+ Course maintenance is excellent: on the Memorial Day weekend that I played, it was well-mowed and spotless. Each hole has three poured concrete tees, and the baskets are in good shape. The layout is largely open, with some baskets tucked into treed areas. But the course still plays as "technical" - on a windy day, the holes near the shoreline require very specific lines to avoid rough and OB


+ Nicknamed "The Beast" it's a long bomber course (9110' / 8120' / 6689') that shows you right away what it's gonna do. Hole #1 starts with a bang: 600+ par 4 from the white tees with an uphill finish, with the pin up beyond a bowl with staked OB. Then, a 700+' par 5, and another 600+ par 4, and so on. In fact, the shortest hole of the first third of the course is the 400' par 3 hole #4


+ Being right on the coast of Lake Ontario, long stretches of the course are pretty flat. A handful of holes (#8, #12 and #13) were cleverly designed to take advantage of the little bit of available elevation change, and they're a welcome addition


+ The green on hole #15 is circled by a ring of boulders, and at 217' from the Blue and the White (153' from the Red) can be played as an island hole (see card, not sign)


+ The basket on #18 is up on a man made mound, adding extra challenge and a finishing note to the course

- Strangely, the really good course signage doesn't include specifics about OB, which is described in detail on the paper scorecard. But if you don't have a scorecard, you won't know that discs that go over the cliff on the shoreline are played inbounds unless they land in the water, and you won't know to play #15 as an island green. The tee signs include really good maps and show each of the three tee locations with lengths. If you're using uDisc and don't take a paper scorecard, you won't know about about some of the OB

~ There are a couple of weak holes that I initially was going to include as "cons." But on reflection, I think the weakness of their design is only a problem if you haven't played them before, or walked them before your initial throw. So I'll describe them here in case you're thinking of playing the course for the first time:

- Hole #7 plays as a dogleg left, then finishes with a 90 degree turn to the right (think of an upside-down question mark [?] with the basket being the period). The sides are thickly wooded - they've probably grown a lot since the course opened. The best-placed shot leaves you with a 50+ footer through an alley with branches creating a ceiling. It's not a terrible hole, but it's a 200 footer that will most often be played as a dink-and-dunk for par

- Hole #9 needs to be walked to be understood (and appreciated). From the tees you're looking downhill through a thickly treed fairway to a clearing. A bad kick or an early fade could mean a rollaway to water that's hidden along the left side (that's one of the reasons to walk it first!). The basket is not visible from the tee: it's perched up on a hillside to the right, past the clearing with water curling in close at the base of the steep hill. This is a par 3 that's only about 300', but the "S" shape of the path to the basket probably means the hole is best played as a careful downhill layup into the clearing





RECOMMENDED COMBINATIONS:

There's a big difference between the two courses on this property. Playing WIndrush Alley didn't prepare me for how much more difficult The Beast is. I struggled due to the distance, since my best drives are under 300'. The course overwhelmed me, but it was never unfair. The Whites on The Beast are more like the Blues I find at other courses - and the Blues at The Beast are more like Golds elsewhere. Given my length, I would have done a lot better to have shifted to the Reds when moving from WIndrush to The Beast

Even though The Beast gets your attention, don't dunk on Windrush Alley. While Windrush is considerably shorter and scores easier, it features a lot more wooded, technical holes. The challenges of the two courses are different and complement one another. Play both courses - and then play them again!

- Great course with every shot in your bag utilized.
- Good mix in hole length with long bombers requiring accuracy and risk/reward to short technical shots.
- Gorgeous views of Lake Ontario on the back nine.
- Adventure golf in every sense, with the hike through feeling like a journey through a stunning natural landscape.
- Due to the remote location it tends to be less crowded than a course of this caliber should be.
- The lake breeze in summer offers a cooling relief to the limited shade (can be difficult to throw in if unfamiliar with wind golf).
- Good use of limited elevation.
- Multiple concrete tees to cater to noodle-arms and bombers alike.

- Not much here, little shade through certain stretches.
- Not for beginners as rough is very dense and lost discs are a distinct possibility (conversely is finding discs while searching)
- Not for the physically unfit as it is long and hot in the summer sun.
- Can be brutally windy especially in the spring/winter/fall.
- Takes a strong time commitment from the drive there to the overall length.

If you have the chance to play this course and you don't, you're really missing out on the up and coming best course in New York.

-Multiple concrete tees.
-New signs at each hole.
-Nice baskets.
-Wide variety of shots needed.
-Clean and mowed often.
-Shorter "warm up" course next door.
-Camping available.
-Bathrooms near the tee pad for 1.
-Great views of the lake.
-Challenging without being ridiculous.
-Most holes are well thought out and use the landscape to provide the challenge.

-High wind. Rarely is there little to no wind here. It can make some holes tricky, especially 13 and 14, as they play along Lake Ontario.
-Once you start this course there is no loop back to the parking lot/bathrooms, and it is a long course.
-Some of the holes are very long which will be frustrating to newer players.
-Hole 8 is a bit on the ridiculous side and the only hole I dread walking up to. Many people play only from the red tees.

The Beast is a long course that few will ever master due to its technical shots and high wind making shot placement difficult. With that said, it's not always super windy so don't be afraid to test your arm out.
Make sure you bring plenty of fluids and sun screen during the warmer months. Most holes have fairways in the direct sun. Also make sure you carry your trash out, as the park has a carry in carry out policy.
This course easily has some of the longest holes in the region, so if you feel like stretching out your arm and trying out some new drivers, grab a campsite at Lakeside State Park (roughly $21 a night) and make a weekend of playing two great courses along the shores of Lake Ontario.
(Side note: to go to the nearest gas station for ice, water, beer, subs, Leave the park and continue to Rt 18 and take a right (head west). The store will be a mile and a half on your right. Can't miss it)

- A great variety of holes (200 feet to 750 feet), hyzer and anhyzer lines.
- A few wooded holes and baskets tucked into the woods, several wide open holes and a few amazing holes right along the bluff above Lake Ontario.
- Over 8,000 feet from the white tees; the first three holes start you off with over 600 feet each.
- Immaculate, no trash at all and well mowed.
- Some highlight holes that you'll remember: #1, 3, 8, 9, 13, 18.
- Not crowded because it is so off the beaten path.
- Has another very good but shorter course right on the property (Shore Winds).
- There is a nice campground right in this park.
- Concrete pads, nice baskets and decent signs.

- Wind can be an issue; especially on the open holes along the lake.
- Has some "made up" out of bounds (though I'm new at the game, I just don't understand the need for "mandatories" or "the high grass in the middle of the fairway is out of bounds").
- There is an entrance fee.

Even though it is about an 80 minute drive for me to get here; this course and its companion course make it well worth the trip (except when the winds are up).

High quality score cards and pencils near Hole #1.
Very well laid out and VERY challenging.
I didn't see any empty cans or water bottles anywhere.
A perfect mix of open holes, woods, obstacles.
A step above any of the other 15 courses I've played.

A long course which will tire you out.

I just started playing disc golf about 9 months ago so I was pretty nervous about playing this course. It was super challenging but I think I actually played quite well on it. I was exhausted by the end and wasn't sure at the time what I thought of it but over the last 2 days all i can think about is getting back out there and meeting that challenge again. I know that I played better than I ever have because it MADE me play better. I'll be back soon.
After playing this course multiple times now it's probably the best, most professional course around. It MAKES you play better. If you've never played here it's a must!

Great tournament course, offering beautiful waterfront holes/views, a variety of shots. TWO 18 HOLE COURSES, constant changing conditions with the wind of the water.

Most of both courses are great, but hole 9 on blue course needs more of a fairway from white/blue tees.

Without getting into too much detail, the park manager loves discgolf and it shows with the amount of effort and upkeep at this course(s). This is in my opinion in the top 2 courses in NYS, along with Warwick. Prepare to throw with plenty of wind or no wind at all, but enjoy the views!

- now has concrete tees! for both white and blue tees

-beautiful tee signs on every hole

-absolutely gorgeous views on #12-15 along the lake

-premium scorecards + pencils always available at the course kiosk near hole 1.

-long grass marks "fairways" and "rough", but the tall grass is short enough to find your disc, it merely presents another challenge when trying to throw a long 2nd shot

-great distances on the par 4s... while throwing far is a big advantage here, those with shorter, more precise shots can also score birdie 3s with well places drives and 2nd shots. only a couple holes where a "big arm" can have a chance for a birdie but others cant

-hole 9 needs tree removal, typically for tournaments everyone just plays from the red tees on that hole.

-some times of year if the course is too wet the rough can get long as it becomes very difficult to mow.

- not much nearby the park, it is a bit isolated. closest store is 5mi west, a small convenience store/deli/gas station

A true disc golf destination, 2 great courses in the same park along with camping. perfect for a weekend getaway!

I know the park manager personally after running an event here a few years ago. He loves disc golf so I only expect these courses to keep getting better and better.

There has been alot of improvement in both courses in the past 2 years. not only adding concrete teepads and tee signs, but cleaning up some holes that were a bit on the rough side. Every time I come here it looks better than the last

- great location with bathrooms near first hole and right next to another fine course.
- Kiosk includes scorecards and map.
- Great scenery around course including holes that drive right next to Lake Ontario
- Lots of chances for risk reward shots.
- Mostly open course with good mix of anhyzer and hyzer shots required
- Well marked set of three tees
- Great course for pro or close to pro players who like to air it out
- Not a very busy course, on most days you wont run into any other discers. You might have to watch out got campers riding their bikes or walking around the lake
- Good use of out of bounds to make course more interesting
-Pretty easy to follow from hole to hole, especially since maps are provide
- Nice upkeep of fairways and the course is pretty void of garbage
-New detailed signs at every hole
-cement tee pads for blue and white tees. Some of the blue cement tee pads are in bad shape

- Hole 9 is a nice idea but lacks a fairway from the blue tee.
- There is no midway point of the course which returns to the parking lot, which would be nice since it is so long. Some days you might just want to play 9 (I would suggest the back 9)
- No Tee pads or signs. Tee pads are not too much of an issue because it is mostly flat ground and the tees are well marked, however signs would be nice because some of the holes are really long.
- The course is mostly wide open so their is not much shade and can get very hot on a summer day (Bring Water)
- There are only two holes that are in the woods and in my opinion, they are not very good due to strange design -Hole 8 is 300 feet and then a 90ish degree turn to the right and then another 300 feet into the woods. -Hole 9 I already mentioned
- Lots of brush where discs can be easily lost

This course may be really decent for pros, but at times it lacks the value of fun due to its hardness and length for the amateur. Definitely do not bring beginners here because chances of losing discs are very high if you cannot control your disc to a high degree due to playing right along the lake at points. I haven't tried it recently but this course would probably be more enjoyable for the average player if played from the white tees. That is why there are different tees. The nice part is, if you do not want a monster course, shorewinds has a much more pleasant course for the amateur right across the parking lot. So unless you are looking for a beating or really want to test your drives try the white course instead. if you want to play this course and are not pro or lose to pro level, I definitely suggest using the white tees