
- CHALLENGING - It felt like a tweener between Recreational and Intermediate, so a touch more difficult than the average course. The back nine felt a good two throws more difficult than the front being both longer and more wooded than the front. The difficultly is impacted somewhat by the poor tees (see cons) and a few holes are needing a little more TLC.
- SIGNATURE HOLE - Clearly Hole (18). I like it when a course layout finishes strong.
- QUICK PLAY - About average. Figure an hour for a quick solo and 2 hours for a four some.

Cons:

A young course with room for growth.
- CHARACTER - The course has nice baskets, numbered tee markers, arrows below baskets and it's built around general park infrastructure. That's it for disc golf basic equipment and extras. So, there is lots of room for growth here. First I'd like to see better defined tee markers. I saw a couple small wood boards marking edges, but they all need defined lines. Next I'd add a couple of benches and sharpie distances to the post. These are cheap considering the next items I'm going to mention, and they are needed for the course that seems to come in at around the 5,000 foot mark. Next I'd add teeing surfaces, followed by tee signs. That covers the basics. Hopefully these will get added in the year, and if the community grows, hopefully more bonus items will get added.
- NAVIGATION - Better than expected on first appearance, but it was already going downhill on my second appearance 2 months later. No course map on site yet, so I did not find tee (1) right away, which is just east of the general store. I started on hole (17) and once at the basket I noticed a nicely done directional arrow below the basket. All but two holes had an arrow below the basket, of which one was (18) and the other likely fell off. On my second appearance, the arrows inscriptions were all fading and a majority of the tee markers were knocked over. However, the arrows below the baskets made what could have been an exhausting effort, a touch more manageable. The transition between (3) and (4) was the only difficult journey, but it had a couple additional navigational cues along the 450 foot voyage.
- TEES - To expunge on the tees a bit further, they are natural and have some unevenness already developing. A few have small roots protruding the surface.
- MULTI USE HAZARDS - As noted above, I started on hole (17), cause I didn't know where to start being the first reviewer here. I had to wait for a walker as the basket was located on the far side of a walking path. When I got to (18) I had to skip the signature shot due to a fisherman. Thankfully I got to play it after I finished (16). Anyways, several holes bring paths or park roads and parking lots into play. There have been fishermen along the pond on both of my appearances. Not epic horrible, but very noticeable.
- WATER HAZARDS - Two substantial water hazard shots that some won't like. A beginner will lose plastic out here for sure and they should skip (8) and (18). I liked them both.
- DISCONTINUITY - There is some jumping around on this course, especially after (3). Lots of park roads need to be crossed. Overall, not really an issue.

Other Thoughts:

There's at a lot of stuff going well for this young course and I could see myself upping the rating when hole distance, navigation and tees are shored up. If the course grows a following that puts a lot of work into here, who knows maybe it could become a very good course. Only time will tell. Please PM me if additional infrastructure is added, and I will update my rating for the course.
- DOUBLE DIAMOND - On my second appearance here, I threw with fellow Diamond level TR markmcc. He's a blast to throw with and to talk disc golf bagging adventures and reviews methodology.
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