- Great variety of shots in terms of distance (150-450ft), lines and elevation
- Challenging layouts that require precise placement shots
- Very easy to navigate with giant "next tee" signs everywhere.
- High quality thick rubber teepads
- Course is in great shape and well taken care of

- Some REALLY tight tricky lines and super precise placement shots. I thought luck played a bit too much of a role on many holes.
- hard to spot some baskets. Flags or fluorescent tape would have been helpful
- I didn't like the basket placement indicator signs. They were basically photos from the teepad with black pen over the top indicating where each basket was. Many times, I had trouble reading these signs because of the lack of contrast between the photo and ink. I think I prefer the traditional topographic approach.

great great course. I enjoyed my round here. I do like challenging courses but I have to admit, I got a bit frustrated with this one. The course got very tight and precise to the point where I felt luck played a part in how I finished. My final score was +5 with 4 birdies: a pretty unusual score for me which I attribute to the course design. If I got lucky and hit the tight line, I'd get an easy birdie. If I'd slightly miss the line, roll 50ft after hitting my target or clip a small twig along the way, I'd be fighting for a bogey. Nevertheless, give this course a chance if you're in the area!

Very challenging course, lots of uphill & down hill shots, Lots of tree shots & nice markers on every hole, these guys are really doing a nice job of keeping the course up. One of the club members was accually there doing some work & was very helpful for us as we were on a mini vacation.

Poison oak, the guy that was there said they had got rid of alot of the poison oak that was in the fairways, nice job! If you are not in good shape like me, you will get very winded from the uphill climbing, pace your self & carry some water as there is no water on the course.

If you are traveling in this area, PLAY THIS COURSE it will be well worth your while

Out of the over 100 course I've played this one is actually one of my favorites. This is what a mountain course should be. Its fun, its challenging, but its fair. Its heavily wooded but there are still fairways to throw on, not just throw blindly at trees and hope it goes through. Its got plenty of elevation changes, but the holes are thought out and not just 12 holes throwing up and down a mountain. Its got wide open field shots for the first 5 holes, all use elevation though as they all play on the side of the mountain, before going into some tight tunneled fairways. The brush will punish errant shots so keep your throws on target, to me this is a pro not a con.

It really is in the middle of nowhere CA. Sorry Pioneer. Its an hour and a half drive from my house, but I still make excuses to come up this way. Navigation can be a little tough the first time, would recommend printing the course map i uploaded here. But the course is fairly well marked if you pay attention.

This is a great course and if you're in the area a must stop and play. It can be tough to justify the gas money out this far though, I know, my wife keeps telling me.