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Ship Rock DGC

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HyooMac
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Experience: 6.8 years 419 played 387 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Something for Everyone

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 20, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ Starts with a dramatic downhill, a downhill out of a chute, and a narrow uphill along a steep hillside. There are open bombers (uphill and downhill) and tight corridors. The layout incorporates an old stone building foundation, a drop off a cliff, and several holes running alongside a river


+ Two layouts (two baskets on the first hole, then alternate tees for the majority of the remaining holes)


+ Excellent poured tees, DisCatchers, great signage


+ Designers do a lot with roped OB, mandos and a few flagged landing areas to create challenges, because much of the property is pretty wide open with a few rolling hills



Cons:

- It gets pretty dull in the last third of the course. In this way Ship Rock reminded me of Brandywine in Delaware which has spectacular views and amazing elevation changes, but during the back nine at both courses I found myself thinking: "oh - we're going back up that hill we went up earlier and then came down...great."



Two holes felt a little gimmicky to me, although they're playable and others might like them:


- Hole #1 Gold is essentially a horseshoe-shaped flightpath with a huge downhill as you turn around almost 180 degrees and head to the pin, which is flagged with OB and an island green. It's 700', but unless you've played it several times, the tightness of the corner with the OB looming sets up a likely teeshot/dink/dink/dunk for par


- Hole #11 is probably the stuff of local legends: short, up over a bluff and then hard dogleg left leading to a cliff's edge with a basket straight down with water next to it (the drop is so steep that you're literally peering down at the top of the basket). The risk of the water is so great that the smart way to play the hole is to chip it over the bluff, drop it down to the basket, and tap in for par. While it's fun to stand on the tee and think about where the basket is, it's sort of a minigolf hole



Other Thoughts:

~ "Somewhat Cart Friendly" is accurate. I used my Zuca and while it was fine for most of the course, there are several really difficult spots, like Hole #11, and especially the transition to the 12th tee, with a long narrow path through the woods that takes you to the base of the tee (and yeah, you then have to climb up to the elevated tee - which you passed minutes ago). The narrow fairway up the third hole and the hills in the later parts of the course get a bit tiring with a cart. If I played again, I'd leave the damn cart in the truck.


~ Much of the layout plays along a narrow arc of the property. WIth multiple tees and holes running in different directions along this fairly confined space, navigation is pretty confusing for the first timer. I strongly recommend playing with a regular here (whose advice on playing #1 and #11 will likely be of great value)


~ Ship Rock is a very good course featuring alternate layouts, which puts it above nearby 18's like Herr, and even the dual tee layout at Buchmiller. The tight OB and the couple of tricky holes make you want to play more than once - because you'll likely do better with a little experience


~ Overall, the limited available land at Ship Rock just doesn't lend itself to interesting holes like you find at Klines, the new course at Fairview, or the best of the bunch: Muddy Run. But they've done a lot with the land at Ship Rock, and they've doubled down with the great signage and poured tees. It's well worth playing when you're in the area




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jamespenn
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Experience: 4.2 years 35 played 36 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Everybody gets a challenge

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 18, 2022 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Nice long cement tee pads on most holes. The tee pads on the side of the hill are rubber but in excellent shape

Two tee pads on most holes with reasonable pars assigned to both pads. The really short par 3s have one pad.

Surprisingly tough for being a generally open course

Long and mostly wide course, yet it's compactly laid out, like a ball golf course. You're never far from your car, or the port-a-potty

Several unique and fun holes.

You probably won't lose a disc unless you are way off target. There isn't any rough to speak of, and the river can be in play but the baskets aren't right on the edge.

It's kind of long for a beginner, but a beginner can have fun here. I'd add a second basket on pretty much every hole for the beginners. Put one in the foundation on #5 for example.

Cons:

Flooding is a problem near the river.

There are some unexciting holes in empty fields. Not many though, and they can act like a little mental break. If every hole beat you up, you'd eventually get sick of it.

Mostly one basket per hole. I'd add a second on almost every hole.

I'm not a big fan of holes with water directly behind the basket. There are 4 of those here, although you'd have to go 40 feet long to reach the water.

Other Thoughts:

This is a very golf-course-like disc golf course. It's not on a ball golf course, but it feels like an upscale public course, set on rolling hills, with nice wide corridors that go back and forth across the field. The course feels like it was designed by people who play ball golf, as there are not a lot of shots that are blockaded by rows of trees. There is quite a bit of OB, some holes are roped off to create corridors, others have the river alongside or behind, and there is also a cornfield that comes into play on the first hole and the last 2 holes. It's challenging, but you can definitely make it around without a bunch of OB, and still par the holes.

#1 is a nice downhill throw to a blind landing, it's fun to see where you ended up. #2 and #3 play down a hillside and then back up, with lots of trees. #5 is a very fun hole, uphill and over an old stone house foundation. Don't get caught in the basement! 6 and 7 are mostly open doglegs with a row of trees in the middle. 8 is a pleasant downhill par 3, with another row of trees to deal with. You have the same row again on 9. 10 is a blind left to right shot on a wooded hillside. Much is said about the bizarre 11th hole, but I think it's a lot of fun. It's just a short shot up a little hill, but then the basket is off a ledge and down about 20 feet, next to a creek. You possibly could go into the creek if you get too aggressive, but the play here is definitely to crash your disc into the huge tree at the top of the cliff and let the disc fall to the bottom. You'll be right next to the basket. Is that a little too random? Antithetical to the normal play of avoiding trees? Maybe, but unlike the typical plinko poke and pray hole, if you hit the right tree, in the right spot, you're parked.

The course kind of slacks off a bit from here. 12 is a pretty hole along the river with a beautiful wooden porch to throw from, and another row of trees to go through, but the tee is unfortunately so high that it's difficult to get to the row of trees, let alone to the basket 50 feet beyond. 13 is a nothing hole in a field. There is some water behind and to the right, but it's not very close. 14 and 16 are uneventful and also unplayable if it is wet, as the baskets will be in 2-3 inch deep water. Unfortunately water gets trapped in a field next to the river and has nowhere to go. If you go when it's wet, you'll be skipping these two holes. 17 and 18 are a little more exciting, as you make your way up the edge of a cornfield and up a hill to the parking lot.

Overall this is a fun course. There are only a few shots where you'll have major tree trouble, so you aren't blasting discs into trees all day. Also, it's tough to make a bunch of birdies, but relatively easy to make a bunch of pars. It's at just that right distance and Pars where you can get 18 pars if you're relatively careful and can throw it 225 feet with a little accuracy, but it's really tough to make 10 birdies. The only par I would change is #6 from the silver tee. That should be a par 5. It's a pretty long uphill climb and most people playing the silvers need 3 of their best shots to get anywhere near the basket in 3.

I would suggest moving the baskets for 14 and 16 away from the water and closer to the tree line. I played in a tournament there a couple of weeks ago and they did put temporary baskets out, about 50 feet farther away from the water. They worked fine and that would keep the entire course playable even if it's wet.

At a recent tournament there, Even par from the silver tees was a 922 rating, so while it is beginner friendly, it's also a challenge. It's not as grand or magnificent as its neighbor down the road, Muddy Run, but it's a worthy cousin.


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Ryal
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Experience: 6.9 years 222 played 184 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Smooth Sailing At Ship Rock 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 22, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

+ Plenty of wide-open shots for the player to use their unbridled full power. Most holes are 350 feet or longer.
+ The wooded holes have some tricky shots.
+ Many elevation challenges: some abrupt and some gradual.
+ Tee signs are sturdily built and anchored showing the distance, par and a diagram of the hole.
+ Very pleasant venue for golfing. From start to finish, the player is surrounded by farms, forest, and fields with a river thrown in during the back nine. It's very peaceful here.
+ The grounds were magnificently maintained when I was there. I saw no trash despite the perceived absence of trash cans. Please do not litter!
+ Most of the fairways were immensely wide. They were easily distinguishable from the rough.

Cons:

- Going from one wide open hole to another starts to feel tedious, especially during the back nine.
- The tee pads need work. Rubber mats anchored onto wood dry out easily and start to lose their rigidity with use. Some did not feel solid and study under my feet, and some were damaged such as 5, 8, and 13.
- Some of the holes are played right alongside each other. For example, holes 4, 6 and 7 are played on the same meadow with yellow ropes indicating the barriers. This risks errant throws flying toward other players and/or having to wait for others to reclaim their discs before you can throw.
- What few truly wooded holes there are do not last long and do not satisfy the itch for perfect placement.
- As mentioned earlier, there are no trash cans, which may cause lazy players to cast litter on the ground. There were very few benches or makeshift seating that I saw. Players who feel fatigued from Ship Rock's large footprint might want a place to sit.
- Some baskets were missing their 'next tee' signs.
- I don't remember seeing a lost disc box.

Other Thoughts:

I must give credit where it's due and mention holes 3 and 11. I don't think I've ever played holes quite like these two. 3 is a steady uphill throw into a narrow corridor of dense trees. Not only that, there is a pretty steep hill just off to the right. One bad ricochet, and you've got trouble. It forced me to be a better player. 11, my personal favorite, starts off level in the woods and then plummets straight down off a cliff to a pin with a river nearby. It's beautiful to look at and just a blast to experience.

As for the course as a whole, Ship Rock DGC is definitely a course geared more towards the wide open throws. Bring your most glide-worthy discs and a pair of comfortable sneakers to get the most out of it and just go nuts. However, it has just enough variety spliced within to keep it from feeling too repetitive. Hole 5 jumps to mind as it features a mysterious old structure of stone. I'm guessing it was someone's old farmstead hundreds of years ago. And the basket finishes atop a hill overlooking the structure.

Although, the open holes on the back nine start to suffer from a lack of originality. It is a good thing that they have some hills in the second half of the back nine to tell them apart, but that's largely it.

Come to Ship Rock if you relish the thought of throwing your hardest in wide open fields. If you prefer more technical and controlled throws, there is still some great fun to be had here, but this course caters to the power arms out there. I would sooner recommend it more to power players than I would to technical players, but both can get some fine enjoyment at this course. Set sail and go play Ship Rock.
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sidewinder22
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17.8 years 302 played 198 reviews
3.50 star(s)

We're gonna need a bigger boat, how about a Ship? 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 4, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 Discatcher baskets, rubber tee pads, and nice tee signs for blue or advanced level player. Impressive course layout using every bit of the available land and maximizing it. Excellent use of the elevation and terrain providing some truly unique holes. Lots of long open holes to test out your arm and a couple short technical wooded holes to test your accuracy. Navigation is decent. Disc golf only park.

Cons:

Only one set of tees and basket placements. Lower levels of the course prone to flooding and mud. Not much of a park amenity wise, it feels like you are entering a private course on a farm in the middle of nowhere in Amish Country. High number of long open holes gets a little repetitive and in summer it's hot with little shade throughout the course. Parallel fairways on the open holes are a little close for comfort and OB lines are used to help keep you honest.

Other Thoughts:

Starting off hole 1 was awesome and unique, my favorite hole here, you throw a massive downhill bomb and make a U-turn around the woods where the basket is tucked in. Hole 2 was another fun downhill shot but short and with the creek behind the basket. Hole 3 was a short uphill technical wooded hole with a severe left to right slope, another great hole. Hole 4 is wide open downhill par 4 hole with the basket on a fast green. Hole 5 was a unique hole with the remains of an old barn and the basket on a mound. Hole 6 plays uphill parallel to hole 4 and is a long open par 5. Hole 7 plays downhill parallel to 6 and 15 and is a fairly easy par 4. Hole 8 and 9 are fairly flat and straight forward open par 3s. Hole 10 takes you back into the woods briefly for a solid left to right par 3.

Hole 11 is probably the signature hole even though it's only 204' long it's the most unique hole I've ever played and have mixed feelings about it. You tee off looking at a right to left turning hole with a couple small trees scattered in the fairway and then you come to the cliff with the basket about 35' below you and water right behind it. It's crazy to go for the basket off the tee because you are likely to end up in the water and have about zero chance of acing, although a circle 3 is not a bad option and hopefully you can find your disc in the water. Laying up to the edge of the cliff you have a shot at a deuce, small chance and it's unlike any other deuce you have ever tried to hit almost straight down, I nailed the center of the top of the basket and narrowly missed getting wet. Holes 12, 13 and 14 were fairly boring, flatfish, open and 14 was long. Hole 15 is a long open sloping uphill par 4. Hole 16 plays back parallel to 15 downhill and you get to throw a bomb here on an easy par 4. Hole 17 plays back uphill and next to a cornfield that tapers the fairway down on a par 4 and the basket tucked between a couple pine trees. Hole 18 is a long uphill par 3 that takes you back to the parking lot, kind of a bland ending as most people will par it.

Ship Rock is a little weird and you will see the reviews all over the place rating wise. Generally I prefer more wooded courses even though the open holes here do provide some variety. It's not really my cup of tea, but if you really like long open holes this place may be your dream with 2/3 of the holes being fairly wide open. I'm rating this course as very good, as it has a couple amazing and unique holes and elevation is awesome, but overall the rest of course is just ok. Due to that it's not quite what I'd consider a destination course, but if you are anywhere near the course I highly recommend playing.
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Radarx
Experience: 14.2 years 80 played 12 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Better than expected 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 5, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Excellent use of property and a well layed out course with several signature holes. The course played much longer than I expected but several of those longer holes play downhill for some spectacular drives. Mostly open course with about 4 very unique wood holes. Most of the longer open holes have some sort of elevation involved that gives the course its "fun factor" to play and keeps the holes from becoming to similar. Course flow worked out really well bringing you in and out of the woods throughout the course.

A lot of work seems to have gone into the course featuring new signs & tees, platform tee, rope rails, elevated tees in the hill side and good clearing of the wooded holes & paths to next hole. I thought it looked like a well established course even though it's new.

It's a great addition to the Lancaster area courses and a real change of pace by adding this style of course.

Signature holes in my opinion 5, 15 & 16. Most unique hole I ever played - 11

Cons:

Hole 4/6/7 - the fairways need a little more work to determine OB. There is a rope fence but it's still a little difficult to determine and see if playing for the first time. Perhaps a low solid construction fence or hang something from the rope. Hole 6 in my opinion should have a mando to keep you from throwing over 7 fairway. I totally missed 7's mando.

I played on a mostly frozen ground but really concerned this course could become very muddy at times on the lower holes.

Needs directional arrow top of hill on 3 pointing to 4 tee.

Hole 9 should have a mando to keep you from throwing into 13 fairway. Needs directional arrow on 9 basket pointing at 10 tee otherwise everyone without map will walk to 13 tee first.

No rec or beginner tees on the longer holes.

Other Thoughts:

If you are looking for a longer course which seems to be trending these days, this is the course for you. If you are a beginner you will struggle with length but this course offers an excellent chance to work on longer drives with less concern of lost of disc.

With Buchmiller only 10 min away it makes a great combo day but this course is worth the travel by itself.

Need a couple of long poles (conduit) or branches on holes 2 & 11 to get your disc out of the water.

Would be nice to have a port-a-pot., picnic table & loss disc return area.

Real interested to see what this course is like in the summer. Course is just missing enough minor things to keep me from rating this a 4 but the course is well on its way.

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CrispyDisc
Experience: 20.9 years 71 played 2 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Worth Playing! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 22, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

Excellent tee pads (rubber fly pads that grip every time). Great Hole signage, making it easy to identify distance as well as the location of the pin. The course is easy to navigate with arrows marking the direction to the next tee pad. The course loop brings you back to the parking area to refill water/ grab food etc on hole 6. There is a Variety of elevation, distance and mixture of open and wooded holes. Water hazards come into play on a few holes brings in a new factor many people are not used to.

Cons:

Difficult to understand OB lines first time through the course although this is common for any course the first time you play it.
Can be hard at times to find you disc in the fairway even though the grass is cut, keep an eye on your plastic even if it lands in the fairway! Needs a trash can in the parking lot

Other Thoughts:

The course plays extremely well, with minimal walking distances between holes. The first time through the course the OB lines can be difficult to understand but its nothing out of the ordinary for someone playing a new course. Each hole has its own character with little if any repeated shots, with the exception of the longer holes where your unloading some serious distance off the tee pad to set up a second shot for a potential birdie. Love the fact that its 8,333 ft and a par 64. Beginners might get discouraged by the distance, but over time this will improve their game and help them to develop as a golfer. This course definitely suits a player with longer distance drives (400+ ft) if you really want to shoot a hot round and attack the longer holes. Very fun, can't wait to play again!
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