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Coyote Hills DGC

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Ryal
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Experience: 6.9 years 222 played 184 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Coyote Hills For Honing Skills

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 18, 2022 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ Tee signs are colorful and easy to understand.
+ Numbered baskets have different colored tape on their spokes to point the way to the next tee.
+ Fairways are mostly wooded challenges with some generous elevation and a few water features.
+ Tee pads are long, wide, sturdy and flat concrete with painted corners.
+ Information board, practice basket and scorecards, but...

Cons:

- ...No lost disc box? Did I walk right past it and not notice?
- More than a few safety hazards in terms of exposed roots, steep walks, and somewhat blind throws.
- Most holes have crazy roughage areas.
- Some of the holes felt interchangeable.

Other Thoughts:

I didn't like hole1 because it was too straightforward and featureless. I didn't like hole13 because of the jungle of undergrowth at the bottom of its valley, which of course I landed in. (Yes, that second one is purely personal.) Hole4 was pretty fun to play with its slanted uphill drive, dogleg left as it flattens and then valley finish all within the woods. I thought hole17 was the nicest to look at. I don't often see a high multi-tiered bunker pyramid behind a stream after throwing through a semi-open field. The biggest surprise was hole7. A striking downhill tee-off through some dense woods over a stream and onto a slim fairway was just the unexpected jolt that livened up the course for me.

Coyote Hills as a whole has a lot in its favor, but it's kind of exhausting. 'Too much of a good thing' came to my mind once or twice while playing here. I love hilly wooded courses. Coyote's hills are noticeable without being daunting, but maybe the wooded part is taken too seriously. Holes14-16 are lots of fun or irritating, depending on the player's relationship with the trees. Same with holes10 and 11. And even though I personally loved playing hole7, I can easily understand why someone else would hate it. Tons of trees. Maybe I made a mistake by playing here just as summer was starting. Everything was lush and green.

That actually brings me to the issue of Coyote's rough and undergrowth. On most holes the player must be super accurate or use less power because one bad ricochet off one of the many trees will end in headache. Could be throrns, snaggy twigs, dense and gnarled hedges or a mix. Some would find this course irritating for that reason alone. Still, despite how prolific the undergrowth wants to be, the club here is doing a nice job keeping things from getting too out of control. The fairways are very well upkept and obvious with any OB signified by a rope.

So, in summation, I've had a few complaints, but Coyote Hills is definitely worth a visit. Take your time aiming or just resort to shorter throws if the ubiquitous trees and rough make you nervous. There is a peaceful and harmless stream to avoid. There are some hills to conquer. And there are some open holes to serve as a kind of intermission. Some players may find the tree and elevation combinations to be a bit unreasonable, and I don't think that true beginners would enjoy this course too much. I definitely enjoyed it enough to give it a healthy recommendation, but I won't take it personally if you swear it off forever.
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blazerico
Experience: 18.9 years 321 played 37 reviews
3.50 star(s)

lefty friendly 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 24, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

good signage, concrete pads, next tee signs, dedicated space for dg, mowed fairways, benches on lots of holes

Cons:

this is one of the most lefty friendly courses i have ever played. I'm kinda okay with it since my flick shot has been working well, but many righties may complain more than me. the rough here is really nasty at spots, 12 and 13 especially so. really didn't like the basket placement on hole 2

Other Thoughts:

being lefty friendly doesn't make it less fun--I'll be clear. it's a great course and anyone that can master it will probably do well at most other courses.
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sidewinder22
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.8 years 302 played 198 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Wiley E. Coyote's Doglegs 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 20, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice concrete tees and signage and Discatcher baskets. Decent navigation with two loops of 9 holes back to parking lot. Excellent use of the elevation and space. Nice variety of lines and distances to hit. Really enjoyed holes 1, 2, 6, 8, 17, and 18. Disc golf only area of park.

Cons:

Nothing major that should keep anyone from playing. Single concrete tees and single basket positions(except hole 1 has two baskets). The rough is still fairly rough with brush and some poison ivy. Biting flies in summer. No bathroom.

Other Thoughts:

Overall Coyote Hills is a very good course, I absolutely loved the first and last few holes as they are pro caliber. I'd rate the course 3.75 if I could. This maybe just be my preference and cup of tea, but many of holes in the middle reminds me of Wiley E Coyote using Acme products to try and catch the Roadrunner that end up backfiring like on the short dogleg holes and couple holes that have tight winding fairways with bad rough. Those holes just seemed to lack much fun factor and re-playablilty for me but that's just like my opinion man.

I did what the reviewer below me did and followed my GPS to the road with the closed bridge. Call an audible, orange barrel re-route to get to the park. I wouldn't necessarily go too far out of the way to seek out, but Coyote Hill is one of the best courses in the area, so I'd recommend playing it as a good fix in the area.
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Airubus
Experience: 21 years 43 played 19 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Wow...challengeing 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 4, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

very well designed. no holes overlap each other. you really feel like you're alone out there on a long hike. this course pulls no punches. plenty of elevation changes, tunnel shots, left to right, right to left, up to down, and down to up and back down again....you get the point. you have short holes...and one MONSTER of a par 5. love love love this course.

Cons:

NOT a beginner course. the rough is ROUGH!!!! but it is a new course, and the rough will eventually thin with player trails retrieving discs...lord knows i made a few of my own. also because this is a new course, the thorns are bad. a few holes dont reward great shots, but will PUNISH poor choices. i think it was hole 17 or 18 where my disc was 15 feet from the basket...and my disc was near unplayable due to a lack of a "green" again....the course is new...and will be tweaked, and beaten in so i cant knock it so bad

Other Thoughts:

i will come back to this course for SURE!!! very memorable. put this on your list!!
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RamsFan1
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.6 years 91 played 91 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Good, but some tweaks needed 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Dec 26, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Primarily wooded course featured in a nice township park in Carlisle. A practice basket and mailbox with scorecards/map are available as you enter the parking lot by hole 1. Numbered Innova Disc Catcher baskets and good sized cement tee pads installed at each hole. Good signs. White arrows affixed to the bottom of each basket and worn in paths make navigation simple. Good variety, excellent use of elevation and a small creek on the premises. Some cool holes- #2 fish hook, #6 open field downhill hyzer, #7 across a creek to basket on other side, and #8 elevated pin atop railroad ties stand out. Hole 17, a slight downhill shot through trees and over two low wooden fences to a basket perched up on a hill, is the most picturesque hole on the course.

Cons:

Several holes are too tight off the fairway. Despite its distance, I am not a fan of hole 13. Either you drive 300 feet straight off the tee or you're totally screwed, with oppressive rough in front of the tee and off to the left at the bottom of the hill. The fairway itself is gravel and shale- hardly an ideal circumstance, especially on a hole of this length. And the approach from 75-100 feet away from hole 2 basket is entirely too small, with a player having to thread one of two small openings to get there.

Other Thoughts:

The Middlesex Township DG Course goes above and beyond what one might expect at a township park. This course is good and has the potential to be VERY good. It is laid out well, has good flow and with few exceptions doesn't really interfere with other park users. It is a worthy venue with plenty of challenge and much work has obviously been done here. With all that said, I feel parts of this course are unfair. No fewer than 5-6 holes are entirely too tight off the tee. Worse yet, Some safe landing areas in the middle of those same fairways present no reasonable 2nd shot to the basket (Holes 10 and 14 come to mind). Taking out a small tree or two here and there would go a long way. Despite these criticisms, Coyote Hills presents plenty of challenge and should be visited on a player's foray into this area of PA.
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swatso
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.7 years 755 played 414 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Good now, could be Great 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Nov 11, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Eighteen long-n-wide-level concrete teepads (OK, #7 is short, but it is a very short hole, too).

Between the online map and the fairly natural flow, the course was pretty easy for this first-time visitor to navigate. Things to remember are:
- from basket-8, the tee straight ahead is #11 - go right to find tee-9
- from tee-9, the parking lot is to the right, tee-10 down to the left
- Uber-long #13 has you passing basket-16 and tee-14 before finally reaching basket-13, tucked into the woods on the right

The landscape - two wooded (mixture of deciduous and evergreen) slopes separated by a tiny stream, framed by bits of open space and containing a natural glade, all of which are incorporated to great effect - is well-suited for hosting a disc golf course.

The undergrowth didn't seem very bad in the wooded - the thick shule along the open left-sides of 12 and 13, or the fenced-off area along #6 are the likeliest disc-loss areas.

Cons:

Many tree stumps - small enough not to catch the attention of your eyes, big enough to catch the attention of your toes. Wear steel-toed shoes, if you have them.

Holes 2, 7, and 9 - especially #7 - require a small stream be crossed. Boards/logs/bridges are needed, as the crossings can be steep (2,7), wide (7, 9), or both (7)! Erosion already beginning to affect the common crossing locations.

On #1, too far left and a baseball field/bleachers come into play.

No permanent (there were just a few temporary) teesigns/directional signs.

Other Thoughts:

There is quite a bit to like about this very challenging and varied course, which is definitely more wooded then open:
- Variety in fairway-shapes - you'll need to throw an even blend of left/right/no-turning shots on this course. For the fairways with turns, the sharpness of the turn, and the location of the turn, will also vary - you'll see most every combination.
- Variety of tightness: Only a few holes will let you "relax" and swing your disc wide, if you otp to do. Most holes offer challenging-but-fair flightpaths. And then there are the few that throw the gauntlet down - quite tight, and/or quite long, at times, both!
- Variety of elevation changes: More down-slopes than up-slopes, with some down-then-ups and flat holes added to the mix, too.
- Variety in distance: ranging from 187'-723', 2/3rd of the holes fall into the 320'+/- 60' range.

Favourite hole: Many to like, I think I'll choose #10.Fairly open to start, with the tee at the edge of the open space, you throw towards a generous path cut into woods, needing a fairly sharp right-turn as the throwing path narrows as it descends towards the stream. The slope rises and opens on the other side of the stream, the basket, at nearly the same elevation as the tee, slightly to the left, partially guarded by the end of a treeline.

Honourable mention to #8, offering two possible flightpaths:
- very long, straight, narrow, sharp-left-at-end, or
- needing to hit an elevated-window early, followed by a right-turn, then holding a straight line down a wider opening than the other route

Least favourite: #15 An evil version of somewhat-similar #5, it is a short, up-slope, tight right-turner, with plenty of pinball potential nearly the entire duration, offering little chance for a recovery.

If/as the course matures, i.e. the Cons I mentioned are dealt with this course will join the already-long list of Excellent Pennsylvania courses - and it is a fine play, even as is! Adding some alternate pin positions (I'd estimate this could easily be accomplished on the about 2/3rds of the holes, as many were quite long and had reasonable optional locations) and/or tee positions, allowing the course to play differently from time to time, would make this course an even sweeter play.

Update 9/14/13: After nearly a two-year hiatus, I returned for another round, and was pleased by the additions, including:
* long-n-wide-n-flat concrete teepads
* quality signs at teepads
* alternate natural tee locations on about 1/2 the holes.
* well made bridges and stairs where needed
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crowdpleaser
Experience: 16.1 years 21 played 5 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Great New Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 26, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This is exactly the sort of course Central Pennsylvania needed. Until recently, you had to drive to Pinchot Park to get a quality technical course. But now the course at Middlesex Twp Park is ready to fill in the gaps.

The course goes around the park through the woods and offers a challenging experience. If you want to compare it to Pinchot, think of it this way. Where Pinchot (Boulder's Woods) is an fairly openly stroll through the woods, Middlesex is a tight excursion.

Now brevity aside, Middlesex's best qualities come in the form of forcing you to use what's in your trickbag. On paper, each hole looks like you can either just use your backhand or flick, but don't get comfortable with those. Many of Middlesex's holes will require you to take a second look in order to get those extra 50 feet. Thumbers and Hammers are definitely encouraged.

Like I said this is a great addition to the Disc Golf community in Central PA and I hope this course gets a lot of attention in the future.

Cons:

Not many Cons to note, but here are some:

The course winds its way around a small stream and therefore you have to cross the stream a lot. But there are no bridges or walkways over the stream. Now, I'm a young man in my twenties so jumping the stream was no problem. But for the senior players out there, look out.

On Hole 6, you get to throw a bomb drive which is a good break from the tight woods. But look out on your left, there is a radio tower surrounded by a barbed-wire fence. I played this course on 10/26/11 and saw there was already a disc in there. My best advice for this hole is stay low as you go past the fence.
But there really should be some phone number posted at the tee that will enable you to inform the township of your lost disc.

Other Thoughts:

As of 10/26/11 the first 9 holes had cement tee boxes installed. I only played 9 that day so I can't speak for the rest. One thing to note, however, is that a bunch of the teeboxes were still wet. But I'm sure that will take care of itself soon.
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jblough
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Experience: 15 years 85 played 85 reviews
3.50 star(s)

More like Middlesexy! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 8, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Easy to find course with great amenities such as port-a-johns, practice tee, ample parking, and some benches.
- Baskets are brand new. I mean like...straight out of the box new. I bet they have that new basket Smell, but I wasn't that brave.
- Nice balance between wooded technical holes and wide open ones
- Elevation changes, most notably on 9, 10, 14, and 17.
- Moderate as well as sharp hyzer/anhyzer doglegs throughout the course. In fact, there are few straight shots to the basket here. I found my z-flick coming in handy for a few near 90 degree turns!
- Decent hole lengths throughout the course. 6, 13, 14, and 17 are examples of 350+ holes.
- Hole #1 plays in the open, then its a series of wooded holes from 2-5. Hole 6 plays in a wide open field, but you have to watch that your disc doesn't go go into a fenced-in antenna with barbed wire. 7 plays near a creek and hole 8 has both an anhyzer and hyzer path to the basket. Holes mostly alternate between wide open and wooded on the back nine. Designers did a nice job of breaking up the motonany of all the wooded holes, a rare thing to find at a course!
-Intuitive course flow despite being just opened. I only needed my map to find holes 13 and 16.

-Overall, a nice and challenging course with a lot of variety and challenge-although not too frustrating. That's what White Tail Woods is for!

Cons:

-Tees aren't all installed yet. In fact, after hole 12, not much of anything is installed yet, except the baskets of course
-Inconsistency of gravel/wood teepads, makeshift teepads with logs, and plain dirt.
- Temporary signage in the form of laminated paper that sits by each tee. Obviously better signage is needed.
-No "next tee signs," which could help on some holes
- Lack of kiosk or map at course
- Some fairways could use some trimming and cutting; pathways between holes also need to be more defined.
- No super duper awe-inspiring holes, but there aren't really any bad ones, either. Few holes have a lot of risk/reward element, either.
- Wish there were another 2-3 open holes to air some of my discs out
- Thorns, briers, and all that nasty stuff off the fairways.
(As you can see, a lot of the cons can be fixed and probably will as it looks like the finalization of the course is already in progress. As such, I didn't factor much of the amenities into my review)

Other Thoughts:

Dare I say this is the best course in the Harrisburg area (besides Pinchot)? I'll let you determine that---especially to our Creekside friends in Camp Hill. What I can say for certain is that true disc golf enthusiasts will not be disappointed due to the wooded/open balance of the course and shot variety. Clearly the course is still in its infancy and needs some maintenance for signage, tees, etc., but I think that'll change soon. Come help break the course in!
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