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Recent content by disc-golf-neil

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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    I'd have to see some frame by frame pics where you point out what you're talking about to make sure I'm following it. But my instinct is that if you put your arm in the power pocket and hold the disc so it touches your chest so that it's perpendicular to your chest, you can keep that amount of...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Yeah that's why I said it is a big success if a coach can get someone from a lot of nose up to slightly nose up. Slightly nose up is very manageable and the most important first step is just getting away from very nose up. Just because you are slightly nose up, it doesn't mean you get a big...
  3. disc-golf-neil

    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Yeah, but if I ignore it then in time others may think it's my actual view if they haven't read or remembered old posts.
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Most people probably wouldn't recognize in person that one of these is nose up. The perceived launch angle is nearly identical because the nose up rises out of the lower launch angle to get onto almost the same initial upwards trajectory very quickly but fairly smoothly so it's not strikingly...
  5. disc-golf-neil

    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    If they are already throwing nose down with good form then they don't. But as Coach Chris showed, all the pros he has measured are supinating and externally rotating to some degree, meaning they are mechanically doing some of the mechanic that turn the key is focused on. It's less about the cue...
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    Nose up to flat to nose down putt

    He said if you don't use it, but definitely. You see a lot of elderly in third world countries have amazing squat flexibility because the squat a lot more compared to, people in the US, sitting in chairs all the time and then can't even sit cross legged anymore or deep squat.
  7. disc-golf-neil

    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    You still straw man this? How many times do I have to tell you, I DO NOT HOLD THIS POSITION. I've spelled it out multiple times to you that I do not hold that position. I do not advocate teaching turn the key to someone who has fundamental form problems that could be addressed first. How the...
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    Nose up to flat to nose down putt

    This sounds more like what I imagine Ryan Sheldon might mean. Since he comes from a pro pitching background, I'm sure he's studied elite pitching mechanics and therefore should be aware of the leading elbow. So it makes me think it's more likely that he didn't communicate it well. Maybe Ryan...
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    Tech disc test driven development

    Controlling the hips is a bit vague sounding so I'm not totally sure what you mean by that. How does a wider brace control the hips more than a more inline brace? I'd like to see two back views of Simon, one where he's doing a more controlled shot and one where he is ripping it to see how...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    I think a lot of that perceived difficulty or hypocrisy can be traced to conflating different subsets of the conversation which when disentangled reveal there is much less disagreement. This is why I've gone out of my way a few times to make posts clearly separating the topics and my thoughts...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    It's not hypocritical because I very quickly and easily admit to the potential risk of the turn the key cue and I have multiple times warned about the these risks. Sheep on the other hand constantly makes absolute statements about it being a gimmick and bandaid without nuance and goes agro on...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    If sheep doesn't like a technique, it doesn't matter how much evidence you provide that the technique is used and is useful, he will only attribute negatives to it and sweep any positives under the "that's just good form" rug and hand-wave it away. It's nearly impossible to have a productive...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    That's been my experience. After hearing people here say it's all about the grip I've asked for the most nose up grip to test if I can throw nose down with it. No one has suggested one other than sewer bills suggestion to try no thumb but idk if he thought it was be an issue for nose angle or...
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    Are we just making things up with nose angle stuff now?

    Looks like it goes from extended back to near neutral. I think with good form and practice, it wants to do that on it's own and you don't have to think about it / try to do it. But when practicing, if I actively try to accelerate the disc more with my wrist into the hit, I get more speed and...
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