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HyooMac
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Experience: 6.8 years 419 played 387 reviews
3.00 star(s)

A Good Course, Overgrown

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 15, 2023 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

There's a good layout here: a shorter, heavily wooded complement to Brakewell Steel, but the overgrowth of trees, bushes and weeds really affects the experience. The pictures from 2010 and 2012 give no idea of how much tighter all the lines have become. It appears that Wolfe does not fall under the purview of the Warwick Town Park maintenance operation, and is dependent on volunteer time for its upkeep. It was especially frustrating to be hacking through bushes and weeds while hearing the giant tractors mowing the nearby Brakewell Steel fairways



+ Entering the course through the wooden arch, and then playing the first few holes reminded me of the 3rd nine holes at Sedgley Woods: "I'm going on an adventure in the forest!"


+ There are some great holes using the water hazard of the creek. Some have water short, some long, some both short and long. There's a fair amount of elevation (land sloping down to the creek) and thick woods will catch and kill any wild throws. Every one of these holes requires a plan: Risk? Reward? Bail out? Birdie?


+ The section that doesn't have water (11 - 16) has deep woods, elevation, and a good mix of right-to-left and left-to-right lines. Nothing's long or open enough to really challenge a big arm, but the course requires a ton of control. You'll find yourself leaning on touch and stall shots to land in birdie territory

Cons:

- I timed my revisit to play only a few weeks after a Spring cleanup, but there was still a lot of low growth, and some bushes and trees that have grown in to narrow the original throwing lines


- Some paver and some rubber tees, but many "natural" (dirt) - and a few of those on the back nine are uneven and covered in roots, making for standstill teeshots that require 200'+. Tee signs are adequate, but faded and a few are missing


- The Blue tees are mostly natural and many are so overgrown that they're hard to find or to play from. You'd do much better to forget about them and play from the Silvers

Other Thoughts:

~ A rugged hike through the woods; not even slightly cart-friendly


~ The creek looms on so many holes. It's obscured by elevation changes, it snakes around - and you probably can't see it from tees any time except the dead of winter - if you can't see your landing zone...walk forward and check. You'll thank me later


~ If you don't take the time to walk forward on holes as advised, the one hole to do so is #15. You're throwing blind out of a wooded chute over a relatively open valley, and the basket is up on a far hillside to the right. A high RH hyzer over the bushes in the distance will put you in C1 - an easy shot that's not at all obvious unless you know where the basket is


~ Navigation has been improved by nailing white metal diamonds to strategic trees. They get you going in the right direction (most connections are made on narrow wooded trails). The only place I missed directional signage was the longish walk from 2 to 3, but felt like I was being helped the rest of the course. This is a big improvement from when I played it a few years ago


~ If you can look past the overgrowth, Wolfe Woods is spectacular to view. On a day in May when everything is lush and green, it was like playing in a secret preserve: felt like playing through a hidden garden on #3, and a little-known fishing stream on #7


~ Standing on many of the tees, you can't really get a sense of basket location, landing zones, etc. This is a course best played by people who've already played this course


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PuzzledGuy
Experience: 8 played 7 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Bonus play at Brakewell Steel! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 5, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Fun course adjacent to Brakewell Steel. Played the short tees, so all comments are based on that. Plays through the woods, requiring you to bring your technical skills. Good use of terrain, trees, and water to create a challenging course requiring you to shape your shots. Lots of birdie opportunities! Decent signs at most holes.

Cons:

Not always easy to find your way through this course. Generally, good signage at the tees once you find them. Lots of broken down chairs and benches at holes - can look a bit trashy. Looked at a few of the long tees, and they were a bit rough.

Other Thoughts:

I wasn't sure about this course, but I can highly recommend it. It pales a bit in comparison to Brakewell Steel, but it's a fun change of pace and definitely worth playing. Lots of opportunities to be optimistic that can easily be crushed by the woods. I'll be playing this course again when I return to Warwick!
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KVandy66
Experience: 9 years 5 played 4 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Could be really cool 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 10, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

It's a heavily wooded course, which can be cool
There's a fine line between heavily wooded, and simply overrun by brush
The holes are very cool, elevation is a factor which is always fun
There's one hole that you literally throw over a giant drop off for your opening toss, that's really cool.
There's a water hazard creek running through a few of the holes, so variety wise, it's a good course.

Cons:

Needs signage, I found myself wandering with my friends trying to find the next hole in more than one occasion
One off throw, and you're fighting prickers to get your disc, or crossing a river that's in OB territory
SO MUCH TRASH EVERYWHERE!!!
A course map at the beginning would be greatly appreciated
For the life of us, we couldn't find hole 18, it was getting dark, so we called it quits.

Other Thoughts:

Definitely inferior to the normal Warwick park course, but it's a challenge and an interesting change of pace if you want to give it a shot.
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Lance Philip
Experience: 9.1 years 7 played 4 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Not bad, but could be better. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 20, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

The holes are set up well with a good line of sight to most baskets. Wolfe Woods presents a real challenge due to some heavily wooded areas with some holes having various degrees of water to navigate around. It's a fun course and the elevations are manageable even if you aren't in the best shape. It's a great alternative to the main course in the park.

Cons:

Missing tee box signs on many holes. When we were their all the trash cans were overflowing and there was a lot of garbage along the side of the tee boxes. I found that some of the natural tee pads had large rocks embedded in them so I had to be careful with my footwork not to trip. The thing that made me nuts was the lack of signs pointing to the next tee at the end of the holes. The 16th hole is really confusing because there are 3 paths there, only one takes you to the 17th. The worst part of all is the fact that you have you cross over 2 other holes almost completely back to the beginning of the course.

Other Thoughts:

First off this course was in rough shape with every garbage can overflowing with trash. Many of the tee box signs were missing. As far as how the course plays, it's a true challenge with trees on every hole and water coming into play on many of them. The course is fun but the layout is a bit confusing at times so finding the next tee box can be difficult. This is true after the 16th hole. To get to the 17th hole you have to walk across two other holes almost back to the start. It also slightly meets up with the main course. Overall I'm giving it a B- but if it were cleaned up a bit, replaced the missing signs and added more arrows directing you to the next tee I would give it a 4 rating. Wolfe Woods is extremely challenging and will be remain fun whenever it's played. With all the woods in full bloom it is tough in Spring/Summer but will probably play very differently in Fall/Winter.
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sidewinder22
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.8 years 302 played 198 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Winston Wolfe's Pulp Fiction 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 5, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 holes over moderate elevation changes with multiple tees and pin placements on most holes. Some great basket placements and use of the creek. Mostly tight and wooded and short although there are a couple more open holes that still have great challenge from elevation changes or shaped by wood line/shrubs. Tee signs are ok. Trash cans and benches. Bathrooms up by the playground.

Cons:

Tee types are mixed from rubber to gravel to dirt. Navigation for first timers is pretty bad even with the map, there are paths leading every which direction in places. The whole course is tucked into the woods behind the Animal course around hole 14/15, you will see the big wooded sign for Wolfe Woods. The rough is fairly rough in the summer and there is a fair amount of poison ivy on this course. Disc loss is more possible on this course than it's big brother.

Other Thoughts:

If I'm curt with you in this review it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you want get the most out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Play this course with map in hand to warm up for the Animal course, or to introduce beginners to the game, or to have a little fun and work on your short game in the woods.
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DSCJNKY
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.7 years 690 played 132 reviews
3.00 star(s)

If Only I was a Local 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 12, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Great Little Technical Course. Wolfe Woods is a great little Roc/Putter/occasional driver course. I really enjoy these kinds of courses where all you need to do is throw shots you should make (if you're an advanced player). It's great practice, and it's fun to get birdies. Plus, this course would be a great course for beginning level players to cut their teeth on and get their game up before playing Brakewell Steel, although the opportunity to lose discs would be more prevalent.
- The Creek. There is a fantastic winding creek that flows throughout the course, creating some wonderful shots and dangerous greens. It was definitely the highlight of the course. It also added to the aesthetic value of the holes and course in general.
- 2 Ways to Play. There were long and short tees on the Wolfe Woods course (if I remember correctly the silver and the blues). Having played 2 other courses that day, I opted to play the shorter of the two.
- Brakewell Steel. I cannot imagine what it would be like to have Warwick Park's courses as my home courses... not only would I have the tighter, technical, mid-range game Wolfe Woods offers, but I would have the long, championship game that Brakewell offers too... allowing me to completely develop my skills.

Cons:

- Navigation. I have played tons of courses, in tons of places, usually by myself, and usually without a map... and I rarely get lost or turned around. However, somehow I skipped a few holes, in a few different locations, along the way... and since I had already golfed a lot that day, I wasn't entirely concerned with going back to find the holes.

Other Thoughts:

- It's Not Brakewell. Probably the biggest issue with Wolfe Woods is that you'd rather be playing the other course on the other side of the park. It's hard to take Wolfe Woods seriously when you just got done playing its MUCH bigger brother (and Joralemon earlier that day). It's kind of like when I played Pyramids after leaving Maple Hill... I kept thinking about how I'd rather be playing Maple Hill. However, if I was a local, I would be all over Wolfe Woods, as I'm sure beating your arm to death playing Brakewell would get old.
- Overall... How great it would be to have Warwick be your home park? You'd have a great tuner course in Wolfe Woods and an amazing championship level course in Brakewell Steel. In reality, for me, Wolfe Woods was just an opportunity to bag an extra course in NY. I had already played Joralemon and Brakewell that day and was fairly worn out. I took a putter, roc and leopard with me and just tried to trudge through. I actually enjoyed the course, mostly due to the creek running through it, but also because it was fairly demanding in its shot requirements (considering). Somehow, I got lost and skipped a few holes, getting mixed up between the longs and shorts and some of the crossover that happens between the blue and silver layouts. I was too tired to go back, and was happy enough to have played enough of the course to check it off the list - my mind was elsewhere anyway: Brakewell Steel.
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forehandfranz
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 31.9 years 226 played 128 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Wolfe "Creek" 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 25, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course plays off the edge of Warwick (there is a beautiful sign and wood benches off Warwick's #16) that will let you know where it starts). Most of the holes have two tee pads that will give you a two levels of play (Am and pro). The signs and the direction arrows are really helpful to let you know where you are throwing and where the tees are located (I would have been really confused otherwise).

This course is challenging in many ways. A creek winds through the first half of the course and lends to skillful placement of shots. Just as you are tiring of the water, it disappears. It's a technical and woody affair for the most part with a decent amount of elevation mixed in.

It was also less crowded than the Warwick course on a Sunday afternoon.

Cons:

Tee pads are gravel or rubber. It was wet when I played and they became slippery, and even the rubber ones had enough mud and dirt on them to add to slippage.

Lots of extra walking to get to many of the pro tee pads, and its not always clear where to go (even with the signs to help). Finding the 17th tee was very unclear with no arrows and a very long trail to get there (just go left from 16 pin and go past #15 blue tee and keep going).

Other Thoughts:

I am anxious to try the short tees next time as they would be a way to work with the midranges and be a lot less walking.
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prerube
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Premium Member
Experience: 16.9 years 275 played 236 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Decent course away from th crowds. 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 13, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Wooded course with dual tee pads and excellent signage.

Great place to hide from crowds on the main course.

Red baskets are easy to see.

Plays around the creek on many holes.

Benches on many holes.

The first third of the course is the best part. Hole 4's downhill shot over the creek is probably the best of the first 6 holes, but hole 6 gives it some competition with a scenic shot around the winding creek. There are a few interesting holes with great potential in the back half, but they are in rough shape.
Lots of shade and decent scenery.

Cons:

It is worth the trek back up the hill to play 7 blue. 7 silver is horrible. The tee is directly behind a tree with the no clear shot in front of you, but a perfect fairway just to the left of the tee. The tee itself is full of sharp rocks and roots sticking up. I would always opt for blue over silver, especially when 7 blue is a nice over the valley shot.

Tee pads are inconsistent, some are wrinkled warped rubber, some are gravel, some are dirt, but most are uneven and difficult to use.

In the back 9 the rough was getting out of control, the vegetation was overgrown and I went from wanting to throw multiple discs on the first few holes to wanting to skip holes entirely due to the waist high foliage. Holes 9, 10, 12, 13, 16, and 17 were all in need of maintenance.

Flow was not nearly as nice as Warwick Brakewell Steel's Animal course. After hole 5 you pop out at hole 7 blue. After you play 6 you have to climb a steep hill to get back to 7 blue. There were a few long walks, but the walk to 17 seemed to cut back through half the course.

Other Thoughts:

This is a nice addition to the Animal course, but it is overgrown and the tee pads are very rough and nearly unusable.
It is a no brainer that this is worth a play if you are coming to play the Animal course, but it is not worth a trip by itself.
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Vepr
Experience: 16.1 years 50 played 2 reviews
3.00 star(s)

A Nice Compliment. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:May 20, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

-The course is quite challenging filled with a lot of variety for a wooded course.
-The stream is utilized extremely well with the overall course design to make it very interesting. Streams sometimes protect the greens, run along side a fairway, or you must tee off over one.
-Hole 12 is an awesome hole.Its sort of on a little cliff where you can go either right or left. Going right is a tight little uphill shot that suddenly drops off to the basket. Going left is a downhill drive that eventually gently curves up to the basket. Two different extremes on one hole!
-Hole 15 has an interesting tee off from high up on one hill, then proceeds into a valley and then up another hill to the basket.
-It is well-thought out and does not grow mundane. Each hole is always different.

Cons:

-Definitely needs signs to help pinpoint blind baskets because the fairways can be misleading.
-The course isn't quite broken in so it is a bit of a haul. After a while tall grass and weeds get in the way and become annoying and take away some joy from the course. Although you have to consider it is a difficult piece of land to mow/maintain considering how its in a wetlandish, secluded area.
-Discs are very easy to lose. I had 3 other friends with me helping spot for throws and we lost discs 3 times (lucky we found 2 of them after 20 minutes of searching, desperately may i add).
-It is very hard to navigate. My friends and I forgot to print a map and we definitely regret it. The walk from hole 16 to hole 17 is on a pathway that splits into 5 different options! And the next tee sign does not help because it doesn't have an arrow.
-Watch out for fallen down barb wire in places.

Other Thoughts:

Definitely expect to possibly lose a disc here. There was a group a head of mine and behind mine so we were finding each other's discs sometimes! Actually enough discs got lost that afterwards we all had to meet up in the parking lot and exchange discs! Something i never had to do before.

Once you see hole 15 you may just breathe a sigh of relief like I did because it it the first truly open hole on the course. If you like wooded courses you should definitely check this out because only two holes are really open (15+16).

It is a good course to play with lots of variety in the woods, but surprisingly exhausting for its length because it has yet to be broken in. This is definitely a nice little course that compliments the more well-known Warwick course and could be rated higher once more traffic flows through.
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StymieDidIt
Experience: 5 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 13, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Heavily wooded but a lot of fun to play. Stream comes into play a number of times. Short and long tees. Good elevation changes and lots of technical holes. Big arms won't have much of an advantage here.

Cons:

I found the rubber pads to be slippery when wet and hard to throw from. some tees are dirt, which was fine for the hole. Definately a 2/3 season course. By the end of April or earky May the course is barely navigable. The lost disc factor would be too great. Better markings and signs would be great. Without the map that I printed off the website, I don't think I would have been able to find my way from hole to hole.

Other Thoughts:

I really like the course despite the cons that I wrote. The group I play with, can't wait till the Fall so we can get in there and play it again
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