- Concrete tees, not huge, but nothing to complain about.

- Good basket conditions.

- Although no tee signs, easy to navigate with an app like uDisc and relatively intuitive layout.

- I'm not a "gimmicky" basket guy, but having one hanging basket on the course (#2) I actually really liked.

- Three really great "over the water" shots where losing discs is definitely in play. Really enjoyed the second water hole where you shoot over the water up to a small hill.

- Really nicely maintained green, public park with lots of parking.

- We played on a weekend with nice weather and it was surprisingly not busy at all, didn't see any other players.

- Couple of spots to open up with full drives, which is always fun.

- Good use of the available space, surprising they went for 27 holes, haven't really seen this sort of layout before.

- Other than going into water or over a fence, you're not really going to lose discs here.

- Paralleling roads with a lot of holes puts a lot of roads and public walking trails/sidewalks in play, with some adjacent housing. Given that the holes are often long (300-400 feet), for anyone without decent control there are lots of opportunities for discs to go to bad places. This is by far the biggest course con.

- No tee signs

- Signage says you're not supposed to try to retrieve your disc if you put it in the water.

- No public restroom.

- Not much technical challenge in terms of obstacles like trees that force you to change your lines.

- This course feels so incredibly long because after the first 9 holes you start paralleling a street moving away from the park, ending up at 18 over a mile away from the parking lot.

- After the first few holes, it's a lot of long holes that rec/novice players are going to struggle to play at close to par, just as a head's up.

- Overall glad we went out of our way to play this course, we enjoyed it, though I don't think it has a ton of replayability factor like some of the other Phoenix-area courses.

Well kept course that meanders through a neighborhood. Most holes have two tees. Some of the water holes are beautiful (if not terrifying).

Some scary water carries for a short arm and street OB on many holes. Baskets could be better.

I found this course very challenging in spots and a very serious long walk.

-Not very busy
-Holes around the water are fun and a novelty in the dessert
-Nice grass
-Multiple tees on some holes

-No signs to indicate where is the next hole (can be confusing)
-Hole Numbering is confusing as holes appear to be added recently (***see note below***)
-Lack of originality on back half of course
-yardage missing on many of holes

***update***
We went back and figured it out. It is 27 holes. There are 3 holes prior to the original #1 on the current map, 2 holes between holes 6 and 7 on the current map, and the old #8 is split into 2 holes. Signs would still be really helpful. However, we had so much fun I updated the rating from 3 to 3.5.
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Since the last review approximately 18 months ago, at least 3 holes have been added at the start. The start of the new 'first' hole is very ambiguous and felt like a treasure hunt trying to find it. Appears to be close to 27 holes now, although we apparently missed a few and found it confusing. A few key signs pointing to the next tee would go a long ways, as would an updated map uploaded to the course link. Altogether, a nice course that I would go back to. Would definitely consider giving it a 3.5 with the simple addition of some signage.

Firstly, for being located here in the "Valley of the Sun" this is such a lush, plush green oasisis of grass on which to play. Like Fountain Hills and Vista Del Camino, this instantly scores points with me compared to most other Souhwestern desert type courses. And not only the green grass but the water features with the elevated ponds and waterfalls are very pleasing to spend time walking through. The park does have signs everywhere informing you that this park is for residents only but obviously no-one is checking ID's.
The course plays in and around a fenced community. Although, there are opportunities where a errant throw could land in a neighbors yard, experienced players should have little trouble keeeping their discs on the course. Keeping them off the street might be present mre of a challenge. The courses features a nice blend of long (600 plus) holes to shorter ACE runs (less than 300 feet).
Many holes feature two teepads. Sometimes this second pad is just shorter, sometimes it's just a differnt look or perhaps an elevated pad. The pads are concrete or some throw off the sidewalk. There are simple square inserts in the ground next to the pad simply stating the hole # and distance. The alternate pads offer no markings. I was fortunate to hook up with, two local players, Steve & Kenny. Not only were they great guides and good company, it was nice to play with a couple of gentlemen who...were mature like I am! Without them, navigation would have been most difficult.

As the previous reviewer mentioned, the course favors a RHBH player. Lefties might find the course a little more challenging.
The water, although lovely, is a disc eater It's murky enough that discs finding their way into into it's depths might nt be easily retireved.
Navigation would be difficult the first time through without some help.
The wind picked up quite a bit in late morning.

Anytime you can play a Phoenix area course on green grass is a major bonus in my book. Add the water, the lovely landscaping, and a pretty nice overall design and that all adds up to a solid course. This is a course that certainly appeals to a wide range of layers.

First and foremost, the course has been significantly improved since the reviews prior to mine were written, and so the course you'll play now is significantly under rated. If you're traveling to Phoenix and looking for courses to play, keep reading and disregard the rating. This course deserves about a 3.75 rating, so I'm rounding up to 4.0. It's a close second to Fountain Hills as the best non-pay course in the Phoenix area to visit (of the top rated ones I've played).

As I learned at the Sunday doubles, the locals/HOA responsible for the course have removed the infamous tees with rocks, originally installed by the landscapers of the neighbourhood (who didn't know any better). And I believe I understand that the course was made longer in the process. The tee pads are now proper, the holes are all par 3, and it's now a 20 hole course as they've bridged the gap between hole 18 and the start of the course with 2 more holes (the 20th hole being a memorable addition). Another tidbit I heard there was that the local disc golf association was going to be allocated a portion of the trees the HOA had purchased for the neighbourhood, to place to enhance the course. If this comes to fruition, it will be massive, and I can't wait to see the results.

The course starts and finishes in a beautifully landscaped park with a threatening lake, but ventures out into the green spaces of the neighbourhood where fences and pathways become boundaries. While that isn't a good thing, the width of the holes is mostly very adequate, and the basket placement intelligently done so that the fences aren't brought into play as an obstacle; generally the tee is on the house side of the green space, and you're throwing diagonally to a basket on the street/pathway side. The paths and streets have sparse traffic, so this isn't an issue, rarely will you have to wait to throw. Worst thing to worry about is a car running over your disc while it lays in the street, and the cars were politely avoiding the discs when my group had some go OB.

The course is beautiful, and there are a lot of similarities to Fountain Hills for me, so it begs comparison. While Fountain Hills has it's massive lake and the iconic fountain, this course a small lake with multiple beautiful waterfalls feeding it from an elevated pond, all in play on a half dozen holes. The use of the lake is similar; 4 baskets placed near the lake forcing risk/reward decisions of whether to go for birdie over the water, or play for par on a safer route. What I like better here is the grass is lush and, with one exception, the landscape doesn't slope towards the water for otherwise good shots to roll into the water. Also like Fountain Hills, a lot of the remaining holes try to make due with a sparse number of trees, and fall back to basket placement near pathways and streets to create difficulty. But because the park is far less busy here, it works, whereas this is a big gripe for me at Fountain Hills.

The cons of this course are pretty straight forward, but don't outweigh the positives by any means:
- Since the bulk of the course moves counter clockwise in a circle through the green spaces between the roadway and houses, for the majority the houses are on your right and the roadway on your left, with the basket always on the left side of the fairway (near the road). This means it favours players who throw right to left naturally, to throw safely down the fairway and skip towards the basket. This course would be tough if you threw primarily LHBH!
- The water in the lake is very murky, so what should be a trivial retreval isn't. I watched a couple people lose discs in the lake and spend a long time trying to retrieve them with rakes, only some getting them back. This is a big pet peve of mine, I don't like hazards where you don't get your disc back, murky shallow water included.
- There's a couple holes where fences to private property come into play a bit, and it doesn't take a horrible shot to go into their yard. In one case it's a very narrow fairway, and in another case the tee pad and the basket are both on the road side of the green space, so if you throw out into the fairway and your disc doesn't fade on time, it's gone.
- Baskets near roads/pathways is never preferable, even if you've got clear visibility and they're sparsely used. Sometimes a disc hangs out there for 10 seconds and in the meantime a car is now in the picture.
- The tee pads have distances on a brick at the back, but there's no signs, although finding the baskets is generally pretty easy.
- There isn't a big map of the course on site, so bring your own.
- The course lacks trees and you can generally pick your own line to the basket. I can't remember having to throw any forehands, and can only recall 1 hole where I needed a turn over shot. This would be a bigger issue for me if I didn't live in a city where most of the courses are disproportionately left-to-right!

It can't be said enough, the current ratings and reviews here for this course aren't fair, and I'd make the argument they should be reset when significant changes are made to a course.

If you're deciding where to play, the courses in Phoenix break into 2 categories for me: landscaped park (lots of water and OB, fewer trees), and desert (rocky ground, plenty of short brush trees). Of the 4 landscaped coures I've played in the area (Fountain Hills, Maricopa, Vista Del Camino, and Fiesta Lakes (a pay to play ball golf course), Fountain Hills and this course are my favourites, and geography will probably decide which one you go to first with them being opposite each other, both outside Phoenix. And I do prefer the landscaped courses to the desert ones, save for maybe Buffalo Ridge Park (which you NEED someone to guide you on your first game).

Go here. Try it. If you're expecting a 3, I guarantee you won't be disappointed!

Aesthetically pleasing green grass (in the desert) with a small lake. The course is maintained by a home owner association.

Uniform tee pads through out the course that have two desert granite rocks bordering the front of the pad. Marked distance to basket and par on cement.

Good use of available greenbelt for a couple of slightly technical basket placements that require a shaped throw.

I really don't have any negatives as far as I am concerned, others might have a few.

A 40 minute drive from Phoenix. Public transportation is a challenge to the course for those that do not have a car.

The rocks on the tee pads could be a tripping hazard if you are not paying attention.

Narrow fairways, windows well within driving error area.

A couple of baskets close to children play areas.

The course ends and there is a few minute walk back to the parking area.

Drinking water and rest rooms?

There are a few holes that require precise lay ups or you are out of bounds or worse. I also enjoy the few "let it rip" holes that are free from trees, the basket being straight with little in the way.

This is a course where rollers will come into play. If you like rollers, there are a few holes that will allow you to shape your roll precisely.

My favorite two courses are Fountain Hills and Vista Del Camino. I have played the other grass courses in Phoenix however Maricopa Meadows is now on regular rotation for our weekend rounds.

I enjoy grass courses and this one fits the bill.

Make sure you print up a course map play card before you go.

Nice home course. water in play hole 3, 4 and 5

Some of the par 4's and par 5's are really not... but makes me feel better about my game. Houses in the back nine are ob. No restrooms.

Maybe a restroom would be nice halfway.