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Shaver Rec. Center - Original

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DiscGolfCraig
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Experience: 19.9 years 597 played 543 reviews
3.00 star(s)

A muddy, harlot of a course.

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:May 18, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Ah, Shaver. Like a French harlot who's lived a hard life, and smoked two packs a day, time has not been kind. Throw in the fact the course is being overrun by a mud run obstacle course, and this course looks and feels much older than its years.
- Writing a prose would be more appropriate than listing the pros for this course. Needless to say, there were some good things about this course if you look hard enough.
- There is a fair level of challenge to this course. Course has two longer holes (#3 at 555 and #5 at 400) that require a couple of well-crafted shots. Other holes offer their own challenges from elevation changes (#11 is a great downhiller), tight fairways (really enjoyed #14), doglegs and the occasional mud run obstacle to counter (watch out for the climbing wall on #3).
- On many holes, this course forces you to throw good shots. Bad shots, missed fairways and/or bad angles will lead to you scrambling for par or worse throughout your round.
- Add to that, there is a strong risk/reward factor. You'll have to throw well, and be aggressive on a good many holes to see chances for deuces. Failing to hit those shots will lead to the aforementioned scrambles to salvage par or settle for bogeys.
- For the most part, the course does get better throughout. The back nine was much better than the front, with more exciting holes, great layouts and a general overall quality. I thought holes #10, 11, 14 & 17 all stood out for their superior quality. Have about 10 more holes as good as those, and this could be a great course.

Cons:

It's very fitting that Shaver hosts mud run events. That's essentially what this entire course is. On a dry day, this course is predominately dirt. On a bad day, it's mud. Don't expect to see grass here, there is none other than the small patch on #12.
- The biggest problem at this course is the overall quality of the land itself, from erosion problems to the dirt and mud feel. I've played other courses that have erosion problems - Reedy Creek in Charlotte, Johnson Street in High Point come to mind as prime examples. The big difference is that those courses are around 25 years old (built in '89 & '91 respectively), while Shaver is listed as being built in 2004. That could be the year the course was redesigned or something else that I'm not aware of. Add in to that to mud run course that weaves throughout the disc golf course, and it seems this problem may only be getting worse. In an ideal situation, the baskets would be pulled for one to two years, grass and shrubs plant to sustain the land, and the quality and makeup of the design would be greatly improved. Good luck convincing people to make that happen though.
- Course has a bad flow to it. The front and back 9 cross over multiple times. Add to that other awkward transitions, notably trying to find hole #10 and other spots where the closest tee is not the next hole (for example, after finishing #7, you're closer to the tee for #17; after finishing #10, you're closer to #14). Point being, if you're not careful, it could be easy to skip or miss holes. Whereas you can't fix land maintenance problems easily, you can add/improve signage by adding more arrows and signs.
- Some holes are really crammed together. If this course were crowded, on certain stretches of the course, you would have to keep an eye out for errant shots on other holes. In my round, I had a disc land on a different hole twice due to a bounce off a tree. Multiply that by a bunch of hackers, and it could make things interesting.
- The dogtrack feel to the course adds an unnatural luck factor, both good and bad. On the good side, discs can skim along the dirt, adding extra distance to shots. It gives it a ball golf feel, having your shot rolling towards the target on the green. On the bad side, due to the erosion and no undergrowth, discs can easily start rolling down a hill, turning a great tee shot that's in birdie range, into a difficult up and down.
- With this being a dirt track, it only takes a little rain to turn this into a mud.
- Final, it's a major disappointment seeing this course being overtaken by a mud run obstacle course. I guess the mud runs are the new flavor of the month. I hope when that fad passes, this course can turn into something better.

Other Thoughts:

Shaver just feels like a major disappointment, and I don't think it has much to do with any local disc golf support. It really feels like this course has become an afterthought at the park, and I don't know how much support from locals can change things.
- On the walk from #9 to #10 (once I found #10), I did see a basket in the grass by the ball fields. Why not use some of that grassy space to build a couple of holes to alleviate the crowded feel and to distance yourself from the mud course? The course could use some more visually appealing holes, if not just a simple does of variety.
- I was a bit perplexed by this. Near the first hole is a sign that says to not trash the park. To the immediate left of this sign is a humongous mud/dirt field used for the obstacle course. Add to that all the other problems, and I wonder how you can trash something that's already been ruined.
- My other rumination while playing is as follows. If mud runners are trying to be the tough/hardcore types, pushing themselves on artificial courses (don't we all need to know how to climb an inclined wall pulling on a rope?); shouldn't they also learn how to avoid being hit by a disc? What's more practical, climbing a rope course or learning how to dodge a flying object, especially if you're on a disc golf course? We're only adding to the challenge.
- This course just needs some love and attention, a proverbial big hug, so to speak. If the course won't get its proper attention, maybe these baskets could be better served, and a new course built, at some other local park.
- I could see Shaver, at it's optimum, being a really solid course. It's an excellent compliment to the championship layout. Great one-two punch.
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3OrangeWhips
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Experience: 14.8 years 96 played 40 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Shaver Recreation Center 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 25, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Nice wooded course with lots of elevation changes and a creek running through most of the holes (although it was just about dry when we played). There are defined fairways but you need to execute well planned shots to follow the twists and turns. There are some good birdie ops here.

Cons:

Holes 2 through 7. As other reviews indicate, these holes are unlike the rest of the "normal" wooded course. They have fairways about 25 feet wide plowed through incredibly steep brush. If an errant throw gets into that stuff, your only hope is to drop back into the fairway. They all seem to follow the same pattern of a really long gentle LH/RH curve, then an extreme 90 degree dogleg to the basket. Because the fairways are completely uncovered, the ground is dry, rocky, and there are plenty of roots sticking up where bushes were cutoff about 3" off the ground. This surface will tear up your feet and you really need to be careful not to catch a rock/root/stump on your runups. These holes aren't too bad on their own, but six in a row is way too repetitive and had us wondering if we were going to stop playing after the front nine. Fortunately, we were able to determine that the rest of the course was different and we played all 18. There were also lots of yellow jackets everywhere when we played; I am glad only one of them got me.

Other Thoughts:

Whew...those long, dry rocky holes were a challenge. Overall a fun course to play.
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htorbit
Experience: 20.9 years 26 played 6 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Fun Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 14, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Fun woods course. Holes 1-8 are bulldozed fairways through thick woods and not so pretty but the beautiful back side makes up for it. This course has some of the best concrete tee pads. Course has all the shots with some elevation changes. The times I have played there hasn't been many other disc golfers so it feels like you have the course to yourself. Some holes have alternate pin positions. Benches on most holes. Trash cans throughout course. Practice basket.

Cons:

How thick the shule is 2 feet off the fairway on most of the front nine.

Other Thoughts:

This course will make you learn a sidearm if you don't already have one. Very technical. Fun course! Nice park with walking trail, gym and athletic fields.
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Master_Locke
Experience: 19.9 years 11 played 2 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Shaver Complex 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 30, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Easy to follow course. The front nine and the back nine both begin and end next to the parking lot. Some challenging holes. The from nine is a series of 25' wide fairways surrounded by trees on both sides. Most front nine holes require a 100'-150' drive then some twist/turns at the end. The range in elevation on the back nine allows for some difficult trick shots. Overall enjoyable course

Cons:

Repetitive on front nine, narrow fairways, all requiring a 150''+ drive before the disc tails off, otherwise your in the woods. Several holes are blind drives (unless you walk 3/4 of the distance down the fairway) you can't see the baskets.

Other Thoughts:

Look forward to playing again now that i know where some of the baskets actually are and how severe some of the cut backs are in the fairway.

Course is very tightly packed, and most holes share boundaries; however, they've done well with the space they used. Course seems well kept.
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Jaysauls
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Experience: 14.8 years 129 played 71 reviews
3.00 star(s)

A Nice Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 23, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

I liked the wooded fairways. That kept it scenic and tested my ability to keep the disc where I wanted it. And since I don't have a cannon for an arm, except for one hole, it was relatively short. I was able land quite a few birds which made it fun.

Cons:

Who ever designed this course must have really liked like going 250' then a hard lef/right (sometimes both!). Even though I don't have a big arm I do like to blast it down the fairway and watch it sail, but there wasn't many opportunities to do it.

Other Thoughts:

I only found one stupid hole and it was #9. I mean, c'mon, who's disc flies 100' up hill, turns a hard 100 degree turn to the left then hunts the basket? If they cleared this hole out a bit to give another shot at the basic, it'd be ok.

Now, I liked #11, a shortblind shot over a hill that if thown well can give you the nice sound of crashing chains
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rcracer757
Experience: 20.1 years 19 played 17 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 5, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

A really good hike through the woods while chucking your disc. The lay out was super easy to fallow.

Cons:

This is not a course for beginners. Very tight fairways and a few holes are almost identical to one another.

Other Thoughts:

I do hope to make it to this course again if I am ever in the area. I am 10 hours away so doubtful.
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danhyzer
Gold level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 36.1 years 2301 played 125 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 30, 2008 Played the course:once

Pros:

wooded course, some decent elevation changes, nice and long cement tees, next tee signs

Cons:

First 7 fairways are about 25 feet wide and flat.

Other Thoughts:

Community Center adjacent to park as well as a walking path. Be careful of your speed.
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