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Well, from here, you sound rather foolish. I read the former as "nobody can count on getting a birdie" and the latter as "nobody will ever get a birdie." Granted, I have a degree in English and reading for context is a habit for me.
I used to throw hammers and snap forehand rollers and other such things with abandon. I'm far too stiff and find many of them painful these days. Throwing after age 55 is a major change.
A check of disc stats shows that none of the MVP/Axiom discs with similar flight characteristics have a rim depth that shallow. They all run 1.5 cm to XD's 1.1 cm.
My first golf disc ages ago was an XD. Of the MVP putters I use, I reckon the Atom is akin to a shorter XD, the Ohm is a bit...
I started playing with a 163g Frisbee, as there was no place local to buy discs. I bought my first disc on the course from an out-of-town player who had one he'd sell me--a quite used Innova XD. Didn't get a bag for some time after that, after accumulating a few more discs.
You do realize that Axiom is a brand offered by MVP, yes? As is Streamline.
Also, those models aren't MVP's best molds, by any stretch of the imagination.
Are you trolling or just really don't know what you're talking about?