Rotary Club DGC reviews
10
0
More squandered potential 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Nov 14, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
18 holes
Decent 5x10 concrete tees
Discatcher baskets
Decent 5x10 concrete tees
Discatcher baskets
Cons:
Only one concrete tee in a huge family park where newcomers could learn to play from nice short tees
Squandered use of wooded holes with odd doglegs and poke and pray entrances into the woods from an open tee shot
Hole 6 throwing at and likely into the adjacent ball fields is a disaster waiting to pull the course.
Distances that may test a pro, but no obstacles to challenge a advanced player on the open holes. Distances that simply discourage new players and kids.
Only one pin placement for lack of variety
Mostly flat and open greens for no putting challenge or fear of rollaways.
Squandered use of wooded holes with odd doglegs and poke and pray entrances into the woods from an open tee shot
Hole 6 throwing at and likely into the adjacent ball fields is a disaster waiting to pull the course.
Distances that may test a pro, but no obstacles to challenge a advanced player on the open holes. Distances that simply discourage new players and kids.
Only one pin placement for lack of variety
Mostly flat and open greens for no putting challenge or fear of rollaways.
Other Thoughts:
Definitely passable.
Not unique and mostly wide open
Wind can wreak some havoc on your throws (which may be the biggest challenge aside from odd wooded fairway shapes)
Many other users of the park tend to interfere with play, especially errant throws.
With as open and bland as the entire course was, why not kick it off with hole 1 playing 18 backwards??? You'd stand on top of a decent hill with a nice horizon view, lake at the bottom, to a basket 500' away and maybe 75' below for a potential ace run with a great rip!!!
Not unique and mostly wide open
Wind can wreak some havoc on your throws (which may be the biggest challenge aside from odd wooded fairway shapes)
Many other users of the park tend to interfere with play, especially errant throws.
With as open and bland as the entire course was, why not kick it off with hole 1 playing 18 backwards??? You'd stand on top of a decent hill with a nice horizon view, lake at the bottom, to a basket 500' away and maybe 75' below for a potential ace run with a great rip!!!
10
1
Rusty's Rotten Revenge 2+ years
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Aug 2, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
-Note: In this review, I'm going to be immature. I will not act my age. So either quit reading, or grab a snack and something to drink. I'll pour some coffee.
-This course is wide open. So wide open that you could play it at dark if the park lights are on by then. Because you hardly ever see woods. It's perfect for testing out new drivers and seeing how they glide.
-The signs are helpful and they now mark the short pads. They can be hard to spot, but if look closely then you will be able to find them. They are easier for players that haven't been playing as long. The tee pads are also lengthy and the baskets are in good shape.
-I liked a few holes out here. I will also say that there is a good course in here somewhere.
-This course is wide open. So wide open that you could play it at dark if the park lights are on by then. Because you hardly ever see woods. It's perfect for testing out new drivers and seeing how they glide.
-The signs are helpful and they now mark the short pads. They can be hard to spot, but if look closely then you will be able to find them. They are easier for players that haven't been playing as long. The tee pads are also lengthy and the baskets are in good shape.
-I liked a few holes out here. I will also say that there is a good course in here somewhere.
Cons:
-This is one of those places that is filled with open fields. Meaning that it was a place for Schwarz to design an open course. But every now and then, when he designs a hole, there is a great hole beside it, or somewhere in his designed hole, and he sucks all of the fun away from it and makes up something bland or just plain mediocrity in the woods. The open holes are so bland to where, from I've been told, ropes were set up in the C-tier back in June just to get people to sign up. Don't get me wrong, he's designed a few courses that are in my favorites. But those courses I am referring to do have a few letdowns.
-The open holes have nothing to them. The only obstacle you face in the open holes are maybe one tree and then basic math and physics. Just throw at the right height and right timing. The holes in the woods seemed unfinished, but intentionally because "That's part of the fun! Right?" Yeah sure.
-^^^^^ (Last statement was sarcasm). There are safety issues throughout the course. Usually doesn't bug me, but when the hole design isn't good, it does bug me. Because not only is there a road beside the fairway, or pedestrians walking, or a fenced field, but along with it you are playing a hole that isn't up to par as far as design goes.
-The open holes have nothing to them. The only obstacle you face in the open holes are maybe one tree and then basic math and physics. Just throw at the right height and right timing. The holes in the woods seemed unfinished, but intentionally because "That's part of the fun! Right?" Yeah sure.
-^^^^^ (Last statement was sarcasm). There are safety issues throughout the course. Usually doesn't bug me, but when the hole design isn't good, it does bug me. Because not only is there a road beside the fairway, or pedestrians walking, or a fenced field, but along with it you are playing a hole that isn't up to par as far as design goes.
Other Thoughts:
-Frank Liske is the equivalency of a long boring sad song that's an hour long with a vocalist so monotone and sleepy. Or the equivalency of the song "Blurred Lines" because it's so long, boring, and sucks so much.
-You won't find a hole here that you will remember. You'll forget most of them after maybe an hour.
-Frank Liske is to disc golf what Virgil's is to Root Beer and what Great Clips is to hair cuts.
-It's like receiving the greatest customer service from a beautiful blonde-headed chick at a store, and then you see all the good stuff they have, and you purchase some of their items, and you see that you got ripped off once you try and use it. That's how I felt when I stepped on every tee.
-It's like the way I felt when I saw that Rockstar Energy made a strawberry energy drink. Called " Rockstar Strawberry Whipped." Got so excited when I took the first sip, and was so frustrated when I tasted it. It's a strawberry and a whipped cream taste put together. Nice move Rockstar. Guess what I'm trying to say is that this is a perfect place for a course, but you get nothing out of it.
Hole by Hole: (Mostly going by the golds)
Note: Bear with me. As you made it this far.
#1: I realize it's normal for the first hole to be rather forgiving, but it's just a slight downhill that is wide open. There are trees back behind the pad, but don't bother.
The short pad is another bland toss. A hole you'd see on a feckless nine holer.
#2: Back uphill, and there are some trees back there maybe 320' ahead. But the basket is not around those trees, it's short of them. Another lame hole. And the short pad is an ace run with nothing to avoid except a shank. Yippee!
#3: There are some woods to the left, that are taken advantage of. So I was like, "Hmmmm, this one might be good." But nope. Drive is a wide open hyzer into a gap you cannot see. Now you may have a perfect drive with a nice skip, but what's more likely would be the retention trees pointing at you and saying "F U!" But don't worry, you'll probably three it.
#4: WAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-HA- HA- HAAAAA- HAAA. Ca-HOUGH! Ugh. This hole is to disc golf what GG Allin is to rock music. This hole idea has number two shmeared all around it. No real fairway for maybe 250'. Rusty probably wanted a wooded hole without taking time to make it any good. Come on! Chester State Park = Great wooded course.
#5: There is a good hole in this one. This could be a neat sidearm hole and having the pad be lined up with the parking lot around the fence. But instead, Rusty wanted to make it over the parking lot but angled toward a big tree. Nice pin position on the hill though. JUST MOVE THE PAD DAGGUMIT!
#6: Again, could be a great flick ho.... "OH NO! Let's push the pad back behind the tree and make this a bigger challenge." This could be a great anny hole around the ball field, but Rusty rubbed tomato jelly on the steak and eliminated that option because there is a tree preventing you from throwing an anny drive. But to be fair, the short pad is similar to a good idea.
#7: Another good hole in there somewhere. The walking path is in play most of the way. My complaint is the upshot, it has some bad trees that aren't needed. Not that bad of a hole, but could be better.
The short pad is terrible. It's a goofy slight anny in the woods making it flumpergumpity difficult to birdie.
#8: Interesting tee shot from the gold with a couple of trees. The hole is a 550ish par 4 that is completely bland for 450 feet. This hole would be better off throwing toward #9's basket and placing the actual further down a little.
The short pad is a wide open par 4. Not a tree in sight. One of the holes that isn't needed here.
#9: It's hole 8 except the other way around. Boring, wide open until you get to the guarded green. Nice green. The short pad is a bit more appropriate as you can throw a drive down to the green from there.
#10: We've issued a good hole here. Gentle left to right par 4 about 650' with trees in play the whole way. Short pad is a bit more bland. Good hole from the long, but the only rational option.
#11: Decent ace run onto a well guarded wooded green. Good hole.
#12: Woods are to the left side, let's make another good one and make a nice dogleg. Nope, fun while it lasted. Straight par 3 through two available openings. And no room for an anny either because of hanging limbs. I think Rusty was prohibited from using the woods to the left.
#13: Open and downhill. A little longer for a par 3, but still reachable. I think this hole might be fun in ten years because I think I saw a few tiny trees. But if #12 was in the woods, you'd be playing a better hole 13.
#14: Long par 4. Wide open. Plays 700+. But the green is wide open, while there are trees slightly further up and left to where the ditch is in play. Good hole in there somewhere.
#15: Oh wow! Lookie here. There are woods and a left turn 360' ahead. Maybe make a nice dogleg left? "Nope! just throw it however you like." Go through the gap in the woods or hyzer around them.
Still an okay par 3. But screams wasted potential. This hole could EASILY be better.
#16: If #15's basket was where I think it should be, we'd be followed by another dogleg left, but with the water in play. But since #15 is straight ahead from its pad. We are greeted with yet ANOTHER FRIGGIN 400' bomb.
#17: May renew your faith a little. Neat downhill drive through a fair gap. Another good hole, if anything a great one!
Now the short pad is a corny forced hyzer through the gap right on the walking trail. BLEH!
#18: Yes! We have reached the ending. Hear me chant 2 Timothy 4:7. But ends with it being a bland significant uphill bomb with the basket wide open on top of the hill.
-SO MUCH WASTED POTENTIAL. If you like this course, you might be thinking "OH! That Ben guy doesn't know anything. He's not out there designing courses! HE'S A PUNK!" Well, you're two for three on that! But about me not knowing anything............,
Oh no! You are severely mistaken! I know how hard it is to get a course into a public park. It takes time to get the approval. But when it's given, put great ideas in and think. What would make disc golfer's enjoy this course? When the county pays the money they pay, or what volunteers give to regulate it, show that you actually care and put your best effort into it! If a bunch of red lights pass, then you should find another place to put a course in.
-I couldn't stand this course. I'm giving it a 1.5 even though my enjoyment was maybe a 0.25-0.5. As it is well maintained.
-A course with more potential has been exacerbated in many places. And much to my surprise, a few people I know that go to my college enjoy playing here when they are home. Well, just wait until you see more courses. You'll be hooked in no time.
-Russ has done better. I've heard Lake's Edge is a great course and think that some holes at The Bridges are fun too. Chester State Park, Tyger River, PIPELINE! Awesome course! But sadly, this course is boring. And if you get heavy restrictions on where you can put holes and they so happen to interfere with a great hole design, it may be best to say "This probably won't work out."
I updated the review. I do think Schwarz could've done better, but I should've realized that he designed some pretty awesome courses. It seems like he got so many restrictions placed on him, but said "Eh, it's all good." If I designed a course and had restrictions to where it's as boring as this one, I'd say "Forget it. I'll find some place else."
-You won't find a hole here that you will remember. You'll forget most of them after maybe an hour.
-Frank Liske is to disc golf what Virgil's is to Root Beer and what Great Clips is to hair cuts.
-It's like receiving the greatest customer service from a beautiful blonde-headed chick at a store, and then you see all the good stuff they have, and you purchase some of their items, and you see that you got ripped off once you try and use it. That's how I felt when I stepped on every tee.
-It's like the way I felt when I saw that Rockstar Energy made a strawberry energy drink. Called " Rockstar Strawberry Whipped." Got so excited when I took the first sip, and was so frustrated when I tasted it. It's a strawberry and a whipped cream taste put together. Nice move Rockstar. Guess what I'm trying to say is that this is a perfect place for a course, but you get nothing out of it.
Hole by Hole: (Mostly going by the golds)
Note: Bear with me. As you made it this far.
#1: I realize it's normal for the first hole to be rather forgiving, but it's just a slight downhill that is wide open. There are trees back behind the pad, but don't bother.
The short pad is another bland toss. A hole you'd see on a feckless nine holer.
#2: Back uphill, and there are some trees back there maybe 320' ahead. But the basket is not around those trees, it's short of them. Another lame hole. And the short pad is an ace run with nothing to avoid except a shank. Yippee!
#3: There are some woods to the left, that are taken advantage of. So I was like, "Hmmmm, this one might be good." But nope. Drive is a wide open hyzer into a gap you cannot see. Now you may have a perfect drive with a nice skip, but what's more likely would be the retention trees pointing at you and saying "F U!" But don't worry, you'll probably three it.
#4: WAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-HA- HA- HAAAAA- HAAA. Ca-HOUGH! Ugh. This hole is to disc golf what GG Allin is to rock music. This hole idea has number two shmeared all around it. No real fairway for maybe 250'. Rusty probably wanted a wooded hole without taking time to make it any good. Come on! Chester State Park = Great wooded course.
#5: There is a good hole in this one. This could be a neat sidearm hole and having the pad be lined up with the parking lot around the fence. But instead, Rusty wanted to make it over the parking lot but angled toward a big tree. Nice pin position on the hill though. JUST MOVE THE PAD DAGGUMIT!
#6: Again, could be a great flick ho.... "OH NO! Let's push the pad back behind the tree and make this a bigger challenge." This could be a great anny hole around the ball field, but Rusty rubbed tomato jelly on the steak and eliminated that option because there is a tree preventing you from throwing an anny drive. But to be fair, the short pad is similar to a good idea.
#7: Another good hole in there somewhere. The walking path is in play most of the way. My complaint is the upshot, it has some bad trees that aren't needed. Not that bad of a hole, but could be better.
The short pad is terrible. It's a goofy slight anny in the woods making it flumpergumpity difficult to birdie.
#8: Interesting tee shot from the gold with a couple of trees. The hole is a 550ish par 4 that is completely bland for 450 feet. This hole would be better off throwing toward #9's basket and placing the actual further down a little.
The short pad is a wide open par 4. Not a tree in sight. One of the holes that isn't needed here.
#9: It's hole 8 except the other way around. Boring, wide open until you get to the guarded green. Nice green. The short pad is a bit more appropriate as you can throw a drive down to the green from there.
#10: We've issued a good hole here. Gentle left to right par 4 about 650' with trees in play the whole way. Short pad is a bit more bland. Good hole from the long, but the only rational option.
#11: Decent ace run onto a well guarded wooded green. Good hole.
#12: Woods are to the left side, let's make another good one and make a nice dogleg. Nope, fun while it lasted. Straight par 3 through two available openings. And no room for an anny either because of hanging limbs. I think Rusty was prohibited from using the woods to the left.
#13: Open and downhill. A little longer for a par 3, but still reachable. I think this hole might be fun in ten years because I think I saw a few tiny trees. But if #12 was in the woods, you'd be playing a better hole 13.
#14: Long par 4. Wide open. Plays 700+. But the green is wide open, while there are trees slightly further up and left to where the ditch is in play. Good hole in there somewhere.
#15: Oh wow! Lookie here. There are woods and a left turn 360' ahead. Maybe make a nice dogleg left? "Nope! just throw it however you like." Go through the gap in the woods or hyzer around them.
Still an okay par 3. But screams wasted potential. This hole could EASILY be better.
#16: If #15's basket was where I think it should be, we'd be followed by another dogleg left, but with the water in play. But since #15 is straight ahead from its pad. We are greeted with yet ANOTHER FRIGGIN 400' bomb.
#17: May renew your faith a little. Neat downhill drive through a fair gap. Another good hole, if anything a great one!
Now the short pad is a corny forced hyzer through the gap right on the walking trail. BLEH!
#18: Yes! We have reached the ending. Hear me chant 2 Timothy 4:7. But ends with it being a bland significant uphill bomb with the basket wide open on top of the hill.
-SO MUCH WASTED POTENTIAL. If you like this course, you might be thinking "OH! That Ben guy doesn't know anything. He's not out there designing courses! HE'S A PUNK!" Well, you're two for three on that! But about me not knowing anything............,
Oh no! You are severely mistaken! I know how hard it is to get a course into a public park. It takes time to get the approval. But when it's given, put great ideas in and think. What would make disc golfer's enjoy this course? When the county pays the money they pay, or what volunteers give to regulate it, show that you actually care and put your best effort into it! If a bunch of red lights pass, then you should find another place to put a course in.
-I couldn't stand this course. I'm giving it a 1.5 even though my enjoyment was maybe a 0.25-0.5. As it is well maintained.
-A course with more potential has been exacerbated in many places. And much to my surprise, a few people I know that go to my college enjoy playing here when they are home. Well, just wait until you see more courses. You'll be hooked in no time.
-Russ has done better. I've heard Lake's Edge is a great course and think that some holes at The Bridges are fun too. Chester State Park, Tyger River, PIPELINE! Awesome course! But sadly, this course is boring. And if you get heavy restrictions on where you can put holes and they so happen to interfere with a great hole design, it may be best to say "This probably won't work out."
I updated the review. I do think Schwarz could've done better, but I should've realized that he designed some pretty awesome courses. It seems like he got so many restrictions placed on him, but said "Eh, it's all good." If I designed a course and had restrictions to where it's as boring as this one, I'd say "Forget it. I'll find some place else."
