There are two tees at this hole, and tourney players use the long (the original short tee was there when the basket was at the top of the hill and too close to the parked cars). This hole plays a good 50 to 60 feet longer than listed, due to the upslope. I throw my Tern (rhbh) because I don't have enough arm to reach or overthrow this one, and I am not worried about the OB road on the right because the upslope tends to cancel out some of the understability.