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St. Louis (Maryland Heights), MO

Creve Coeur Lake - Lakeside

2.225(based on 9 reviews)
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MBoehner
Experience: 9.3 years 17 played 14 reviews
2.00 star(s)

Sunday Funday 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 17, 2021 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Flat parkland course stuck in between other park amenities.
New updated baskets.

Cons:

Tee pads are very small and not aligned with direction of most holes. Holes are very close to each other, so keep an eye out for way ward shots from other players.

Other Thoughts:

Solid beginner course to learn on.
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Three Putt
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Experience: 29.4 years 152 played 127 reviews
2.00 star(s)

I'm Still Here 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 13, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

EDIT: This course had a complete overhaul on 12/26/20. This review is now obsolete; I will update once I have the chance to play the new layout.

I had a houseplant once that I would forget to water and never put in the sunlight, so when I would notice it sitting there it would appear to be dead. There would be a little green so I would try to water it and after a bit it would come back. Not as full and looking kinda sad, but alive and kicking to see another day. Creve Coeur Disc Golf Course is like that plant. I'm not sure how it's still there, and I'm not sure it's a good thing that it's still there. It's still there, though. The County tore the bejeezus out of it, but they couldn't kill it.

So what is left after the County bulldozed the back nine? The old bomber layout front nine is still there intact. The 800' hole 4 with the OB trap by the basket? It's there. The 500'-600' holes 7-8 down the fence line daring you to flip your drive OB? Still there. The 700' hole 9 back to the parking lot? Still there. I think the parking lot was expanded some and the tee for hole 3 was moved up, but otherwise the front 9 is still there. It's a 4,600'-5,300' par 35 nine holes. If you liked Creve Coeur before, that part of it is still there.

Cons:

The new back nine is south of the Heldman Picnic Shelter, which was the boundary of the old course. To get to those baskets you have to walk over 700 yards from hole 9 across the entire front nine and past the picnic shelter to the baskets. Or drive your car, which I did because 700 yards is insane. Once you are there, there are nine baskets scattered around. There are no tee signs. I found one marking in the ground which said "hole 2" which I assume was a tee. There were some flags around, but they didn't seem to obviously be marking anything. A few of them were marking unused pin placements. After a bit I just gave up figuring out the layout and safaried.

Even when (and I'll assume this will happen) the tees are marked, this area is a lot smaller than the area the old front 9 is on. The shots are going to be a lot shorter. It really creates two 9-hole courses; one really long and one short.

UPDATE: They installed some short posts to mark the tees, so now you can follow the layout. Which is not a good thing, because the layout is horrible. It starts in an odd place, there are long walks between holes for no good reason, all of the shots are short and unremarkable, and the flow is bad. Hole 4 you have to walk all the way down the fairway to get to the tee and shoot back across the path you just walked. There are two open holes in front of hole 6's basket that go down to an old sewer that you can throw your disc in or step in. It's just bad disc golf. I liked this part of the course better when I couldn't find the tees and safaried it.

The problem with the short nine is that the only thing that made the course interesting after the flood was that it was looonnnggg. The course is flat as a board and lightly wooded. The shots are repetitive because really what can you do? The challenge was the length. Take away the length, and it's flat, fairly open boring golf. Add in the old beat-up baskets and long-standing issue of negligent maintenance by the County Parks and it's a whole bunch of not good. I could actually see myself coming back to play the front 9 and then just skipping the other holes.

The old holes have the wrong baskets in the placements. Hole one's basket had "11" on it. Hole two's basket had "14" on it. If you have never been there before, it would be confusing. There is a sidewalk running across hole 9 now; as long as the hole is it seems like it could be shortened so that it didn't play across the sidewalk.

Other Thoughts:

FULL DISCLOSURE: Creve Coeur was the third or fourth disc golf course I played. At the time it was a pretty heavily wooded course that was really challenging for me. That course is a nostalgic memory, though. The great flood of '93 killed over 100 trees on the course, and a flood the following year brought the chainsaws out again. The St. Louis disc golf community responded by getting Sioux Passage and Jefferson Barracks installed, and Creve Coeur languished as a weedy 9-hole for a few years before it was revived as a super-long 8,724'-10,224' par 69 "bombs away" course. The tall grass was still a problem; the County reclassified the land as flood plain after the floods and it was on the "we will mow it if nothing else needs to be mowed" rotation. Eventually the solution was to pull the course in the summer and use it as a "winter only" course. Odd, but the course was still there. Finally a political play for a hockey arena caused the back nine to be pulled and the land cleared, only to have the clearing declared unauthorized and the hockey arena plan to go away. Too late for the disc golf course, though. The land was already cleared. Given everything that Mother Nature and the County Park System have done to ruin this course, I cut it a whole bunch of slack for being as bad as it is. If you don't have the history/attachment to the place that I do, you might think I've overrated it.

The new nine holes are very new, so with some work on the tees there might be a bit to work with here. My thoughts actually are that these holes are too far away from the other baskets. You could make the course start with 8 of the new holes, then walk over to hole seven to start the old holes. Then you would finish the old holes at hole six and walk back to finish on a new hole. That would still be two 600'-700'ish golfless hikes back and forth between the new and old holes. It's probably best just to drive back and forth to the sections and just consider them like two 9-hole courses.

There is a bit of the old back nine land still there, probably room for a couple of holes. Add to that the fact that there is 5,300' of golf in the front nine; it seems obvious that you could totally redo the whole layout on the section that is left from the old course and have room for a decent 18-hole park-style course there. Given that it will be overgrown all summer, I'm not sure it's worth the effort to do that. What is there Is not good, but given the reality of the situation it might be the best option. What actually might have been best would have been to leave it the longest 9-hole course around. I think I would have rated it higher if it was just the old front nine.

So Creve Coeur Disc Golf Course is still there. As somebody who remembers when it was THE St. Louis course, that is somewhat comforting. You can't kill it, it's still there. You can go visit it like an old friend. An old friend that was horribly disfigured in an accident and has a questionable quality of life, but that's better than a dead friend. Right?

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