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Player A mistakes Player B's disc for their own and throws from there. When they go to bag the disc they realise their mistake.
After searching for the allotted time they cannot find their own disc so it is called lost. The lie is the previous lie.
Are the Misplay and the Lost disc considered two separate "throws" and subject to two separate penalties or is this counted as one as per the below so just the most severe penalty is awarded, Lost Disc, stroke and distance?
QA-APP-1: Is there a priority order for which violation should count if more than one rule applies?
"Yes. The violation with the most severe penalty is applied. Ties are broken by what happened first. A single throw cannot be penalized for more than one violation"
QA-APP-2: When multiple violations have occurred on a single throw, how do I determine which rule was first violated, given that a rule has not been violated until the disc has come to rest?
The meaning of "first" in the rule is the common understanding of when the disc first enters a state where it is in violation of a rule. One common pair of rules that can be violated during a single throw are OB and Mandatory. In that case, you would compare when the disc last crossed into OB with when it crossed the mandatory line, and play whichever happened first.
Is it covered by this:
"QA-APP-9: When a throw is not used (such as an abandoned throw, an unused provisional throw, a throw that was interfered with, or an unplayed throw in doubles), penalty throws incurred by that throw are ignored. Which penalties are those, exactly?
Penalty throws for: out-of-bounds, hazard, missed mandatory, above two meters, stance, marking, taking improper relief, or lost disc. All other penalties and warnings apply."
So would it just be Lost Disc penalty and back to previous lie and forget about the misplay?
I think that's correct but I'm second guessing myself.
After searching for the allotted time they cannot find their own disc so it is called lost. The lie is the previous lie.
Are the Misplay and the Lost disc considered two separate "throws" and subject to two separate penalties or is this counted as one as per the below so just the most severe penalty is awarded, Lost Disc, stroke and distance?
QA-APP-1: Is there a priority order for which violation should count if more than one rule applies?
"Yes. The violation with the most severe penalty is applied. Ties are broken by what happened first. A single throw cannot be penalized for more than one violation"
QA-APP-2: When multiple violations have occurred on a single throw, how do I determine which rule was first violated, given that a rule has not been violated until the disc has come to rest?
The meaning of "first" in the rule is the common understanding of when the disc first enters a state where it is in violation of a rule. One common pair of rules that can be violated during a single throw are OB and Mandatory. In that case, you would compare when the disc last crossed into OB with when it crossed the mandatory line, and play whichever happened first.
Is it covered by this:
"QA-APP-9: When a throw is not used (such as an abandoned throw, an unused provisional throw, a throw that was interfered with, or an unplayed throw in doubles), penalty throws incurred by that throw are ignored. Which penalties are those, exactly?
Penalty throws for: out-of-bounds, hazard, missed mandatory, above two meters, stance, marking, taking improper relief, or lost disc. All other penalties and warnings apply."
So would it just be Lost Disc penalty and back to previous lie and forget about the misplay?
I think that's correct but I'm second guessing myself.