Nice challenging course lots of elevation

Long walk outs,

Locals said the 19 holes walk out to 3 miles shot +1 two boogies one birdie, my best score would be 4or 5 down, I'm 914 rated

A lot of variation in terms of shot approaches
Lovely setting
Well maintained
Free to play
Possibilities for birdies

Shared space with non-DG activities
Poor signage
A gap between hole 4 and 5 that is not obvious
Fair amount of uphill terrain

Played a round here without any background of the park and had a great time. The locals were all super helpful in terms of figuring out the layout and what shots are advisable.
There is a lot of uphill and downhill terrain so be prepared for that, but that also contributes to a great amount of variation and encourages having a wide amount of shot selection.
The crowds were very manageable and we never were slowed down even on a Saturday.
If this course would update the signage on each tee (distance, pin placement, next tee, etc. it would be a solid 4.25 for me).
I feel like hole 8 would be its most iconic hole, but I can also think of a few others that would merit mention as well.

Playable year around. Diverse terrain and distances. Good t-pads and baskets. High skill required on many holes due to baskets hidden in and behind trees or on steep inclines.
Friendly people by and large.
Not crowded (unlike Morley to the south).
Free!

The usual issues with sharing with others using the park. This can be an issue especially in summer evenings when there are performances at the outdoor theater in the park.
Not much info on the t-pad signs regarding distance etc.
Few holes have more than one basket location.
Traffic on the freeway between Oceanside and Escondido can be bad on any day.
Can get hot and dusty in the Summer and Fall.

Some complain of the long distance between some holes, I don't mind this. Probably not a cart friendly venue.
I wish Brengle was closer.
If you are in San Diego area visiting be sure to hit this course. It would be advisable to get some local knowledge, especially regarding alternate T-Pad at hole #5.

A good mix of RHBH and RHFH shots (more RHFH!! Bring your flick/anny game right handers!)
Lots of different terrain changes.
Challenging wooded holes.
Tunnel shots.
Some water hazards (after the rain).
Friendly locals.
Beautiful location on a park in Vista.
Clean and well kept.
Great exercise!
Lots of up and down shots.
Course map near the parking lot and hole 1.

No course maps at each hole.
The pro shop was closed, but looked a little small (not really a con because we never got to look inside.)
Out of bounds area not defined.

All in all this was a great course! My buddy and I cruised up to Vista in the late afternoon and played a round and a half there and we had a great time. There were a ton of open shots, dog leg rights, dog leg lefts, ups, downs, and wooded tunnels. A very nice mix of shots around a really neat looking park in the middle of Vista. We did wish the proshop was open (we got there around 3pm), and we also would have liked some course maps on the tees showing us where the out of bounds areas were, but other than that nothing to complain about at all here. Some of the holes were very challenging and were definitely not all aceable.

Located In the beautiful city of Vista, Brengle Terrace Park DGC is the perfect place to challenge your game while getting a full workout. The course is 18 holes spread out through an enormous park filled with peaks and valleys. Nearly every hole incorporates elevation and can often times be reached from the tee.

Many baskets and tee pads are guarded, which makes proper technique and accuracy a must in order to birdie. Hole length for the course ranges from 235'-552', with some holes being even longer if throwing from the back tees. The course uses rubber mats, making them ideal when needing to be relocated due to construction (currently holes 17 & 18) or redesign. The course has multiple pin placements as well, allowing for some variety for the local scene.

There is a pro shop located on site just below hole four which is a major plus, offering plenty of snacks, equipment, and apparel for those in need. The course is well maintained, with clean fairways and well-kept flora. This course is best suited for intermediate and advanced players, but with the right attitude all skill levels can enjoy it!

Favorite Hole(s): #8 & #10

As others have mentioned in their reviews, the biggest con from a traveling player like myself is course navigation. Once the course is played a few times it is quite easy to follow but for first timers...a map is a must! There are a few very long walk-outs and it can be quite easy to get lost. Fortunately, I was with a buddy who lives in the area but even then we still needed to pull out a map a time or two.

Another improvement that would be nice to see would be some visuals on the tee signs rather than just a number. It is always nice to see the layout of the hole and the suggested route. Hole distance, par, and major obstacles would be a nice bonus but is not a must.

Last, the amount of people enjoying the park can be an issue at times. There is a long walking pathway that meanders throughout the course as well as a playground near the entrance that makes for the perfect gathering spot on warm sunny days. The day we were playing we came across a family reunion near holes one and two. Fortunately, they were extremely nice and allowed us to play through as they stepped aside for a brief moment to watch. However, I am not sure everyone will have that luck so some holes may have to be skipped.

What made my visit to Brengle Terrace Park so enjoyable, besides the beautiful warm winter weather, was the variety of terrain the course provided. I know many complain about the amount of walking but I found the elevation to be extremely fun! Although some fairways play close to one another and may be lacking the challenge, it was nice to see variety in terms of playing across grassy fields, tree filled ravines, and over brush which blocked the greens. Although many may find the course short by modern day standards, I found it to be challenging enough due to the physical demand and would gladly call this my home course. If in the area I would most definitely consider playing it!

Note: The pictures on here do not match the current layout. Also, if looking to print off a map, use map 2 under the links/files tab.

• After the first few holes, you get to some pretty varied shot selections
• Nice views/surroundings
• Tees are great (rubber mat variety)
• Baskets are fine
• Course is easy to find
• Water/restrooms
• Great park with lots of amenities

• Where are the stinking signs?!?!?
• Not easy to navigate
• People/park goers are in play in a few spots
• One or two shots might be a bit unfair

Tips:
• Ignore course maps I, II, and III in the Links section (which I would have loved to have known ahead of time)
• When you pull in the parking lot, go right, drive a bit, and look left up the hill for the silver "AMERICA" sign. Holes 1 and 2 are there.
• Bring some good climbing shoes
• Be aware that this appears to a prime spot for canoodling. I must've passed at least 4 couples on my trek doing some form of heavy petting. Awkward...

Random Thoughts:
This will be an unfinished review as I'm pretty sure I was playing an unfinished course, because right now there are only hole number markers. No maps. No signs. No luck finding your way around, and this is a huge park, with some lengthy transitions between holes. The maps that are linked can kind of get you headed in the right direction, but I basically had to wander around to find the next hole, and in the hilly/rocky section, that sucked. Now that I've ranted... I do like the variety of holes here. Granted it's a little slow starting as the first 5-7 holes are fairly straightforward and not terribly difficult. Things change on #8, which incidentally is one of the coolest tee pad locations I've ever seen. Bravo on that one. But that's where the fun starts. Just about every hole after that up until maybe 18 has some major tree action and some serious risk/reward shot making. I mentioned that a couple holes might be unfair because I really didn't see any attack angle to the shot. It just seemed like the plan was to huck it into the trees and hope, but that's not a huge deal to me really. I'm not the type that demands every hole be aceable, or even birdieable. So overall I was not disappointed in the variety of shots presented to me.

Bottom Line:
I'll have to come back to see how this course finishes up but I do think it's headed in the right direction. It's a very nice park with tons of potential that looks like it will be taken advantage of. I'm looking forward to a return visit, that is, when the signs are done....and the map.

Incredible variety: wooded, open, technical, bombs, uphills, downhills, sideslopes, fallaways, seriously good exercise!

Signage is as weak as it gets! No info whatsoever.

This is very challenging course yet very fun. You will work up a serious sweat hiking up and down the peak as holes 6-16 flow up and down and around the hill. This course is like a more challenging Morley with much more elevation. Well worth the effort!

-Very good variety of throws to be used
-pretty decent tee pads
-pro shop
-parking is not an issue

-pretty wooded
-lots of walking up and down (im not being lazy, but the heat may have been a factor)
-needs to be more signs for tees and pin locations
-can get hot

When you throw a good throw, it feels like you're a pro. In contrast, if u mess up, it lets you get creative to save par. Lots of walking, but distance can be cut down by getting a map in the pro shop or in the main offices. There are lots of chances to perfect your throws, so get ready to learn. Have fun!

def fun course! great elevation change.
challenging to shoot under par for sure.

no signage means a first time player there wil be guaranted to get lost .
no distance markers
maps should be more readily available.

tons of potential once the course gets worked in.

Parking/Directions- Big park with lots of parking, you might want to be strategic with where you park but you should never lack a space, and easy to find a quick drive from the freeway.
Shot Variety- Good mix of up hill, downhill, left, right, wide open, wooded, pretty much a little of everything. The alt T locations they use for tourneys can also lend ALOT of length to the course if you want to bomb a few holes.
Double Gap Holes- a few of the holes require you to throw through a gap, across a field and through another gap, for me placement shots like this are very entertaining. Hole 8 is my favorite of the group, great turnover shot with my fuse.
Exercise- With all of the hill climbing here walking 18 is a pretty good workout, with DG as my only real exercise this is a real bonus.
Hole 5- A short hole that plays through a very tight creek with a few VERY tight lines available. I could throw 10-20 discs on this trying to get through, very entertaining.

Navigation! - There are a few gaps between holes that really left me confused the first time I was out here by myself, 2-3, 17-18 are the worst but there are a number of other poor spots.
Signage- there are tee markers but no real signs of any kind, this would really help with the Nav. issues as well as giving golfers a little more info on each hole.

My biggest takeaway from playing here is parking in the lot towards the end of hole 17 is the way to go. A bit of a walk to start your round at 18 but means you dont have an awkward long walk at the end of your round.

Also probably not a place to take beginners, playing behind a group of folks on their second or third time out, the creek holes were a mess for them, literally 10 throws later they had given up and walked to the next hole.

- Beautiful unique course. Definitely get your hiking boots ready, this course is physically demanding to walk. Alot of uphill and downhill walking keeps you on your toes. The views on this course are easily the best of the San Diego/North County area disc golf courses.
- Hole 3 is the highlight of the course for me. Its a "top of the world" type hole with such a magnificent view.
-Hole 7 is another highlight with the prettiest guarded basket of the bunch

Not many cons imo, but here are some things worth mentioning:
- I would start on hole 18 as hole 1, since its by the parking lot and end with hole 17 as your last hole. Not sure why they labeled the course this way, but starting on hole18 will make sense to you if you look at the course map
- the most uphill throws I've ever thrown on a course. this wouldn't be bad if you were rewarded with more downhill throws.
- no signage yet, but hopefully that gets installed soon

- not a beginner friendly course (not necessarily a con, but fyi)
- I'd really like to give this 3.75, but you can't give that rating on dgcoursereview. I've only played it once, but it is such a beautiful and challenging course and I can't wait to try it again.
- No signs, just posts. I recommend you play with someone who knows the course or you bring a map (hole 10 on the map seems inaccurate to me...its at the bottom of the hill but the map implies its next to basket 9 which is at the top of the hill, the rest of the map is fairly accurate otherwise).
- I'd also avoid going on an extremely hot day because walking this course is demanding
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-Now that I've played this course a couple of times, I still feel this may very well be the best course in the San Diego area overall; beautiful views, unique challenges, and not overly crowded. I still would not recommend bringing a beginner out here to learn though, it is quite a challenging course (in a good way). I throw both RHBH and RHFH and noticed I favored throwing my RHFH alot; alot of the course is uphill throws and sometimes the hills are so steep that your footing almost demands a FH throw, especially if you get stuck on a hill with lots of woods and little space to work with. Holes 9 and 11 are the steep hills to watch out for, especially on hole 9; one bad landing and you can get the "roll of death" towards the bottom of the hill.
-Another thing I noticed is that if you park in the main parking lot by the basketball courts, you may want to start at either holes 16 or 17 as your first hole.
Once Brengle gets some signage, I'll give this course a 4.

The Brengle Terrace disc golf course provides a variety of skill shots with scenic hilltops, downhill & uphill elevated sloped holes, and a mix of tight technical to open field shots. This course provides a wide variety of mixed holes to challenge every aspect of your game.

To start off, this course is centrally located throughout the city park making use of the land to avoid park users. There's a amphitheater, playground area, botanical garden, and a park center that share the area and somehow the San Diego Aces club was able to manuever around and design this course with the approval of the Vista City Council.

The course has rubber teepads on all current of the 16 holes, and there are still 2 holes to build through a forest of trees lined up with some sporatic poison oak. The poison oak will be removed and the holes (14 & 15) should be in place in the next month or so. Plans to install tee signs and a course directory are in place (money needs to be raised). A small but new disc golf shop is open near hole 17. Plenty of parking all throughout the park, with other activities around including basketball, baseball, and horseshoes pits.

The first two holes are wide open uphill shots with wind and elevation in contention. Hole 3 has a magnificent hilltop view of the park with a signature tee area facing a downhill slope with basket finishing left throwing into an uphill headwind. Probably one of the more unique holes you will every come across. Hole 4 is a putter shot 250ft downhill with a treachorous dropoff behind the basket. Hole 5 runs through a wooded canopy covered dry creekbed with serious trees lined up between tee and basket. Great tee area with natural seating to rest under the trees for a brief break.

Hole 6 shoots back uphill with a small window to contend with and the basket is guarded by several trees. The walk to hole 7 meanders uphill some ways, but you'll find this tee with a small window to punch out into the open field a unique challenge. The basket nestles on top of a small mound covered with trees for a scenic view. Bring out your hiking shoes for the next 4 holes as you shoot back and forth from out of the trees across a sloped fairway and back into wooded areas. These are tight technical shots, and hole 9 & 11 play way uphill and to the right. Favorable for LHBH or a righty sidearm, or a serious uphill RHBH anhyzer.

Hole 12 & 13 have low ceiling flat fairway shots with OB road to the left (that shouldn't come into factor). Both baskets play alongside slopes, so careful not to shoot past or you face a more challenging putt.

Hole 14 & 15 are currently in the works. Hole 16 shoots slightly uphill with open fairway and then the remaining 60ft around the basket are various small thorn bushes to watch out for. Hole 17 plays on a grassy fairway about 250ft, finishing to the right. The final hole 18 has three teepads with two of them throwing out into an open grass parking lot. The third shorter position plays alongside the street with a line of trees on the right. The long propad plays over 900ft.

The course is still in its early stages and as more players come out, I'm sure some lines will be carved out on the more challenging holes. Overall, this course will challenge you both physically and mentally. It helps to be a lefty or have a decent righty sidearm or turnover shot.

- New course that still has work to do, signs need to be installed, hole 14 & 15 not in yet.
- Very lefty friendly, don't be surprised if you hear this course dubbed "Lefty Revenge".
- Pro Shop is on hole 17, and then there is a long, long, long walk to hole 18. I suggest having hole 17 as 18, and make orginal 18 as hole 1; we shall see.
- Still need to open up some lines on a few holes.
- Some holes still have a lot of natural debris to remove, and finding discs on a couple holes will be a challenge.

Looking forward to seeing how this course really turns out and what changes will be made down the road. Has a long way to go to become a mature course, but give it time. This course is really unique and provides a lot of different challenges, well worth to check it out.

Lots of elevation changes and trees: a major plus given the usually open design of southern california courses.

A couple of "signature holes," especially the ones that run through the dry creek bed in the middle of the course.

Long course, probably half again as long as kit carson.

The course is challenging from both a disc golf perspective and a physical perspective. Wear some good shoes and long pants.

Great design. Puts the holes in places that don't appear to be used by regular park goers all that often. In fact, it appears that there will not be many problems with conflicting park use in most areas.

Free!

Pro Shop will be on site (off of hole 17.)

Kind of way out there if you don't live in North County.

A lot of trash, but this is probably due to the fact that the course is relatively new and some of the places that they've cleared out appear to be hobo homes/teenager smoking hangouts. If you play, try to pick up some of the crap!

This isn't really a pro or a con, but just be aware that the course has not been completed yet. A lot of this review is based on the potential of the course. I'll revisit this after everything is done and reevaluate the course, but I expect my score to go up.

There is a lot of brush that still needs to be cleared, rubber tee pads need to be put in on most holes, and two holes haven't been completed yet. If anyone lives in San Diego and has some free time on the weekends, I urge you to get out and help these guys finish up. Go to the San Diego Aces website for more info.

Also, the signage hasn't been put in yet, and course navigation is not intuitive. There are several places where you cannot see the next tee pad from the previous pin. The Aces have put up a map on their website at http://sandiegoaces.com/2012/...park-update/. I recommend you print it out and take it with you. If I hadn't met a guy who had been part of the work parties I would never have been able to find my way around.

Finally, one final note, but I think the course would benefit by starting at the current Hole 18 and finishing on Hole 17, for several reasons: (1) there is a parking lot right next to Hole 17 and the pro shop is off of that hole, (2) there is a long, uphill walk to hole 18 that really breaks up the flow of the course, and (3) 17 is at the end of a downhill/flat portion anyway. I plan to play the course like this in the future, but it would be nice if the designer could make that change officially.