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South Vineland Park

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dino2disc
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 24.7 years 75 played 39 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Challenging tree tunnels and beautiful views 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 20, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Nice large parking area and easy to find. Your round starts and ends right next to the parking lot.

- Beautiful city park with a couple holes along shores of the main lake and a number of other, smaller, hidden ponds throughout the woods that are either in play (as water carries) or very close to in play.

- Holes #4 and #16 through 18 are open/light woods, giving you a much needed breather from the dense tight lines of virtually every other hole. They add nice variety, so not every hole feels the same.

- Great use of the hills and ponds, with uphills, downhills, and valley-crosses that feel much more substantial in elevation change than anywhere else in South Jersey. That, and water carries are always fun.

- Nicely visible next tee arrows posted on baskets and trees throughout much of the course. They're actively working on this in response to previous reviews, and it absolutely helps. Only missing one I saw was for how to get to the yellow tee on #9 (it's down the hill to your right when you walk over from #8).

- Other reviewers have mentioned a lot of trash, but it looked pretty clean to me. Must have been cleaned up recently.

Cons:

- Seems like the course layout is frequently changing. The current course map is way out of date: over half the holes are either misnumbered or sketched out in a way that doesn't reflect the current layout. It really needs a new course map both uploaded here and posted in hard copy on the big display board by the parking lot.

- High disk risk. Even if you play the shorter White tees, there are some SERIOUS water carries here that no beginner would ever feel comfortable trying. #14 isn't as bad as it looks from either the White or Yellow tees because it's downhill, but #10 is really intimidating: from the Yellow tee you'll need about 350ft to make it to truly dry land on the other side. I value my disks too much for that, didn't even try it. You've also got water potentially in play from an errant shot or bad tree kick on #1, 9, 12, and 17.

- Only a couple paver tees, mostly short carpets or dirt tees. Could really use pavers to provide better traction.

- Many tee signs are missing or outdated, and they're only at the Yellow tees. Kind of expected given that they're actively revising the hole layouts, but that still makes it hard to tell if you're at the right tee or throwing the right direction on some holes.

- Many baskets are rusty. Not bent or leaned over, but still in need of care.

- I'm sorry, but #3 is a joke. A four foot wide tunnel with impenetrable thickets of spindly trees on both sides that you can't avoid entering, and with some spindly trees even in the middle of your tunnel. And from the Yellow tee all you see is a wall of spindly trees with no entrance into the tunnel. Come on, seriously? By some miracle I eeked out just a single bogey, but I still think that hole needs some serious rethinking.

- The fence line across #18: Yeah, if you can bomb it long enough it probably doesn't come into play. But it does seem pretty gimmicky, and would definitely tick you off if you landed a beautiful bomb shot right up against it. Why couldn't the basket just be moved 75 feet closer and onto the close side of the fence? It's in an open field either way...

Other Thoughts:

- The locals are awesome. I had the privilege to meet one of the course designers on my visit, and he was very friendly and really excited to hear my feedback. He even helped guide my partner and I to a couple of the next tees that were harder to find. Love that they care so much.

- They just added a brand new elevated wooden extra-long Green tee to hole #1, which (if you choose to play it) gives you a substantial (~250ft) water carry across the edge of the lake to start your round. Beautiful view, and it follows the shore closely enough that you could bail out left if needed.

- Really challenging from the long Yellow tees! You're bound to nail a lot of trees, and par isn't even close to plausible for an intermediate player. Be prepared for a lot of bogeys, nailing a lot of trees, and being humbled by tight tunnel after tight tunnel if you play the longs like I did. I look forward to coming back to try the short Whites next time.

- The old #6 is now relabeled as hole #A, and the White tee and basket for old #4 are still in the ground, so you can actually play 20 holes here if you wanted to.
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Ryal
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Experience: 6.9 years 222 played 184 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Fine Vineland 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 26, 2020 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

+ The course plays through some open fields but mostly favors dense tunnels and tree-dodging in this woodsy municipal park in the heart of Vineland.
+ Bright yellow arrows at the bottom of many of the baskets point the way through the course.
+ While the course is mostly flat, quite a few dips, big bumps, and tiny valleys lend this course a rugged texture.
+ The hole signs are helpful, accurate and well illustrated with just the facts we need like par and distance, but...

Cons:

- ...Only the long tee pads have the information signs, so players of the short layout will have to find the long tee first if they want to know the layout ahead.
- Most of the baskets are old with weak and rusty chains.
- There is trash visible on most holes. Please don't litter, folks.
- The tee pads vary among carpet, rubber, none at all and a few concrete.
- The course needs more guiding signage in the denser wooded holes within the back nine. Getting lost is possible between holes 14 - 16.
- No practice pin, info board or lost disc box.

Other Thoughts:

My favorite hole to play here was hole 3 because of its narrow twisty tunnel. It was like a disc golf pretzel. My favorite hole to look at was 9 because it ends with the player standing atop a tall mound of land surrounded by pines and overlooking a motionless lake below. My least favorite hole is 8 because it plays right alongside the park road.

South Vineland was tough for me to pin down, even by my own subjective scale. On the one hand, I can't ignore my perception of how plain most of the first half and the final three holes seemed to me. Maybe it was the grab-bag tee pads. It could have been that the tunnel shots in the beginning were too brief for me to savor. It could have been its bland topography at the beginning and towards the end. Or maybe it was a combination of all of that.

On the other hand, I love playing in hilly pine woods, and South Vineland has a nice section of that among holes 9 through 15. Those were easily the strongest part of the course. Maybe it was the peaceful and pretty lakes the player is treated to. Maybe it was the thrilling throws over those bodies of water. Maybe it was the jagged landscape of those hilly pines. Perhaps it was the devious lines through the trees that make players feel a sense of accomplishment. Or maybe it was a combination of all of that.

The good definitely outweighs the bad here. Though it is clearly geared more towards accuracy and placement, all golfers can get enjoyment from what is here. Still, there is much to repair, replace and rethink. Consistent tee pads would be a good start. Replacing the old rusted baskets would also be a good change. More prevalent and permanent signage would be a good thing, too. Also, what was the deal with that mysterious extra tee pad and basket near the entrance of the park? Is this place actually a 19-hole course? I skipped that one because it confused me.

In closing, I see potential for an even better course here. The infrastructure can definitely be improved, and maybe the layout can be tweaked slightly. Regardless, I gently recommend South Vineland because it is a little piece of ragged and jagged disc golf in an otherwise flat and boring world. Give it a try if you're nearby, but maybe don't rush to get there.
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DumfriesLizzie
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 5.6 years 111 played 102 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Varied, good course 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 30, 2021 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Jekyll/Hyde course. Holes 1-7 (except the no. 4 fairway) are tight and mostly short. Hole 8 along the edge of the parking lot is a good transition. Holes 9-18 are spaced further apart, over rolling terrain, mostly in dense woods. Varied.

The back 9 is hard on a beginner, but has some reasonable holes, including 9, 11, 13, 15-17.

Hole 7 opens to a wide, shaded green at the end of the fairway. Hole 12 requires a drive into a ravine and then back up to a ledge. Or from ledge to ledge if you are a strong thrower. Hole 15 is very pretty with its wooded fairway and open, sandy green. Holes 16-18 are in a sparsely-wooded meadow. Nice reprieve from the woods you've been in since the beginning. No. 18 is super long from the yellow and green tees, over open field, needs a turnover shot to get over the final fence. I found its tees for yellow and green (latter in a tight alcove of trees near the lake shoreline), but I never encountered the 300-foot red tee.

Many ponds and the main lake make for lovely scenery. I took alot of photos in 2019 and 2021.

New signs make a world of difference. Though placed mostly only at the yellow/long tees and not repeated at white or red (too much money, I imagine), the information on the signs is priceless for finding all 3 tees per hole. (NB: a large number of the white/red tees are combined.)

The basket of no. 10 has been placed at the end of a tunnel, and the white/red pad is out of the boggy mess but still on the safe side of the pond. This rearrangement now makes no. 10 playable for the short thrower.

Hole A (parallel to and between holes 5 and 6) is now well marked, so if you want to play 18 traditional holes and skip it, it's clear you are not missing a hole you want to play.

Perhaps it has been there all along, but there is a practice basket near the park road and on your way from no. 7 to no. 8. It's clearly marked too now, so no confusion if it is a second basket for no. 7.

Cons:

Jekyll/Hyde course. Rear 9 is distinctly tougher than the front 9. In addition to alot of walking and climbing, there is serious water to get over at 10 and 14 (also no. 9 for the yellow tee people). I can't yet handle big water, so I just don't play these holes. I write down par+4 and move on. There is now a drop zone for 14 that you can start from, shooting 3.

Course map online is incorrect, out-of-date. Use UDisc instead if you have it.

Some of the white/red tees are literally white rugs/mats and get covered by the white sand. Rather tough to find. No hole signs there. I had this problem at nos. 9 and 15.

I never found white/red tees for nos. 13 and 18.

Tee pads vary widely: some concrete, some mats, some natural, one paver at yellow 18.

Next-tee sign to no. 11's white/red tee is incorrect.

Two benches at 7 and 11; I believe the current one at 11 is a replacement and newer (thanks, local club/parks dept.). Some logs to sit on at a few other holes. However, mostly there is nowhere to sit and rest. Some of us need such.

Other Thoughts:

I first played this course Feb. 2019 when I was in the area. I was in the area more recently Aug. 2021 and have updated my previous comments here to reflect the new reality.

Go to hole 1 not via the trail into the woods but along the lake shoreline. The yellow tee is nearest the fishing pier. Keep walking and find the white tee inside a fence. There is also a red tee further up the hill. The basket for no. 1 used to be into the woods a bit. It is now at the end of a narrow fairway along the shoreline.

New signs make a real difference in your navigation and (thus) your degree of enjoyment. If you are not wasting time, trying to find holes, you can (um) play the holes!! (smile).

Vineland is a smaller town in the grand scheme of things: 61000 people or so. This is a quality course for a small place like this. With Route 55 connecting Vineland and suburban Philadelphia via a real interstate roadway, I imagine plenty Philly dolfers frequent this course.

Also makes a good day trip (perhaps add Cape May Zoo and/or Stafford Woods or New Brooklyn courses) for Delaware disc golfers wanting something different.

BTW the park is actually at 429 W Elmer Road and has been renamed after former city mayor Anthony Campanella Sr. So look for his name versus South Vineland Park,
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specsman
Experience: 7 played 4 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Needs help; but has promise 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 9, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

Good location, ample parking, restrooms, short technical holes, open holes, water hazards, variety.

The first 9 holes are worth playing alone. Mostly short technical holes with really tight fairways; but with a few open fairways.

Cons:

Trash, flooded holes, poor signage, moved baskets, mosquitos.

This course could really use a trash cleanup day. Not so much holes 1-10; but there were a number of spots on 11-18 where trash was abundant.

The layout of the back 9 is really confusing. It appears that a number of baskets have been moved due to flooding. Its not obvious where the baskets are and you can't see them from most tees and there are no signs. You'll get a lot more out of these holes if you go with a local that knows the course.

I tried to play this course a couple months back when it had been raining a fair amount. We got chased off by massive swarms of mosquitos on holes 6-9. If its been raining avoid those holes.

Other Thoughts:

This is a good location with a lot of promise and fun holes. It mainly needs signs and some cleanup.
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PhillyPhan69
Experience: 5 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

We had fun 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 14, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

A course in Cumberland County! I like wooded courses. Some very tight and challenging holes for a semi newbie. You will need patience to play this course or you will not have much fun. Very tight heavily wooded fairways, a few gullys to throw across, a good variety of distance with a few open holes thrown in for good measure.

Cons:

Not visitor friendly (It might take a few minutes to find the start point...just prior to the parking area on the left. and be prepared to circle back if you miss a hole because half of the holes do not give directions to the next. Short tees have no pads.

Other Thoughts:

Not sure about trash? I have seen a review where it says it was, but it was very clean today with an occasional bottle or piece of litter but very nice. Beautiful park even outside of the disc golf area. Bring the family and spend the day. Bring bug spray, they were not a major nuisance but they were a minor headache. It was very, very, windy today and some holes are difficult for someone like myself with a weaker arm...but overall I hope to hit this course monthly when we return to visit family.

*** On a second trip July 16-17, I found myself slightly disappointed and have lowered my rating from a 3.5 to a 3. This course is still fun as has a lot of promise with a little work. I really like the work out the terrain allows....however I did encounter a lot more trash this time particularly hole 11 which looks like some druken fisherman or local tees made the pad their local party place, shirts, cans, bottle etc. Hole 12 has an arrow that directs to the next tee that does not even point in the right direction (thanks). Holes 17-18 are about waist high in weeds so even if you know where your disc went it is not fun trecking to go get it, not to mention those 10,000 little black things embedded in my shoelaces and socks...not sure what they were? Once again I have played this course 3 times and never once seen another disc golfer out here, although the park seems to get plenty of visitors daily. So maybe there are no local here anyway? Another bummer was on back to back days the beautiful park with restrooms, had their restrooms locked....a shame I had to eave mid game and run down to Sherman Ave and hit a Wawa....I wouldn't have returned at all, but was having a solid game and couldn't bring myself to quit...Oh well.....a few improvements needed but still a fun course to play
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owvanguard
Experience: 15.9 years 170 played 34 reviews
3.00 star(s)

South Jersey Open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 17, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

This is a technical tight course that utilizes many different elements forcing accuracy on some holes and distance on others.

Cons:

Dirt pad tee boxes.
The over water shots can lead to lost discs
One short hole has an extremely tight tube to shoot through.

Other Thoughts:

Some shorts over large water and many risk reward options.
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slvravn
Experience: 11.7 years 28 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Nov 3, 2012 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

- Another course in South Jersey
- Some really tricky through the woods holes (#3 from the pro tee!)
- I really liked the trees near the basket on hole 9. Makes for an interesting putt if you overshoot the basket.
- Decent baskets
- 18 holes
- Tournament course for SJDG
- Good parking and restrooms are available

Cons:

- Course needs to be maintained a bit more. Tee boxes were good on some holes and pretty bad on others. It looks like they are starting to redo some of the pro tees, but not all of them have been done or finished.
- Signage is ok at best for getting to the next hole and for hole info.
- There is a great deal of water here, but it never really gets put to good use.
- A good deal of trash throughout the course needs to be picked up.
- A wider variety of shots would be nice. A few of the holes feel repetitive.
- Some more benches would be nice

Other Thoughts:

All in all it is a nice course, but I would only play it again if I was in the area and not make a special trip for it.
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BigJ198
Experience: 22.9 years 94 played 14 reviews
3.00 star(s)

C'mon! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 23, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Trees, Elevation and a Lake! All of the things to make a great course! Nice location (didn't need to pack heat) Course gets better each time I visit from out-of-state. Hole 17: Beautiful!

Cons:

Use the freakin' lake! For a finishing hole, 18 is a boring bomb. Anyone can put a basket and tee at opposite ends of a field. And what happened to the uphill shot on the backside followed by the downhill throw over a part of the lake? These were two great holes that needed only baskets to make them perfect.

Other Thoughts:

There is so much area that need to be utilized better.

Scrap # 1 and #18.
This opens up the two on the backside that got taken out during the conversion to baskets. # 17 can now be #18; a great finishing hole. Perhaps, the signature hole for this course.
Unless with further design we get a super bomb across the section of lake visible beyond the current 17 basket. (from right to left with a basket near the current long tee for 18) There's room for 27 holes here....is that the plan?
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simpletwist
Experience: 16.8 years 30 played 10 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Unfinished Business 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 18, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

Interesting and challenging front 9. Not quite pitch and putt. We played only from the whites. Not crowded for mid day on a Saturday. Most tees were fairly easy to find and each basket had an arrow pointing you in the direction of the next tee box.

Cons:

Some tee boxes are difficult to find, but the map helps. A lot of idiots in the parking lot of this multi use park. Driving at reckless speeds in the parking lot with dozens of small children wandering about.

Other Thoughts:

I had the whole family, I mean the whole family with me; my three kids, their spouses and my grand kids. Also my wife and my step son. 14 of us altogether! Only 4 of us were actually throwing discs. Unfortunately we had to leave before we finished our round, hence the unfinished business. Some benches and trash cans at or near the tee boxes would not only make them a little easier to find but are always a welcome sight to take a quick break. Looking forward to my next trip to NJ to finish a complete round at this fun little course.
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