+Excellent land to put a DG course on. It's really hard to have a good course without a solid foundation. This one has it all. Beautiful park up in the foothills above the city of Napa. It feels very secluded and remote.
+Lots and lots of elevation change. Many holes play up, down, or on the sides of big hills. Lots of greens are challenging due to the slopes. Lots of risk/reward.
+Nice tees. They are plenty big, nice grippy surface, level, and many have a broom.
+Signage is solid. It is very necessary with how many baskets are in play on each hole.
+Every hole has multiple baskets. This course can play quite easy up to championship level depending on which basket you are aiming for. I played more of the shorter ones since I was dragging my wife around the course on a vacation/work trip. The short holes are still quite fun and still have some challenge due to the elevation changes.
+Lots of cool flora and fauna to see. Coming from the midwest, most of the plants and animals were different from what I see. There were many wild turkeys, lots of little lizards, interesting insects, cool oak trees, olive trees, etc. If you are traveling with a non disc golfer, this park is pretty cool to just walk around on.
+There is another course near the park entrance that is more park style and a nice complement/warm up for this course.
+Nice amenities near the park entrance. Bathroom, camping, parking, other stuff to do for the family. It is about half a mile hike to the course and there's not much for amenities on the course itself.
+I think most people come to Napa to eat too much, drink too much, and spend too much money so this course shouldn't be too busy most of the time. I did see some posters for weekly leagues (Thursday evenings I think).
+Baskets were a bit on the older side but were in reasonably good shape. A few were elevated to add some challenge and fun to the course.
+You can buy discs at the entrance station. I didn't look too much at the selection but bought a gummy putter with a custom stamp on it. A better souvenir than you usually get from Napa IMO.

-Navigation is pretty average. Not bad but not great. There are some signs pointing to next tee but they are easy to miss. Lots of worn in paths that don't lead where you want to go.
-Having multiple pins is great for locals but was a little confusing as a traveling player. Not a big negative but needs to be listed.
-Not a lot of erosion control on some fairways and baskets.
-Most holes were a little more open then I would prefer. There was challenge from the elevation but not a lot from obstacles.
-Could really use some water on the course. I played early in the day with a 32oz bottle and still went through it all. This course would be brutal in the afternoon heat.
-A lot of the holes were fun and memorable but I think this course lacks a true signature hole or two. It's almost hard to say that about such a quality course but thinking back, there's not an individual hole that really wowed me.

+I think this course is slightly underrated due to more of the reviews being from a long time ago. Based on other reviews, this course has undergone slow but sure improvements over the years. I think a lot of the 3.5 reviews of the past would be 4 if they played again. Many of the old critiques aren't as relevant anymore.
+Well worth a stop if you are a DGer visiting Napa. It is much different than most everything else in the city.
+It is pay to play. $6 per car. Well worth the entry fee to me.
+Bring water and good footwear. Play early in the day. Use Udisc or download a map before you go so you can find your way around.

Only played this course twice now, but I think I've got enough sense of it to give it a fair review.

+ concrete teepads are great - leveled and grippy but not too grippy - cool artisitc line patterns/colors in many
+ Awesome views of the wine country throughout!
+ Elevation! I love and look for elevation and I love it here - up, down, across, gaps but never too 'extreme'
+ Trails and general upkeep around tees are great. The course routing doesn't go straight up and down slopes too much so even though it's a serious hike the paths are worn with a good tread for the most part.
+ Nice bright new signs on the old sign posts with next tee indicated. Lots of seemingly thoughtful alternate locations. Will definitely bring me back for more variety
+ Speaking of variety, the distances, shot-shapes and feel of the holes keeps you interested, challenged and staring often at your bag for disc selection.
+ Always love the gnarly oak branching. Makes some tee shots magical and creates new windows all the time to try to hit on upshots.
+ Discatchers. Always nice. I prefer a color-band that's more visible than old dga's

- Need more places to sit! Gimme some benches, not just stumps here and there
- Pretty dusty and weedy this time of year. When I played early spring it was much more green. Of course it's a super hot and dry summer. They painted 'no-smoking on all the sign posts, for good reason... They even have fire-extinguishers on some posts!
- Long walk to first tee from parking. Like Stafford. I appreciate the warm-up but it adds to an already big hike.
- Rollaways. The situation is not as bad as Taylor Mountain because where your discs land is usually more visible and the brush isn't as thick. Still annoying at times. Watch your shots closely! And use a spotter if playing with others on certain shots.

Would like to see more trail work. In areas they have done some great slope holding, steps and terracing of trails and near greens with logs. The $6 fee is well worth it if you plan to take your time and enjoy the whole course. Plan for 4 hours with the walk in and maybe a snack/water break. This is an excellent course even though its old now, and worth the trip out here. I'd give it a 4.2 maybe if I could, but I can't bump it to 4.5. Maybe with some more improvements and really enjoying it on a spring day... A bit oppressive in mid-summer. Go early and it's ok. Like the last reviewer I didn't see too much poison oak, but it's there for sure. Keep your eye out.

+Rolling, rugged beauty typical of NorCal courses. Having seen Delaveaga several times on YouTube coverage, this felt like Dela but less wooded. The old twisty oaks were incredible.

+Terrific hole designs, with a great variety of downhill bombs, uphill climbs, left-to-right and right-to-lefts, and of course plenty of death putts. Very challenging, but not unapproachably so. A few that are worth emptying the bag on from the tee if you're not backed up.

+Great tee pads and most baskets in good condition. Signs were reasonably informative for this out-of-towner playing it solo.

+The rough was very fair, I hardly saw any poison oak or the like. Nothing like the east coast jungles I'm used to.

-Flags on the bsskets would help immensely, especially given how many blind shots there were. I had to walk halfway to the basket several times to find it, and that's tough on a course with this much elevation change.

-Only one tee pad per hole, reducing playability options (one pin per hole but multiple basket locations).

On the property of an RV park, I think it's $8 to play if you're not staying there. About a 10 min hike to get to hole 1 from the parking, but that part isn't strenuous.

Very hilly course, will provide a great workout with lots of rollaway potential or epic shanks if you hyzer out/turn it over down a cliff. Spot for your fellow players - I'm very fortunate to have lost zero discs playing solo. Bring lots of water on hot days, this course will demand it.

Another 9-hole course is on the same property near the park entrance, much easier but decent.

Probably call ahead if it's rained hard the day before, I could see the place being almost unplayable after heavy rain.

This course has a great range of shot types, just about every kind imaginable:
* Up, down and flat elevation, low and high ceiling
* "Cross the valley" shots
* Blind left and right corner shots
* Tunnel shots and wide open drives
* Protected and open pins

Given the location in a relatively remote hilly back corner of a large park, the amount of improvement to the land is admirable. Thousands of pounds of water and cement has been carried in to make cement tee pads on most holes, there are signs on most if not every hole for pin locations and a marker for the active pin. Someone has even thought to supply brooms for several of the tee pads.

The land that the course is on is also quite charming example of the rugged beauty that California hiking trails has to offer. If you enjoy hiking, you will doubly enjoy this course.

If your mobility is impaired, or if you are the type of person to wait for an elevator rather than climb a single flight of stairs, this isn't the course for you. There is a lot of distance and elevation change to be climbed.

You will almost certainly have a roll away and will be looking for your disc in some scraggly brush at least two or three times over 18 holes. This isn't a deal breaker for me but your milage may vary. I would say it's a fair price to play such a fun and varied course.

Bring more water than you think you'll need. You're going on a substantial hike and playing disc golf along the way.

Bring discs for left and right turning shots, and a "get out of jail" disc for escaping from tricky positions. My Nova is perfect for this.

The $5 fee is for parking per vehicle. Carpool with friends to save money. The disc golf course is only a small part of a large park with an archery range, picnic and BBQ areas, as well as a tent camping and RV area.

Talk about challenging! If you want to test your mettle, this is the place!
First, I have to express my appreciation for whoever put down the concrete tee slabs. When you're there, check them out. I don't recall any 2 being the same and some are really works of art....especially considering they had to truck everything in to make it happen.
Playing on a Friday morning, it was basically empty. We think we heard chains on the back 9 somewhere but we didn't even see another person.
Lots of decisions to be made on how to deliver tee shots and approaches.
The scrub is low enough to be able to find your discs so long as you're smart about which to drive with (ie. don't throw a yellow disc in the summer and expect to find it quickly in the yellow grasses).
Don't forget to take a minute every now and again and take in the incredible views! One of the most scenic of the courses I've played when you're up on the ridges.

WATER...please! I played this course years and years ago and remember thinking it could really use some access to water. The walk there (1/4 mile...not 1/2 mile as others have said) and the steep mountain goat of a course makes trucking in a lot of water difficult. Having even just one place to fill your water bottle would be a HUGE improvement.
Rollaways....oh my goodness... You can drop the best drive right where you want and if it catches a lip or a rock...or even just leans in the wrong direction, you can watch it roll...and roll....and roll...
Be aware of which direction your disc is going to land...a RHBH throwing to a slope that goes down from right to left is just asking for a skip that takes off down the hill. We got smart and had someone spotting when we could....esp around the basket when an errant putt can take you from 2 feet away to 200 feet away in a matter of seconds.
The blind shots aren't too bad if you don't know the course...like us. Sending someone down the fairway to spot the basket wasn't terrible.
For whatever reason, we simply could not find the basket for #13 and had to skip it.

We were blessed by great weather and NO WIND. This place would have been 100x worse if there had been even any breeze at all.
I have to wonder if they have buzy days and how, when it's busy, you deal with rollaways and having people have to truck down the hill to find their discs. It would seem that you could potentially have lots of backups and delays with folks having to get all the way down and all the way back up the hills that are an absolute constant throughout the course.
This is a GREAT course....very unique and challenging. I am just happy it's not my home course.

+ Challenging
+ Will test many aspects of your game, even though many of the holes are short, you still need a good arm to get over high trees
+ Natural setting
+ Recent improvement noticeable
+ Most teepees are very nice, with non-slick concrete surfaces and are adequately long
+ Many holes have some interesting risk-reward decisions at the teepad
+ I found myself facing many long 30-40' putts, which is uncommon... bring your best putting mojo

- Still some improvement needed in teepads, signage, and erosion control, map is essential for first-timers
- Baskets need to be color coded so you know which one you are shooting to (for example, on the tee pad indicate shoot toward the _____ color basket)
- I think a few alternate lines need to be opened up on some holes
- some of the distances seem to be off

This is an excellent course - it is challenging, has creative lines and basket locations, and is in a beautiful location. The "smart" line isn't always obvious, and gutsy shots off the tee can payoff big or be a disaster. Like many mountain courses, you'll need to control your roll-aways, and that's just part of disc golf. This course has the potential to be equal to some of the very good mountain courses in Colorado, just needs a bit more improvement.

- Good variety of ascending defending holes
- Rubber/Concrete tees
- Quality baskets
- Beautiful scenery
-Challenging hole layouts
- Great tee signs
- Not a lot of underbrush to lose discs
- Brooms on some tees
- Crapper on site
- Mulitple pin placements

- No alternate tees
- Not all baskets were labeled
- Blind tees mixed with high rollaway probability
- No basket indicators to tell which position the pin is currently in
- Lacking directional signage between holes,
- A little overlapping of fairways
- 15B in had no fairway
- No max distance bomber holes

The only day I had a chance at playing this course the forecast called for rain, go figure. A little rain wasn't going to keep me from finally getting to play a course this awesome though. I honestly don't know why there were some guys complaining about having to trek up and down hills or even walk a half a mile each way just to get to the course, it wasn't a big deal at all. Then again, I came in December and not July.

I had pretty much the whole course to myself and didn't need much help figuring out the layout for the most part. The satellite map came in handy for figuring out how to get from hole to hole to make up for the lack of people to follow around. When faced with blind shots I just squirreled down the fairway to figure out where the pin location was. Normally I hate blind shots, especially on spotter-less hilly landscape, but the lack of underbrush made even the most heinous rollaways easy to find. I could see the whole process being much more stressful if it were hot, crowded and flush with summer vegetation growth. Adding an pin placement indicator on the sign would be nice, although I rarely see that on courses for some reason.

The course itself was a little side traversing heavy and could have used a long downhill bomber. Still, I fully enjoyed most holes with the exception of 15b. That hole didn't even have a fairway, which was disappointing. Pars came easily enough, birdies were a little tougher and required a mix of control/accuracy, risk, and luck. Speaking of luck, I happened to hit an ace on 10 pin A position!

As for the tee pads, they were a mix of rubber and concrete and all were in good condition. I don't know exactly when it started, but near the end of the course I started noticing variations of concrete tee pad surface designs. It was a real showcase of concrete craftsmanship on a few of them. My favorite pad was the one with little troughs across from side to side. My least favorite was the diamond grating in a "t" shape design. It was really slick, as in horrible, in spots because it retained a lot of mud within the nooks and crannies without a way to flow off the pad.

Skyline Wilderness Park easily ranks as my favorite California course played. It's rating 21 out of the state's top 25 courses is laughable. I thought it was easily the best California course that I've played by far. I have a bias toward wilderness themed type courses though. Lower skilled players likely would not share the enthusiasm I have for it, that's to be expected I guess. For those who think they'll be doing some "extra hiking", you might want to consider bringing a slimmer disc selection than normal. Packing light will help cut down the fatigue factor. I brought a full tourney set up including rain gear and extra food, it was a little overkill .

A beautiful and challenging course that requires ever shot in the book. This course will make you think about every shot because rollaways are very easy to come by. Multiple pin locations for ever hole can make this course go form an easy to soul crushing. I enjoyed the secludedness of the course and the locals were beyond welcoming. lots of benches and The new concrete tees for 7, 14 and 15 are the best i've seen anywhere.

Some of the tees were rubber mats that have seen a lot of use. The local club is working on replacing all tees with concrete ones in the near future.

I've played this course a 10 times over the last 3 years and everytime i come back it is improving. new positions for 4 and 12 and 15 are fun and challenging.

This course was a bit difficult for me to properly evaluate as I live in Wisconsin and have never played a course that was not located in the midwest. The course has it's own personality, and the people that I met on the course were all locals and EXTREMELY friendly! After reading other reviews, the course was not nearly as demanding physically on me as I initially was envisioning it. This is not to say that it isn't a bit of a workout, but unless you are in horrible shape or completely unaware you are about to play a frolf course in a mountainous range, there really should not be an issue. I went out Sunday late morning during 4th of July weekend and never had an issue with waiting or bumping into other people that were playing the same hole.

I found the layout very confusing and difficult to find the next hole numerous times. There was a stretch where I could see five baskets all at the same time in the same relative vicinity of each other and just was not sure which ones were for which holes (a number of the baskets are not numbered so it's a bit of a mystery). Normally I confirm this information, but honestly, just walking to all of these baskets and tee boxes to see what is what is a major physical investment that I just did not want to do. I was playing with another guy I met who was not very good, and it took over two hours to play 12 holes. Not having the ability to truly spot the basket and repeatedly making blind throws on the mountain I've never played at forced me into playing for par (or worse) on every hole. I really did not enjoy the difficulty in finding the correct basket on almost every hole....and not even finding it on others. I ended up finishing some holes on different baskets at times as I simply could not identify the baskets unless I was right next to them.

As I said, it's very hard for me to really give a fair review of this course as I very rarely leave Wisconsin, and this was the first time in my life I have gone on such a road trip and had a chance to bring my discs with. I have never seen a mountain, but it was not as bad as I thought it would be. It took me a handful of holes to get used to the predictable skip that my shot would end with. I had no issues with the "Napa Roller" except for one hole I got one, but I drilled a tree after maybe 50 feet of rolling and I found it rather amusing since I only had it happen once and ONLY once. I was somewhat sad trying to find any of the baskets from the tee box. Again, I normally just walk the course and find them, but it's very hard to be that committed to doing that on this course as the walking gets long. The elevation wasn't really anything that bothered me as I knew it was there to start with and accepted it. The thing I didn't like was it is so dry there that there is no ground vegetation at all that isn't dead. Whatever dirt/mud spots that existed are powdered dust at this point and that made everything rather slippery. I never fell, but I was walking very cautiously to make sure I didn't as I can imagine one could have an epic fall here. All in all, it was an experience I just could not pass by, but I wish the whole thing would of been easier to navigate.

This course is set in rolling hills with steep elevation changes and plenty of trees ranging from short to low-medium height. In many cases tee placements force low throws through openings in trees and in others you are free to throw over the trees. Almost all baskets are on slopes with the potential for rollaways that are longer than the tee-to-basket distance. As a consequence, it forces the use of spin direction to lower the possibility for roll, i.e., you will want a decent forehand game to help lessen the rollaway potential on many holes.

There is a .4 mile walk in that should keep the course from getting too crowded. Bathrooms are available on the course but you should bring your own water.

There were a number of apparently new tee boxes of inconsistent design, but all perfectly adequate. Baskets were all in good shape and there was a good system to identify pin locations.

There were no truly long bombs for a RHBH player on the day that I played (due to shorter pin positions). Most holes were definitely reachable but well guarded by trees lending to considerable technicality in addition to just elevation changes. This course definitely calls for a lot of shot shaping even though the course was only of medium difficulty in the way that it was set up when I played. However, by the look of the alternate basket locations, this course could be set up to high degree of difficulty. Overall, the feel of this course is that of a densely wooded course with the added bonus of rollaway potential on almost every hole. Indeed, I had to be wary of how I placed my bag for most putts and upshots due to its rollaway potential on steeply sloped ground.

With no truly wide open fairways, almost every throw requires some degree of control. The long, steep slopes can severely punish errant throws.

I found almost all holes to be very well thought out and fairly challenging. However, I also had a really good round.

As a bonus, wild turkeys were gobbling occasionally and even in response to the occasional impromptu outburst at a poorly thrown shot.

I don't have too much to complain about on this course. I did notice warnings for Mountain Lion and snakes at the head of the trail leading in to the course. We didn't see either, but I suppose risking being eaten is a bit of downer unless you like a little more adventure than usual.

There was no drinking water on the course which could be handy on hotter days.

If you are physically challenged or not in decent shape, this course is not for you. Finding a stable stance in some spots can be difficult for anyone.

There were some bare areas that could probably get slick after rains, however the course was in perfect condition on the day that I played.

There was plenty poison oak around the course. Learn to identify this and stay away from it.

I played this on a trip that included Stafford Lake, Taylor Mountain and Golden Gate. Of all those courses, I'd have to rate this the most fun. It is a definite must play if you are in or near Napa.

- well maintained with great signage, good quality teepads and newer baskets.
- Lovely setting in a wooded valley, isolated and never crowded
- Great mix of longer/shorter, dogleg left/right, uphill/downhill, & tunnel/open shots. The course design will test your skill-set and range
- I can't think of an especially weak hole design here (possibly 10). Overall, a strong course layout

- Steep hills EVERYWHERE. To an extent, this is a pro but the constant risk of a shot rolling 50ft+ from where it lands can detract from the fun-factor. And it's not just the discs that roll downhill, your bag, your water bottle, your disc retrieval tool and even your own body will be constantly fighting gravity. My rounds here end with some sore legs.
- There's a 10 minute walk between parking and teepad #1. The course is pretty far from restrooms and water sources. Definitely pack in water.
- This seems to be one of the warmer spots in the Bay Area. A combo of steep hills and heat can wear you down. I'd avoid this course on a hot day.

I occasionally play this course when I've grown tired of the Bay Area mainstays. It's designed well but the constant threat of roll-aways and hiking up hills detract from the fun factor. The course design is fair, balanced, challenging and punishing. I'd recommend playing here but it wouldn't be at the very top of my must-play list.

In a word: "brutal." I happened to play the course on a 90 degree day last week and did not bring an adequate amount of water (plus was sunburned already from the previous day). But the length of the course combined with the elevation changes made this a real struggle. As a player you're basically going to be walking up and down big hills all day. I liked the course though because it was so challenging (probably the toughest I've ever played); I mostly wish I had chosen a different day to play it. I have a lot of respect for this course as a worthy adversary.

This course has a really neat layout, with a nice combination of holes and differing pin locations. Good signage with a round disc pointing out the basket location, as A, B or C. Despite this, rarely can you see the basket you are throwing to. You will get to use all sorts of throws to get around the tree obstacles, though it is certainly within reason to score a few birdies with good shots.

The tee boxes are not very solid, basically carpeted dirt, and the limited space can make it difficult to figure out which basket you should be throwing at. Also, the numbers on the basket are not very visible, and rarely pointed at the tee box, so you have to walk all the way to them, and around them before you figure out what number the basket has. Of course, the dreaded Napa roll can and will strike when you screw up, but that is part of the game.

Skyline Park is a great multi-use park with hiking, biking, horseback riding and an archery course. You can camp out there, and all the activities are well worth the minimal $5 per car entry fee. There is a nice walk from the parking lot to the first tee, maybe a half mile, and I would highly recommend hiking shoes or boots. I played it in my Chacos, and the steep slopes and high grass when you go off course make for difficult walking. There is also a good bit of poison oak and brambles, so long pants are not out of the question.

This is the first course i ever played, and is pretty difficult compared to the others. I go out there every time I am in Napa, and really love it. It's basically my California home course, and easily as challenging, though different, from my La home course, Buhlow.

Skyline Wilderness offers excellent variety and is absolutely worth the $5 entry fee. When you enter the park and start the 10-15 minute hike to Hole #1, it is very easy to see why this is a top-notch course.

Although this is a muti-use facility, the disc golf course is well separated from other activities.

More than a few times during the round, I found myself soaking in the panoramic views and taking pictures instead of concentrating on my next throw.

The tee signs on every hole certainly helped with navigation.

The teepads were a mix of concrete and rubber. I understand the locals are working to install concrete pads on all of the holes. There were also brooms and benches on most of the teepads, which is very nice.

The baskets are not new, but they are in good shape.

Elevation is utilized very well on most of the holes here. I heard a few groups mention the "Napa Rollers" that easily turn a birdie into a bogey or double bogey. Thankfully, I did not experience my own Napa Roller until #14.

While there were plenty of warning signs for the local wildlife, I did not see any boars, snakes or anything else.

There are plenty of opportunities to throw hyzers, anhyzers, thumbers and pretty much any other shot you are able to throw.

Similar to other California courses I have played (Coyote Point, Ryan Ranch, Stafford Lake, etc) this is a physically demanding course and it is not for the faint of heart. Bring plenty of water, snacks, etc. You will not want to run back to the parking lot in the middle of a round here.

As other reviews have mentioned, there is no huge downhill bomber shot. While the terrain certainly allows for it, I was somewhat disappointed in the lack of at least 1 opportunity to truly grip it and rip it here.

I'm reaching now, but the lack of concrete teepads is always a con for me. I also noticed that some of the rubber teepads were too short. I typically use a 3 or 4 step approach and did not have enough room on several holes.

The $5 entry fee will come along with a rough course map. I found that the map was not completely accurate. However, this only caused a problem for me between #13 and #14.

Napa is not for beginners, especially those that do not know how to handle constant elevation changes. Having said that, any new players should check out some other courses and then find a guide and get to Napa for a very challenging and fun disc golf experience.

Fantastic scenery. My 20-something daughter stopped playing and just took photos. The steep hills are a great walking workout. Fun to do some of those swooping downward throws. Good rubber pads. Nice baskets. Hills plus trees and wind made this a very challenging course.

Costs $5 to get into the park, but it's worth it.

If you wear shorts, your legs will get scratched up from the scrubby thorny bushes.

Read all the pros on the other reviews, they are all true. If you love a good disc course this is it. You follow a ridge through little draws and along the face of the ridge. Lots of great things about this course including a wilderness feel, no road noise. There are a variety of throws available but if you love the tomahawk throw you will especially love it here.

Long walk but its just part of the courses draw.

One of the best courses I have been to. Great views of napa valley. Play it if you can!

Skyline Wilderness is another California course cut from the same rugged wilderness terrain as Stafford Lake, Lake Casitas and Ryan's Ranch. That is rugged rolling hills, mature oaks, deep cut ravines, srub brush, some panoramic views and wildlife abounds. As with the other courses it makes for the almost perfect topography on which to build a course. This is a private campground. We played on a Friday in August and the cost was $6. So the course was at it's driest and brownest but the grass was not so long. There is a fairly long hike in past the archery range (just over a 1/4 mile) past the sign warning you about wild boar, rattle snakes and mountain lions. This is not a course for families or newbies. Or the un-armed. Maybe bring your 45 cal. discs. We did see deer and also caught glimpses of wild turkeys on a couple of occasions. It's for the serious player up to the tournament level player. The pads were extra long rubber with brooms at each hole. They were benches usually placed in the shade. Great informative signs. Great variety of long-short-right-left holes. 3-5 basket placements per holes would make playing the course a different expierience each time out.

I felt # 16 played like a filler hole. All others had a fair route while this one just felt it had been stuck in there. Didin't care for it! The long walk in at the beginning and end. Bring water and maybe snacks. Doesn't have the natural beauty of Lake Casitas or Stafford Lake. The dreaded Napa roll got me on one hole and definitely adds to the challenge. Doesn't have a scenic "Top Of The World Shot."

A not to be missed course in the Bay Area. It's fun to compare it to the other so very similar courses. This is pretty much a carbon copy of the Ryan's Ranch course in Monterey. Play it and compare the two. Play it and compare your score. Play it and compare your sunburn and blisters, and aching bones.

NorCal wilderness. Virtually perfect land for a course. It has everything you need to build a course around with the exception of a water hazard. Mutliple basket positions. Good signs at the tee pads with a washer and screw that show current position. Navigation was simple. Trails are pretty obvious. Good use of trees and elevation to create challenging holes. Basket positions were good. Nothing seemed squeezed in without a plan. I was also never bored, or felt like there was repetitive shots.

It's tough, but there are ace and birdie opportunities. I hit 3 birdies my first time out. Thank you thumber!. It helps to be able to go over the trees on some holes.

Course is off a trail well away from the rest of the park. You are in the wilderness. Bring water.

Rubber tee pads. They are in good shape, but not concrete. I didn't really have any problems with them so I 'd rate this as a pretty insignificant con. They could be better, but they don't have a negative effect.

Long walk to course from the parking area. Including walking along the archery range. Yes, that's what all those fake elk are about. I hope the archers are good. Horse poop on the trail. You are sharing the trail so watch where you walk.

Some blind shots that should really have a spotter. Tall grass also makes locating discs tough. The name says wilderness for a reason. A few of the holes are very heavily wooded, and have significant 'rough'. Watch where you throw.

A nice, solid course. The cons are pretty small. Course plays fair, and makes you use multiple shots. I would highly recommned this course as a destination spot. It's only about 30 minutes form Stafford Lake and close to all the joys of wine country.

Before you get to the course there is a practice tee nice for worming up. The hike to the course is not bad.Beautiful setting in the Napa Valley. Multiple pin placements makes it a great challenging course.

"NAPA ROLL" and poisen oak

• Beautiful views
• Wide variety of holes
• Benches
• Nice park overall
• Good tee boxes
• Poles for disc-in-tree retrieval, brooms, fire extinguishers, trash cans

• Mean mean MEAN rollaways on a few holes
• Impossible pin location on one hole (around 13-15, temporary maybe?)

Tips:
• Bring water
• Bring more water
• Bring snacks
• Use the restroom before you hike to #1

Random Thoughts:
I really struggled with this review. My girlfriend and I are beginners and we love a good hike. Having said that, we started this course and had a great time through the first 3rd, although this definitely isn't a beginner course as most holes are well outside our range, but once we got to what I will call 'The Devil's Slope', things changed. The bottom line on the holes in this area is that you can throw a good or even great throw and if the disc gets on its edge, kiss it goodbye, because it's going to roll down the slope a loooooooooong way, and even throwing it back from the bottom of the slope may just have it roll right back to you or even past you. In truth, this was quite funny the first few times it happened, but right around the 4th or 5th sweaty trek, it lost some of the fun. I found myself wondering if this was a fair fight. Who knows, maybe it's better at certain times of the season. But here's the thing, it finished up well on the last few holes, I look back on it and laugh...and I can't wait to go back. The Pros simply outweigh the Cons.

Bottom line: Bring water. Get ready for a hike. Set aside three hours. You'll laugh, cry, and swear, but it'll be fun.

Update 11/2009: We played this again a couple weeks ago during a tournament. WOW. I didn't realize how much more difficult this course could get when they moved the baskets to the pro spots. I have a lot of improvement to make... They were also installing some more improvements such as new signs, which are MUCH better. I'm also 90% sure that the basket I mention above is either a duplicate or remnant or something. It's around the basket area for 13 and as there was another basket in the area, I'm reasonably confident you don't need to throw at the impossible one. Anyway, keep up the great work guys!

Update 03/2010: Got to play this again with the latest improvements. All new signs are up and most of the holes are back in human-range (more on this in a minute). I also think I figured out the mystery basket, which is now non-duplicated. I believe this basket is used twice. I believe it's the basket for 13 and for 15A which I didn't see before until they put basket #14 on the far side of the moon (Love this shot btw but wow is it far). 15A is a tough tough shot. I see why it's an alternate. The conditions are also quite a bit different this time of year with the grass high. The rollaways are still lurking but not quite as much. Now, back to the basket positions....attention Mr. and/or Miss Course Designer(s), I have a question: Seriously, EVERY shot is a par 3? Really?! Not even a hint of an amateur par 4 on some of those over 400 ft. uphill shots? I mean, no love at all?! Seriously though, even if it is so that the 3 reigns supreme, I continue to love this course and appreciate your efforts. I just think it might be the hardest course to shoot par on in the Bay Area, with the longer basket positions anyway. Not that this is a bad thing. It just means I have lots of practice ahead of me.