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Bill Frederick Park - T2: The Turkeynator

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pmay5
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Experience: 20.9 years 482 played 245 reviews
4.00 star(s)

One of the best in Orlando

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 22, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

One of 3 courses in Bill Frederick park in the heart of Orlando. There is a $5/car fee to enter the park, so if you are playing 2, or all 3, well worth the price for this beautiful, well-kept park. I had a chance to play the Original course back in 2015 and finally got to play the other 2.
From what I remember of the Original course, I liked T2 a lot more. No truly open holes (#5 is about the closest) but the variety of partially wooded, to heavily wooded holes makes this very challenging. There is even a decent amount of elevation change here, and the knuckle tightening water carry on #16.
All holes have at least 2 tees, most have 3 and several even have a 4th (Gold) tee. So you have the choice to make this course as challenging as you want. Also a good variety of distances, 4 Par 4s and even a Par 5. It felt like a couple of holes on the back 9 could have been lengthened, to add a couple more Par 4s, but not a major issue.
The DGA baskets are all in good shape, with greens cleared to a good distance around them. Most can be seen from the tee (or fairway on the multi-shot holes) but the excellent tee signs show the hole design, or intended routes very well.
The course starts near the back of the park, very close to the Original course, with plenty of parking, restrooms and water right there (there's even shade trees to park under).

Cons:

While the Blue tees and Red tees are paved, the Blues are larger then the Reds. The big disappointment with the middle, or White, tees, in most cases these were older carpet (or mat) tees, most of these were rather short and not in good shape. I really wanted to play that level, but was not going to risk injury from those tees.
#18 was a rather disappointing finishing hole, short at 215', with all tees using the same patch of concrete, with slight differences in distance. Its a tight tunnel shot to a guarded basket, I guess there could be a good chance of scoring differences, but not the final hole I was expecting.
#1 starts out in the open, then tightens to a tunnel only 20' wide, with tight brush on both sides. You really have to have your accuracy and distance ready to start on this hole.
As I mentioned above, it appearred there was extra space beyond #13 basket and behind #14 tee that could have been used to lenghten those holes. I know the Original course plays in that area, but a couple more Par 4s would be great. (Probably a little picky on this Con.)

Other Thoughts:

The Orlando area is great for multi-course parks, River City Nature Park and Gordon Barnett both have 2, along with the 3 courses at Bill Frederick. I guess its kind of like the Theme parks, have multiple attractions in one location. It must really help with running tournaments, but I like it as a course bagger, just a walk (or short drive) from one course to another. Plus, if you show up for a round, and one course is busy, you should be able to jump over to the other one.
The Turkeynator provides many challenges, just like a great course should. Some very tight holes, #4, #6 and #18, the multi-shot holes mentioned earlier, #1,#5,#7,#11 and #17 and the water carry (with bailouts) on #16. Everything else in between has some trees, so you don't have any wide open tee shots, but you don't have to thread a needle on most holes. There's also a good variety of hole shapes, many are straight but the left and rights are mixed in as well.
Some of the more interesting holes are:
#4 - 188'/294' downhill tunnel shot, with a low ceiling of tree branches puts a premium on a straight, low fast drive to get down to the basket.
#5 - 580'/876' Par 5 is the longest on the course, the mostly open tee shot needs to turn right, then scattered trees to bisect while turning left to the basket on the left.
I checked #7 as my favorite hole (there you go dgaficianado), you actually step up a rise to the tee, then a downhill tee shot, a couple of large trees to miss on either side in the middle of the fairway, then back uphill to the basket, protected by a string of large trees that you have to beat. It plays 425'/555' for a Par 4, but the trees to beat on your 2nd shot requires a well played shot.
#11 has a fairly tight tee shot to open grass, then the fairway goes into the woods, about a 20' gap and curving downhill through the woods to the basket. This wooded fairway has a wide variety of trees that you have to split to get to the basket after 431'/506'.
#12-#14 play on somewhat of a sidehill, so you have to be careful to control your landing.
#17 is one of the more unusual holes I've played and has the most elevation change on the course. The tees are in the open across grass, then as the hillside rises, the vegetation begins and you have to negotiate a 80-85 degree fairway turn to the left and up. You can throw straight and have the largest entry, but its also the longest path to the basket. There are scattered trees and palm bushes to the left, but a shorter path to the basket. Then it continues uphill through a couple of tunnels to the basket. A very unique, challenging hole.
Bill Frederick Turkeynator is definitely one of the best courses right in the Orlando area. I haven't had a chance to play any of the courses west and northwest of Orlando, but this and River City Alpha deserve their high ratings. The number of interesting holes, beautiful scenery and excellent equipment make this a must play in Orlando.
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Moose33
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Experience: 12.3 years 212 played 209 reviews
4.00 star(s)

T2-Come with me if you want to par 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 26, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

I played T2 directly after playing the original Turkey Lake course and I have to say in many ways it was most impressive.

You begin just 30-40 yards from the T1 course and has the same benefits of the nice parking area/bathroom and bottle filling fountain nearby.

The pads are mainly concrete and you will see Blue/White/Red/Green on almost every hole and Gold pro pads on a few. Great signs that are very detailed and have next tee signs color coded to the tee you are playing on.

You start on a technical par 4 which sets the tone for the course. The map made me think it was more open after the initial gap, but that wasn't the case. It's tight all the way down and the woods claimed my Outlaw.

The course winds through the woods and grassy fields of this beautiful park taking you into contact with the lake at one point for a 300ft water carry on hole 16.

The hole shapes are greatly varied needing a lot of different shots and styles to play it optimally. I felt the original course was easily attacked with mainly a Firebird and Roc type disc, this one needs a whole bag, which I didn't have especially after hole 1.

There are a lot of thoughtful touches here that I felt like added to its mystique. The red and blue veteran baskets, easily visible from the road and through the woods as well as the color coded tee signs, and some of the colored carpets and pads and even a few colored pads it's got a cool feel.

Tons of huge and beautiful trees, amazing flora and fauna all around and an incredibly diverse mix of shot shapes.

Cons:

Cons are few but it's not perfect, pretty flat and the flow is not as easy to follow as T1. It had some long walks between holes and you cross over walks to other holes several times.

Pretty flat, even more so that T1, and only really uses the water on one hole(but uses it very well).

Not a lot of benches, which was odd to me. The white pads are mainly not concrete, usually carpet or similar. I played blue so that was not an issue for me however.

Other Thoughts:

Unless you have every shot in your bag, you end up playing for Par a lot out here and it's quite demanding. It's a physical round and took it out of me. Maybe it was because it was the second 18 in FL in July, but it seemed more demanding and I tried tee shots that I just don't do. Rollers, FH hyzerflips, it's a test, but a fun one and if I could only play one of the three Bill Fredrick courses again it would be this one.
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KenanFlagler01
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Experience: 14.1 years 195 played 190 reviews
4.00 star(s)

"I'll be back." 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 10, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

'T2: The Turkeynator" is located at the back of the park, right next to "T1: The Original." I think the ratings for all three courses are about right. I have the Woods Course at 2.5, T1 at 3.5, and T2 at 4.0. That has more to do with challenge than anything else. All three are well-designed and very fun, but without a doubt, T2 is the showcase course on the property. A) It's the most challenging. B) It has FIVE sets of tees. FIVE. Novice to Pro players have something to like here. C) Aesthetically, it's on par with T1, both way above average in terms of the most beautiful settings for disc golf I've played outside of the mountains.

+ I'm discovering that this is a personal pet peeve of mine: I hate it when courses label their layouts with color schemes that contradict the PDGA guidelines for Novice, Rec, Intermediate, Advanced, and Pro. Bill Frederick nails it with proper labeling for layouts on all three courses. There is a White (Intermediate) layout on each of the three courses. That's the layout I played. The Woods Course is the easiest of the three, T2 was the hardest, and T1 was in between, each one was appropriately labeled White/Intermediate and fell into the 880-930 rating range for a par round. To me, this is very helpful in comparing courses across the country and finding the best tracks to challenge you. T2 might be the best course I've ever played with multiple layouts.

Here are the layouts for each of the Bill Frederick courses:

> Woods Course: Red/Rec, White/Intermediate

> T1: Original Course: White/Intermediate, Blue/Advanced

> T2: The Turkeynator: Green/Novice, Red/Rec, White/Intermediate, Blue/Advanced, Gold/Pro

+ This is a terrifically designed course. There are par 4's, a par 5, all types of shots required and risk/reward elements. There is a water carry, other holes where the lake comes into play, and LOTS of holes where wind off the lake comes into play. Dogleg right, dogleg left, dead straight, landing zone to landing zone multi-shot holes, and even a few ace run holes. Tight and technical, long and wide open. T2 is off the charts. I brought my whole family to Orlando for a Universal vacation. We spent the last day at Turkey Lake. I would love to do the same trip again. Wouldn't change it. To quote Arnold, "I'll be back."

+ I picked up maps to all three courses at the front gate. They are helpful for navigating the courses. Without maps, there are places you can get lost, especially on T2. It has the longest walks in between holes of the three courses.

+ Good tee pads and signs marking the various layouts, with the hole layouts pictured along with the correct yardage. They did a terrific job with arrows and tee signs guiding you to the tee you're looking for. I've seen multi-layout courses done poorly where the navigational confusion isn't worth the multiple layouts. That is absolutely not the case here. It's not confusing at all, very easy to follow, and with five different layouts, if you can't find something to like here, I can't help you.

+ The challenge here is REAL. I felt beaten down at the end of the round. One word of advice: don't wait to play T2 last out of three rounds at Bill Frederick. It's a very challenging course, technically speaking in terms of the golf and physically. It will take the longest and requires the most steps. This is one of the most challenging courses I've played. Easily.

Cons:

- Hardly any elevation.

- Lots of ant hills scattered throughout the course. Watch your step.

- A few long walks in between holes (although the trade-off here is, the designers created the best disc golf holes they could...nothing is forced; I'd rather have terrifically designed holes with longer walks in between than the reverse).

- I played the White/Intermediate layout and was a little disappointed in some of the tees. A few are just tiny patches of concrete or other padding. The Red and Blue tees both seemed more consistent: full-length concrete pads. I'm guessing the White layout was added later and wasn't done quite as well.

- Beware of alligators!

Other Thoughts:

This is the must-play course in Orlando. For your next Central Florida vacation, make sure you reserve a day for Turkey Lake. And plan your other rounds at the Original Course and the Woods Course around T2: The Turkeynator.
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wellsbranch250
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Experience: 10.2 years 658 played 636 reviews
4.00 star(s)

One of Florida's Top Courses 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 15, 2017 Played the course:once

Pros:

(4.180 Rating) "This is going to be an awesome course." My first thoughts after arriving at tee (1) and looking down fairway...
- UNIQUENESS - Other than Elevation, this course is stacked with variety. Dog legs in both directions, tunnel shots, pocket shots and blind shots. There's a wonderful water clear on (16). There's one par 5, albeit fairly easy for pro players, and a couple of placement par 4's. There are opportunities to let one rip, and yet also times you'll need to make a precision putter ace run. If I had to call out a missing item it would be a parallel water feature, ie creek play. In addition, holes (12-15) all have the same run of mill feel and were void of any major defining features amongst those four holes.
- MULTI TEES - To date, T2 has the most amount of tees that I had ever seen to on a course. Green, Red, White, Blue and a few Gold as well. I am a big fan of this because it allows every type of player to have the opportunity to play at the appropriate skill level tees.
- CHARACTER - In addition to the tees, this course has just about all the other amenities that you'd expect of an established older course. At the parking and tee (1) area, there's a community board, porta-potty, water bottle station and two practice baskets. There is seating and bag hangers at many tees and most are shaded as well. Many of the holes have multiple basket placements. I really can't think of much to add other that perhaps a pin placement location peg at the tee area so you don't have to run down fairway to locate the basket location.
- CHALLENGING - Other than mid level pros and higher, every skill level will be able to push themselves here. I think your typical advanced player (950 rating) will average even, to a couple over from the gold/blue tees. Playing this level will require a combo of both length and precision on several holes and require the use of every shot in your bag. In addition, hole (16), is about a 350 foot water clear, so if you can't clear that, I'd suggest playing the whites or shorter.
- NATURAL BEAUTY - In general, I found T2 to be above average due to the diversity of the vegetation, lake views and the subtle terrain changes. However, when comparing this course to other top courses I've played, its not on the top tier. It appears that the area is/was going thru a major drought at the time of my visit and its really affecting the look and feel. Several trees appeared dead or dying and the course was extremely dry, sandy and dusty. The course really needs a good soaking. Obviously this is not the courses fault and it did not affect my rating.
- MAINTENANCE - The grounds were in really good condition despite the drought. Very little trash, grass height was in check, the overgrowth was not running away, and only a couple dead branches littered about.
- NAVIGATION - Be sure and request a map when you pay to enter. T2 jogs around a bit, and without a physical map or one downloaded to your phone, you'll end up confused a few times on first go around. The map is solid and it got me back on track every time I questioned my next move.
- EVENTS - This course is known to hold major tournaments in the region and state. So if you're into tournaments you'll want to schedule a weekend here.
- TWO MORE COURSES ON SITE - Can you really go wrong with 54 holes at one location?

Cons:

A great course with only ticky tack issues
- ELEVATION - Unless you only play Florida courses, you won't find the elevation changes here notable at all. Perhaps hole (11) drops 20 feet, but that's about it. However, for what elevation is available, Greg Hosfeld the course designer, did an excellent job incorporating it. I personally loved the ridge use on (17) and hole (4) is a wonderful sweeping slight 10 - 15 foot downward angle shot. Other than these noted holes, the rest change by less than 10 feet.
- DISCONTINUITY - It appears that ideal tee shots took precedence over adjacency. OK in my book, but expect several walks between holes over 200 feet. This is why I stress the importance of having a course map. There are numerous directional ques along the layout, but not enough for the clouded minds of many disc golfers.
- OPEN HOURS - The park closes at 7pm April thru October and closes at 5 pm the rest of the year. This makes after work rounds real tough to complete and there'd be no night golf.
- TIME PLAY - It took my friend and I well over 2 hours to complete this course and we never had to wait for other groups. So don't expect some quickie airport layover round here. If you are going for the angle, I'll suggest Airport Lakes.
- PAY TO PLAY - If you can't afford $2 to play this course, then you need to re-evaluate your priorities.

Other Thoughts:

One of the best courses I've ever played. It will put a smile on just about every player's face and I highly recommend checking it out if you're in the Orlando area. T2 briefly held the top spot on my personal list of top rated Florida courses, but it was dethroned by Tom Brown in Tallahassee 8 day later.
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galluni
Experience: 73 played 13 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 13, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

I played this course when visiting Florida, and I loved it. Great variety of holes and shots. Beautiful forests and fields. Challenging without being unfair.

Cons:

Some inconsistency with tee boxes -- not all holes have all colors.

Other Thoughts:

I hope to play it again someday.
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freddysez
Experience: 16 played 16 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Great Add on and Compliment 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 23, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course has it all; skillful holes in the woods that reward placement without being impossible, some length, the par 5 may be the toughest length hole I've ever played, and the wind can change holes and shots in the blink of an eye

Cons:

We played the wrong hole on 5 and ended up playing 8 twice, but fixed it and replayed. I think stating other cons is a stretch.

Other Thoughts:

The designers did it right and didn't try to over analyze their vision and kept this a true destination course just like the original
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Apsey
Experience: 66 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Love this park 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 20, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

-Beautiful park
-Offers par 4's and a par 5
-Requires placement shots
-Some elevation Changes
-Park works with club to keep the courses in great shape
-Camping and cabins available on site
-Two different courses to play on site
-Great tee pads
-Nice Baskets
-Offers variety of short and long pads

Cons:

-Gets pretty crazy stagnant hot in the summer time
-If you're a beginner this course may beat you up pretty good
-Costs a couple bucks to get into the park (only like a dollar or two I think)

Other Thoughts:

Always enjoy playing this course as well as T1. If you play this course a lot you will become a better player for sure. Looking forward to my next round there.
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Peter S
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 29.9 years 165 played 32 reviews
4.00 star(s)

I love T2! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jan 15, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Like T1, T2 has some long distance holes to air it out. However, also has a more diverse mix of lightly wooded holes. A few holes such as 17 play up while 4 and 5 plays down some hills for a bit of elevation which is rare on most Florida courses. Great water carry on 16 "Crusher Cove" is challenging and scenic and sure to be a signature hole. Another signature hole has got to be #5 called The Long and Winding Road. With a name like that I have to try a roller.

Not as busy as the free Gordon Barnett park due to the small enterance fee.

Cement tee pads for all skill levels red - gold, bag holders, benches on a number of holes and tee signs at most tees.

Restrooms close by parking area.

Cons:

Sometimes other park users in your way but that's not the courses fault.

Beer drinking is not permitted in the park to try and cut down on litter. If you decide to go on the down low, please do not litter and pack out all empty beer cans.

Other Thoughts:

All holes have numbers but also names which makes the holes very memorable for me. With T1 and T2 together this park has a lot to offer and I would say a excellent 2 course punch.
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thrembo
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Premium Member
Experience: 48.9 years 242 played 195 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Buckle Up! 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 1, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

This is a truly fun and scenic course, with old trees, a large lake and featuring central Florida style rolling hills.

Two sets of tee pads (three if you count the green set) that are large and grippy. Signs at each tee that show hole layout and distance. Very nice bag hangers.

Nice baskets.

Plenty of picnic tables, pavilions, benches, garbage cans, and restrooms.

Very clean, and highly maintained course.

A well-established league, that hosts some of the biggest tournaments in FL. Very friendly locals that I'm guessing are used to seeing out-of-towners on their courses.

A good mix of hole lengths, with some bombs for the big guns!

Cons:

The navigation can be a little tricky. GET THE MAP/scorecard when you pay to enter the park. There are some long walks between some of the holes.

Watch out for non-DGers wandering around and through the course.

Other Thoughts:

This course is set in a spectacular park, that features another 18 hole DG course on site, with camping, fishing, events, a children's farm area, etc.

Both of the courses at Turkey Lake are must plays and some of the best in Florida, but I prefer the original course here myself. It's more scenic, funner to play, and is more refined IMO.
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blueblur
Experience: 35.8 years 196 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

One of the best courses in Orlando 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 15, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Challenging course with multiple pin positions and pads. Great tee signs. Designed by Gregg Hosfeld, one of the best designers in the country. Uses water, trees and the limited elevation changes available, to great effect. Bring your A game, especially from the long pads.

Cons:

Lots of walking near low mph park roads with speed bumps. Throwing near some of these roads also, but not a major factor and low traffic. Pay to get into park. Due to very limited space, alternate pin positions are usually not very different from each other, but still a plus overall.

Other Thoughts:

Most challenging course in the Orlando area.
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sloppydisc
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.4 years 201 played 147 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Did anybody see #8? 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 13, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 holes in a very nice large park with fishing, camping, playgrounds and lots of paved trails. Just a really nice place. 3 sets of tee for each hole, and signs at Blue and Red tee pads. Signs give distances and hole layout. There is also some signs to aid in navigation. More on that later.

Mostly technical course with tight lines and low ceilings. From the blue tees there is also some long holes and open fields. #5 plays to the tune of 876' from the blue. There are also holes in the low 200' range so hole length variety is pretty good.

This is course is the big brother, or mean step father of the other course on site. The landscape is similar for both, but T2 has thicker more punishing rough, tighter lines and more line shaping needed to succeed. This course should have enough challenge for the best of players.

T2 also utilizes the lake, and has a nice water carry on #16. From the blues the hole is 390' with a water carry that seems about 300'. From the red it makes it about a 100' shorter hole. The basket is then surrounded by a bunch of mature trees. Cool hole.

Cons:

Navigation. Make sure you get a map from the booth when you pay. BUT, even with the map I never found hole 8! Heck, it wasn't even on the map. And I walked by 18 to get to 9. Just a strange, wandering layout to this course.

There were a few holes where I couldn't figure out an obvious line to the basket. Might be me, or my lack of FL playing experience. My only guess is that huge sky hyzers and OHs are big here. Probably more experience on the course would clear things up for me or other players.

It's Florida so there really isn't elevation to speak of.

Other Thoughts:

I really enjoyed this course. It hurt me in a few spots, but it had lots of great looking technical holes with cool tunnels and low ceilings. There might be a few too many low ceiling shots for some, but in the summer heat all that shade was welcomed. This course is definitely a must play if you are the Orlando area. With 2 courses on site and multiple tee pads on both there is just a lot of good golf here. The park is pristine, and there are also lots of other activities close by. $2 for the park entry fee is a no brainer for this type of facility.

And for the locals, I left a nice Opto River up in the tree behind the short pad on 5. That will be my small donation to the lucky person that walks by after a big storm or high winds. Enjoy.
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fictionfree
Experience: 15.8 years 13 played 9 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Best course in Orlando area 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 5, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

-Really awesome design
-Challenging holes with "landing zones" that set you up for your second (sometimes third) shot
-Long course is a great workout for experienced players
-Good signage, trash cans and benches throughout
-Textured concrete tees
-Multiple tees
-Great balance of right, left, long, short, air and roller shots
-Most important - a fun course to play, that takes advantage of what little rolling terrain is available

Cons:

-13, 14 and 15 are basically all the same hole (low-ceiling, straight shot with basket slightly to left) - in such close proximity, it gets monotonous (though I LOVE those low ceiling shots - moving the baskets around to mix it up would fix the monotony)
-$4 per car to get in the park might seem like a minus to some people, but honestly this course and its sister course are worth the money - plus there is a ton of other stuff to do here, fishing, farm for kids, camping, picnicking, trails, etc.

Other Thoughts:

-Played this course several years ago and didn't enjoy it at all - long and monotonous - but just played a week ago and was veryimpressed with the changes - new baskets, new holes, deletion of some old lame holes, and addition of concrete tees and clear signage - don't miss this fun course in the greater MCO area!

-Not a con, but a warning - 16 blue tee is a long drive over the water - plan on losing a disc if you aren't on top of your drive - with my wet noodle arm, I play from the red tee
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RussMB
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Premium Member
Experience: 19.5 years 131 played 110 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Yang of the Bill Frederick Courses 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Dec 28, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Very Scenic and well maintained State Park ($2 per person/$4 per car to enter) Ask for a Map when you pay.

-This course is a lot more challenging than the original course.

-Course has a rolling terrain that plays near a very scenic lake *This is relative to where you are coming from. Most of the coastal Florida courses are Flat, so someone from Tampa would call this terrain Rolling. Someone from Tennessee would probably consider this flat.

-Nice restrooms at the start. Look for the big building on the right as you approach the teeing area in the parking lot.

-Garbage cans and disc golf signs through out the park

-Close to Universal Studios, but Disney is a little bit of a drive. (In case you are vacationing)

-Colored (Blue, Red & Green) Concrete Tee's to address the multiple Tee locations, Tee signs with Maps & Distance.

-The original Turkey Lake Course and the T2 course start back to back.

-Narrow fairway shots, more use of the trees, terrain and canopies, also has a water carry.

-Fewer lines to choose from, but more finesse is require when it comes to shot shaping here.

-Fair mix of right/left handed shots. Turnover shots, and straight forward long distance shots. Some shots will require you to set up a second shot.

-The blue tees are more pro, while the reds are for the standard player. I wouldn't call this a beginner friendly course, but the green tees do cater to those with underdeveloped arms. Perhaps those wanting to take a swing at it after playing T1.

FWIW

-You are going to see some roped off areas for Gopher Tortoises! Very Cool!

-There are a ton of activities here! If you have a spouse, friend or family member that is wants to watch your kids, then there are a bunch of activities they could do while you get to play a couple rounds here. From Playgrounds to a Farm, there is plenty to do here.

-Camping and Cabin rentals on site as well.

Cons:

-Though there are signs, sometimes it's easy to get turned around. Which leads to my next points...

-The course flow is broken between 3 & 4 and 7&8. You'll want to pay attention to where you are going. I walked the wrong way to get to 4, and ended up finding 4's basket before I found the tee.

- I also got turned around looking for 8. It wasn't listed on the park's map. It's listed, but there is no number and I wandered around a bit looking for it. It is, however, listed on the map on this site, you may want to check it for reference if you can.

-9 is a stretch from the parking lot, it's close but not convenient. It is also a long walk to the parking lot from 18. (These are really small things, and it is what it is. After playing two courses, you tend to notice it)

-You have to play along a fenced in area of an RV Campground. It may be a pain to have to retrieve your disc if it goes over.

-There is a walking trails that run throughout the course. You'll want to look before you through!

Other Thoughts:

T2 definitely exceeded my expectations! When you can honestly say you had a great time while getting frustrated, then the course has done its job. This course is definitely the Yang of the two courses. It's challenging, but not obnoxious. It requires more specific lines and will push you to be more controlled. You'll work around trees and bushes, as well as fence lines. Add in a few terrain changes, and the challenge becomes more demanding. All that and a 350ft water carry (from the blues) at 16. (240ft from the reds) The layout is definitely well thought out and specific. It's definitely worth your time to stop and play if you are in the area. Just set aside some time so you can take it all in.

These two courses are well worth the cost of admission. I played both courses in about 3.5 hours. This one took me about an hour and a half, playing solo. If you are going to play both, then I would recommend playing the original course first. It'll help get your arm loosened up. I didn't see any gas stations in the immediate vicinity, but it is Orlando. There are plenty of restaurants within a few miles. Any type of shoes and shorts will be fine here. You may have to fight with some thorny weeds on the fringes, but overall you should be fine.
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bcr123psu
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.8 years 85 played 64 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Turkey with Gravy 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 29, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Bill Frederick Park: T2-The Turkeynator isn't hard to find. There are signs on the interstate and all over the area pointing you to its location. Once in the park, there is plenty of signage to direct you to the disc golf courses. The park and lake serve as a beautiful setting for disc golf.

The course features a lot of variety with regard to fairway layout, shapes/doglegs, and hole lengths. The course is fairly tree lined, but there are still penty of open holes and a good mix of both open and wooded holes with different playing surfaces, including grass, leaves, dirt, wood chips, and sand. Water is factored into the course design and is especially prevelant on hole #16 where you have a 200' or 300' (depending on the tee) drive across Turkey lake to a fast green...risk vs. reward indeed.

Multiple tees are present on every hole and offer a different playing experience from each position. Most of the tees are concrete and painted or stained their associated color and are in great shape. The baskets at the course are in good condition.

The tee signs are professional and do a great job of depicting the fairway shape, par, and each tee. Additionaly, the baskets include different colored electrical tape to point to the tee of the accompanying color. Even if that wasn't enough, there are direction and other navigational signs to get you to the next tee.

Another conveinence at this park is the restroom, located next to the parking area near holes #1 and #10.

Cons:

While playing any course located in a multi-use park, caution must be exercised. On a few holes, the fairways played close to other public areas and is a hair too dangerous for my liking.

Despite the variety of fairway shapes, there is little variation in elevation.

A few of the holes play fairly close to a fenced in RV park. A shaked throw could easily end up over the fence and may be difficult to retrieve.

A few longer walks from basket to the next tee are required, but nothing terribly long or terribly inconvenient.

Other Thoughts:

Being a bit longer and more dynamic than the other course on site, if you had to pick only one of the Bill Frederick courses, I'd pick this one for sure. That said, they're both a fun play.

The limited hours of operation make it a bit less convenient than other courses, but the 9-11 hours that the course is open should give plenty of time to play more than a round or two.

The $2 or $4 you may spend to play this course is well worth it and is actually a bargain in the pay-to-play world. I really enjoyed playing T2 and I think most other golfers would too. The next time I'm in Orlando with time to kill, you can bet that I'll be giving this course another rip and I recommend it for anybody else that might be considering playing here.
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badams
Experience: 33.9 years 73 played 9 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A grind! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 12, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Every shot required, back hand, flicks, rollers...

multiple ways of attacking the pin on most holes, some very good risk reward on drives and approaches from distance.

Nice to see some par 5's and 4's

Secluded from the other course and no interference from other park users.

multiple tees lending dramatic changes in difficulty to the course.

A championship caliber course in Central Florida is nice, there are a ton of advanced level courses.

Cons:

Sugar sand and lots of it.

Aside from hole 16 it is not anything to look at, I found the course asthetically unappealling. Hole 16 is absolutely beautiful though!

A couple of dollars to get in the park but two nice couses are worth it

Other Thoughts:

Although I am true advanced player I find the challenge of Champ caliber courses fun. I played this course most recently with an old friend of my brother's: 87' world champ Greg Hosfeld. It was educational watching a 1000 + rated player approach the course and manage his game. I call this review a grind because thats exactly what it felt like, the course is long and difficult from the blue tees and getting around in par felt like an accomplishment for me.

very much worth playing!
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jkdisc
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.6 years 117 played 110 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Turkeynator: I'll be back! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 13, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course and the entire park is beautifully manicured. The park has 2 courses on site and I enjoyed this course the best. There are 3 tee positions with big, nice pads! A great course mixed with great scenery is really what I needed after the bustle of Disney.

Other Pros:
- easy to navigate with "next T" signs in confusing spots
- great use of the land including obstacles, water, and some elevation
- great tee signs
- mixed terrain (mulch, grass, sand, dirt)
- 3 tees makes play challenging for all levels
- camping on site

I really liked the walk past the rare Gopher Tortoise's home that was roped off.

Cons:

The 2$ fee per person or 4$ per car fee isn't really a con, because you will get your money's worth.

Other Cons:
- closes at 5pm
- locals needed to point me to the 1st tee

Other Thoughts:

As I said the fee is really worth it especially if you are bringing the family. There is tons for them to do including a playground and a pool.

My favorite hole is 16 because you are throwing over water but you need to throw a higher due to the reeds that are reaching out and trying to grab your disc.

Don't miss this park if you're in the area, it was the highlight of my Orlando trip!
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JSurmann
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.7 years 76 played 28 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Orlando Magic! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Dec 10, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

To start, there are multiple concrete tee pads on each hole, blues for the big guns, reds for the smaller arms and green for the beginner. Some holes have red and green together. The tee pads are huge. By far the biggest I have seen on a course and most widen as you go forward. No running off the edge of the pads here!

Baskets are in fair condition and a few have a bit of weathering but nothing that really detracts from their main objective of catching discs. I suppose in the humid Florida air, this is common.

A map is given to you at the gatehouse if you ask for one but really isn't a great one. Tee signs on the other hand are well designed and have distances for each tee on the sign. Direction arrows on the baskets point you in the general direction of the next tee.

Course was very well groomed, fairways were mulched where they needed to be and grass was kept to a reasonable height. The flow for 9 brings you back to where you started as well as 18. A lot of the "greens" were sand which meant for very few roll away shots. Don't try to count on many skip shots on this course.

Many trash cans and benches are placed around the course and it was free of litter. A very clean place to play. It also had restrooms and drinking fountains at the beginning.

Use of many shots were required to succeed here. Elevation, what little change there was, was used effectively. One in particular was a downhill anhyzer through trees which was a real challenge. Then the bombing hole where the blue was 800'+ and the red was 500'+ that had trees and shrubs strategically placed right after landing zones it seemed like made for a great long hole.. The palm trees ate a few of my discs but none were lost in the trees. Throwing over water on 16 should have been an easy hyzer but the cattails grabbed my disc into the muck.

This place is an animal lovers delight. From the horses and cows at the children's farm, to the many birds, to the wild tortoise (which was my favorite), to the geese and swans on the lake, this has it all.

Cons:

I couldn't find the first tee. From the map I was given I couldn't even tell where to begin looking. This is a mixed use park so be aware of other walkers, children and the elderly as there is a motorhome park on site as well.

Other Thoughts:

Camping on site and not crowded when I went on a Friday at noon. That really surprised me. Be sure to tell the people at the gatehouse you're there to play disc golf (they spell it "disk" golf on the signs) and they will give you a map and general directions. The locals there are very nice and let us play through when we caught up.

I will be certain to play the other Turkey course next time.

Watch where you step so you don't squash a tortoise!
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ZMan44
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 20.1 years 179 played 110 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Nice course...but slightly disappointed. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 4, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Turkeynator is a lengthy course requiring challenging shots. Execution is crucial in order to score well. Hole variation is exceptional: both distance-wise and shape-wise.

The land is used exceptionally well. What elevation the land could provide is used adequately.

As with the othert course, the groundskeeping is immaculate. Fairways are clean and mowed. I did not see the first evidence of trash on the course.

Baskets and signs were all in excellent condition. The directional markers were a big help. This course had multiple tees on a lot of the holes which makes it fun for all skill levels. The shorter tees often had different angles making it a solid challenge as well.

I think the long hole needs to be mentioned. At a lot of courses I have played, there will be a random 800 feet long open hole so that people associated with the course can brag "We have a 800+ ft. hole". Most of these holes are long simply for the sake of being long. The long hole at this course was much different. You could easily see the desired landing zones and small bushes strategicall hindered certain shots. It was a well-designed long hole, and I haven't seen that very often.

Cons:

As I mentioned in my review of the Original Course, the terrain was my biggest problem. This course was slightly worse because there are a few areas were smaller trees have been removed to create fairways. Many small stumps were left which make easy tripping hazards.

Some of the tee pads were cracked but, again, this is due to the type of terrain. The presence of sand interspersed with compacted dirt makes finding a solid foundation for the pads difficult.

Other Thoughts:

The Turkeynator is a solid, challenging course.
Strangely, I scored the exact same on this course as the other course which was not very challenging. I just happened to get on a roll on this course.

While the course is a nice course, I feel as if its overall grade is a little inflated. It is supposed to be one of the top 5 in Florida. I live in Nashville, Tennessee. I am not associated with any club or certain course. I have played many courses throughout the region. There are 3 courses within 20 minutes of my home that I consider better than this course. I think Turkeynator qualifies as an "excellent" course, but anything above that is a stretch. I was a little disappointed, but my expectations may have been to high as well.

In short, the Turkeynator is an excllent course having a good mix of challenge and fun. But in my opinion, you may want to temper your expectations before putting it on your "wish list".
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culinarywiz
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 35.7 years 309 played 67 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Long, tough course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 2, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very challenging

Great length's. Nice long course

Diverse angles. Not just right and left. The ceiling came into play on many holes.

Multiple concrete pads

Cons:

A bit difficult to navigate

Other Thoughts:

This course caught me off guard. It was unlike the other courses I had played in many different ways. Obviously, being from the mid-west, I was not used to the blaring heat and humidity. Throw in the sand, fire ants and roaming wild tortoise's and I felt a bit out of place. I can tell you this...I loved every minute of it!

This course is challenging but not frustrating. There are multiple pads so you can shorten the course if you are lacking time or patience. Many of the holes clearly call for strategic first and second shots. I love courses that check your willingness to play controlled golf. Even still, I used distance drivers off of many tee's. I recommend relatively under-stable/controllable distance drivers if you do so.

There are no true wide open shots...although many of the shots from pad give you room to huck it.

There are, however, a few truly tight holes.

That is what I love about this course. It's very diverse. I needed every disc in my bag. There were bomber holes, but also some deuce opportunities and ace runs as well.

Most of the "cake holes" came in the back nine. There is a stretch of a few holes in the back that basically kept this course from being truly exceptional. They were pitch and put style holes...but I assure you, there were only a few. Hole 16 was my favorite hole on the course. It was a water shot over what seemed like 300 feet of lake. Making the shot 300 feet wasn't my main concern...it was not getting knocked down by the many trees that lined the shore. Your shot had to land low or right on target. That's disc golf baby!

I wish I would have had time to play the Original Course here a Turkey Lake. I 'm sure I will be back in Orlando to play it within the next couple years.
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pastorfrf
Experience: 14.5 years 8 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Tough but enjoyable course. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 16, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Love the scenery and layout. Yeah, you hike a bit between holes but its nice and it gives you time to talk to your competitors.

Cons:

None...really. As a beginner...I love the tough parts of this course.

Other Thoughts:

The other amenites are nice...the front office has a nice selection of discs and bags, bathrooms readily available and my kids loved the play ground...they even rent cabins for like $35 a night.
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