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Question: understanding these are the best players in the world, but should hole #2 be a par 4 not a 5?
It should be a par 4, even for USADGC.
IDK why it is a "supporting point" at all. Cant it just be a "point of contact"?
Yes, hole 7 and 15 were likely candidates for par 3s based on the stats. When you have just three holes that average 0.6 under par, especially when the scores aren't padded with penalties, your decimal par will be inflated by almost 2 throws (3 x 0.6). Integer values for par do not provide enough information to help evaluate relatively small differences in performance between scores on two different courses.I've gotta disagree with this.
There were only 5 people that got the eagle each day. Just because these robots can eagle it doesn't mean it should be a par 4. It takes 2 very good shots to get an eagle putt. Sure, it was the most birdied hole each day, but that's because it really isn't a very hard hole unless you make it hard. Hyzer, hyzer, putter/mid, putter.
Day 2 it averaged 4.34 - .66 strokes under par. The same day, hole 7 averaged 3.42 - .58 strokes under par. Pretty similar stats.. does that mean hole 7 should be a par 3? No. They're just the easier holes to birdie on the course.
Just my $.02
Seems to me that to "fix" the hole, either the tee needs to be stretched back about 100 feet (or angled in some way to add more challenge to placing the drive at the base of the hill) and left as a par 5, or the tee needs to be shortened 50-100 feet and changed to a par 4. I think it's one of those holes that is perfectly suited for what the course has been used for for the last 15 years (USADGC) but not necessarily ideal for an elite pro field. It's a matter of deciding which is the priority.
Do pros get a 5 on the hole and feel like they stayed even with the field, or that they lost a stroke.
Paul's round still gets my vote for the best or one of the best ever, but if you were showing it off on say, ESPN, looked more like a -17 to me.
They basically get them on similar par 5 holes that even the hard core ball golfer would say is "soft" and is now intended to have an eagle chance. But when it first started happening with a putt rather than holing out from off the green, there was much anguish over this happening as driving distances increased.Why? It's not like PGA players don't ever get eagles.