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Alcoa, TN

The Claytons

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wellsbranch250
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 10.3 years 658 played 637 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Knoxville Destination Course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 26, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

(4.122 Rating) A beautiful course with a split mix of wooded and park style holes.
- THE FIRST 8 HOLES - The star of The Claytons to me, is the beginning. When traveling to the first tee, not only will one observe how well tended the encompassing elements are, the first line presented looks wonderful too. A heavily wooded line with a bend to the right and it has rolling elevation. Amen. Then hole (2), which was personally my favorite hole on the course. (2) is an extreme downhill play that needs to be threaded through and down a heavily wooded fairway. Next, holes (3) through (8), which as a whole, I'd describe as a wooded paradise comprised of tantalizing shaped lines with manicured fairways and beaten back off-fairway undergrowth. The first eight holes reminded me of rock star wooded courses such as Inverness, Rollin Ridge, Lake Claiborne, Wilderness, Langley and Headrick. All courses that I have scored at the 4.5 level or better. I really wished by the rounds end that more of the course was in this exquisite portion of the property.
- CHALLENGE OPTIONS - There are two distinct layouts to follow here. The short basket layout and the long basket layout. The short basket layout is a super fun rec course bursting with variety. I don't think any player with a rating from 825 to 925 is going to be disappointed. Birdies can be had and bogeys are possible. It'll require a mixture of throws and it'll be hard to get into major trouble. The long tee layout on the other hand, is going to offer some real nice intriguing and engaging gameplay for Intermediate and lower Advanced level players. For the record, I opted for the short layout.
- HOLE VARIETY - It's fantastic. The course is near a split mix of open holes and heavily wooded ones. There are several par 4s on this course that require hitting a landing zone before going after the basket. (15) long tee was one of the better examples of this with the long tunnel out the shoot and having to play towards a gap in a line of trees. Distances range from plus 700 feet to sub 200. Elevation change is used dramatically several times and I liked how the flight path significantly mattered when attacking baskets near a significant slope. There is only one water play on (18) and the big guns will love the roulette feel of the hole. The course did have a par 5 listed on the signage but I did not give the course credit for one as it was far too short for highly skilled players to whom which it was targeted too.
- BASICS AMENITIES AND EXTRAS - The Claytons course is well funded. This was the first time I've ever seen more than a hundred concrete steps specific to a course layout. The grandeur of the amenity bonuses are evident when first arriving. There's a big practice area with 3 practice turf tees and 3 practice baskets. This practice area apparently doubles as an informal extra hole. High quality community board with a large beautiful course map indicating all the updated distances. Each tee is decked out with a large well built turf pad, large bench and sheik tee signage. The baskets are Veterans and there are two planted on each hole. Most baskets also have the metal next tee marker gripping the bottom wires of the baskets. Overall I'd say this aspect is 90 percentile or better, when compared to all the courses I've visited.
- NAVIGATION - This aspect was generally really good. As noted above, beautiful course map affixed to the community board. The tee signs were great too. They were in a style that wraps around the post which something I'd only seen a couple other times. All the info that one would need was on them. My only gripe on this aspect was that a couple transitions were well longer than normal and could be tricky to those who didn't take a picture of the course map or didn't have a navigational app.
- NATURAL BEAUTY - First off, the course was outstandingly maintained when I played it. Just stating that the course is beautiful would be an understatement and an injustice. So, I will add these additional fancy adjectives to describe it; ravishing, dazzling, angelic and sublime. I took several photos and sent them to friends to instill jealousy. Overall, I scored this aspect a 4.5 and on the fence of my personal top 20 most beautiful courses. Had the entire layout stayed in the woods, it may have broken into my top ten for beauty.

Cons:

One minor issue and then some preferential cons.
- FINISH FROM PARKING - I calculated that I walked over a quarter mile from 18s basket back to my car. What a buzz kill. I'm not sure what they can due to remedy this. It kind of is what it is.
- HOLE 18 FOR THE MORTELS - When I got to (18), a local whom I had conversed with earlier egged me into attempting the pro tee shot despite me having played the short layout for the first 17 holes. It's a glorious looking herculean play from the Pro tee. 40 feet of elevation change over a creek valley with a twenty foot wide tree-less swath down the center. So I decided to play an extra shot and grabbed a sacrificial boss and attempted to chuck it 400 plus feet to see if the disc was destined for glory or death. Unfortunately, with some of the extra juice I tried to inject into my throw, I slipped a bit on the slick turf pad and my disc came out far too low in trajectory. I watched helplessly as it was easily swatted down by the 60 foot tall flanking trees, and it fell straight down into the awaiting chuckling creek below. This is really a poor tee choice for those with sub 400 foot arms. Sadly, the short tee option is a boring let down of an alternative. Not only is the line to the basket a treeless sub 200 foot play, there are picnic tables in play. In addition, those that do play the long Pro tee, players could be oblivious to those sitting at the picnic tables and the adjacent walking path. I like the premise of what they wanted to deliver on the final hole, but I think it's the weakest link on the course. Not a great way to finish a fine layout.
- TIME PLAY - I was here for 90 minutes as a solo throwing the short layout. It probably would have been close to two hours had I opted for the long layout. Groups of 4 could be here 3 hours. Plan accordingly.
- BEGINNER FRIENDLY - Not a good course for beginners. Novice level players likely won't be overwhelmed, but they'll be well over par. I don't take off rating points for this.
- TERRAIN - I loved it, but I know others that won't. I don't think the course is cart friendly. I would not be surprised if some locals bag it for the first 8 holes and then switch to a cart before heading to hole (9).

Other Thoughts:

The Claytons reminds me of The Beast in Waco, but a hair better example. The Beast does offer a better overall challenge, but The Claytons delivers better looking lines, better maintenance and far more amenities. I think the hole variety between the two is roughly equivalent, but The Claytons has one or two fewer average looking holes over The Beast IMO. Anyways, excellent course overall. Probably one of the best in the Knoxville metro area if not the best. I have yet to play local notable courses Tommy Schumpert and Victor Ashe, but I have played Morningside. I couldn't name one aspect that I liked on Morningside over The Claytons, other than the baskets. I think if they added back tees here to the rest of the holes, I'd consider dropping a low 4.5 on it. However, as is, I have it falling short of that distinction. If you find yourself in the Knoxville area and you are an 850 to 950 rated player, you need to find a way to get over here and play it.
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autocrosscrx
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 6.9 years 27 played 27 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Claytons 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 5, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

- The property is beautiful.
- Practice area with 3 baskets and what can be treated as a 19th hole.
- Two baskets for each hole. A handful of holes have multiple tee pads. On most holes, the different pins make for very different lines.
- First 8 courses are heavily wooded. Holes 9-18 are open. So you get that variety.
- Course is essentially split into a pair of 9 hole courses, so you can play just 9 if you have time constraints or play 2 loops of the front or back 9 if you want really love the woods or if you just want to bomb.
- One of the more challenging courses in the area. With the different layouts, it can serve a wide variety of skillsets.
- Great use of elevation.
- Brand new Veteran baskets.
- The wooded front 9 rewards great shots and punishes bad shots.
- The back 9 is less interesting, but I found it surprisingly fun. It is a great use of mowed fairways, elevated basket locations, and the limited available obstacles to reward well placed shots.
- At least at this time of the year, errant shots were very easy to find.

Cons:

- The shorter turf tee pads are directly on the ground, so they can be uneven in places.
- Hole 11 throws very close to a construction area. Hole 18 throws directly over a break/picnic area.
-It is a really long course (this isn't a con) with a few long walks between holes and a long walk from 18 to the parking lot.

Other Thoughts:

Course is fantastic. I'm almost ashamed that I hadn't played here before today. I played the shorts, but made an effort to pay attention to the longs, as well.

Prodigy baskets were replaced with Veterans baskets in Fall 2021. When you enter the facility, you can park next to the 10th tee box. If you want to start at hole 1, you'll see a small lot and the practice area at the top of the hill. Park there.
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KenanFlagler01
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Experience: 14.1 years 195 played 190 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Near-perfect F8, above average B10 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 31, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

The Claytons is a fantastic course in Alcoa, TN (near Knoxville). While playing the front 8 holes (the course loops back to the DGC parking area after 8 holes, with the 9th a decent walk away, and the character of the course really changes after the F8, rather than the F9), I honestly couldn't think of a reason not to give the course a 5.0 rating. Unfortunately, the flaws emerge on the Back 10. But still, this is a fantastic course and a must-play in eastern Tennessee.

+ First and foremost, the property here is very pretty and also well-maintained. This course is on the property of a private company, Clayton Homes, circling the campus, from the wooded F8 to the very open B10. On the B10, the grass is cut in the fairways. On the F8, the trees and underbrush are well under control. Great piece of land.

+ If you like courses that mix wooded, technical holes with open holes to bomb drives, you will love The Claytons. It really feels like two courses in one. The F8 is exclusively in the woods and very technical and challenging. It's also an extremely fun layout. (And I'm not just saying that because I got the suprise-of-my-life ace on hole #2 after missing my line, but somehow narrowly missing all trees and hitting dead-center chains!) Hole #9 emerges from the woods and is the first truly open fairway on the course. The next 9 holes continue this theme -- with scattered guardian trees dotting some of the fairways and marking the greens. Accuracy is still rewarded on the B10, as elevation is a factor and angles to the pin, still with some tree obstacles to avoid, are key to scoring well.

+ The Claytons has the best practice area I've ever seen on a course. There are three practice baskets and three practice tees to throw to these baskets. I assume one of the baskets (closest to the tees) is really just for putting, but the other two make for legitimate disc golf holes, complete with tree obstacles and fast greens. You could easily use one as Hole 0 or replace hole 11 (at least temporarily...and more on that in the cons) with a practice basket hole for a full 18. Very well done on the practice area.

+ Nice elevation on this course. It's not a mountain course with truly epic elevation, but there are several fantastic hole layouts that make great use of elevation: downhill holes where you will want to empty your bag, some uphill holes, and some fast greens with elevated baskets and/or baskets perched on hills and ridges. Nice risk/reward elements.

+ Very nice, flat, level, and big tee pads with turf on top of a solid framed surface.

+ Good tee signs at each hole showing the short (Blue) basket and long (Green) basket with accurate yardage and layout.

+ Great variety within the wooded holes (straight shots, right to left, left to right, downhill, uphill) and the open holes (par 4's, fast greens, alt tee pad #18 for a tougher and more dramatic finish).

+ With a Blue layout that I would consider really a white/Intermediate course and a Green layout that would rightly be a blue/Advanced course -- plus some alt "Gold' tee pads at the end -- this course has plenty of challenge (as well as fun) for players of all levels.

Cons:

I was seriously starting to check myself after the first 10 holes (the wooded F8, then the first two open holes of the B10) to see if I could think of any demerits for a near-flawless course. Unfortunately, a few not-so-minor problems emerge starting on hole #11.

- Hole #11 is an open hole that plays parallel to a road. Errant tee shots (particularly RHBH with too much hyzer) could go into the road. Also, there is an active construction site halfway down the fairway, with work site trailers, parked employee cars, and construction equipment. My son and I almost skipped the hole, but then decided we would just play very safe shots, not testing the road or the construction area, and settle for pars. Pretty big safety risk on this hole. If that construction area stays around for a while, a redesign of this hole is in order. If the construction area goes away soon, it's much better, but still not perfect with the road running parallel. However, you would have much more room to the right and no reason to test the left-hand side where the road is, without the construction area.

- Very long walk in between holes -- on most holes -- starting on hole #9. And then there is another long walk back to the parking area after #18. Also, there are not Next Tee signs or directional arrows to point you in the right direction. This isn't a problem on the F8, but is on the B10.

- I'm not sure what happened to hole #18, but it's kind of a mess. For the regular Blue layout (not the alt/Gold tee), it's almost a throw-away hole, under 200 feet with no obstacles, other than being backed up to the active construction area, so don't go long! The alt tee makes for a pretty dramatic and super-challenging finishing hole, playing through a narrow gap in the trees bordering a creek that separates the main campus area near the Clayton building and the vast, open park area where the last 7 holes are located. However, the gap is almost non-existent. It needs to be wider or at least trim back the trees. As it is now, it is a lost disc waiting to happen. It also seems to be pretty dangerous during work hours as the picnic table areas are right there in the landing zone...and you can't see them from the tee! So, this is another accident waiting to happen. Most people will therefore play the regular tee, which is, again, just a hugely disappointing, easy, sub-200-foot hole.

Other Thoughts:

All in all, a fantastic destination course in eastern Tennessee. A few holes on the back 10 are disappointing and detract from an otherwise near-perfect disc golf course that will challenge you and is a lot of fun to play.
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ReinZ_96
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.8 years 104 played 48 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Claytons 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 17, 2021 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

1) Hole design and variety. The Claytons Disc Golf Course has a little bit of almost every style of disc golf on offer. The front wooded holes are mostly shorter and highly technical and there are a few holes with steep elevation changes. The shots are, for the most part, highly technical but still doable and fair. Maybe favors lefties just a bit, but players of both handedness will need to use most of the shots in their bag to get into good spots on every hole. Hole 1 is the only tee shot that I would venture to call unfair as the only line that can get you to a very good place is not something most people have (RHFH/LHBH overstable flex shot through a blind gap about 100ft off the tee). The margin for error is very small, and the likely punishment for missing is a trip to bogeyville. Most of the rest of the shots are hard but definitely doable for any intermediate level player or above. The back holes play almost entirely in the open and use the elevation in tandem with the few scattered trees to create an interesting and fun contrast to the front holes. Going in I expected to not really enjoy these holes, but I was pleasantly surprised as there is good variety and there is still some shot shaping required on a couple of the holes. There is some distance, but the pars are pretty soft (specifically for the long pins) so bigger arms will be looking to birdie basically every hole and maybe get some eagle looks. I don't think it's technically intended, but I also played the tall grass OB for a little extra challenge. Though, the fairways are mowed very wide so getting off them usually takes a pretty bad shot so, other than hole 16 in the long pin, it didn't change my game plan at all. The major plus of the wide cut fairways is that lost disc potential is quite low, which usually isn't the case for holes out on a prairie.

2) Baskets. Nearly brand new Prodigy ones, in great shape. Some people consider that a con, but I think they are great baskets. There are also two permanent locations on every single hole. They are color coded blue (shorts) and green (longs). On most holes the two baskets play very differently, and the lines are far enough apart that going the wrong one off the tee isn't really a worry. 5, maybe 7, maybe 8, and 11 are the only notable exceptions. 11, though, is the worst offender by far as the short is pretty much exactly on the line to park the long. Overall, I'd say the longs probably play easier than the shorts, relative to par, due to most of the long pins being short par 4s and a very short par 5 (probably should be a par 4, tbh) as opposed to almost entirely par 3s, some quite long and difficult, for the shorts.

3) Tees. 16 holes have one of them, holes 15 and 18 have two. 15s long is much longer and makes the hole exceptionally difficult, as far as I can tell most people play the short. 18s long is the main tee, the short is for anyone who can't/doesn't want to throw over the creek because it's decently wide, murky, and looked deep enough to make getting a disc back very difficult. But, clearing the creek doesn't take that much power with how downhill the hole is. I'd say anyone with 300 feet of power can easily clear it over the trees every time as long as they don't shank it. Except for the long pad on 15 (which seems to have just been forgotten about and is concrete) all of the tees are turf. They are all perfectly level, flat, plenty large, generally well built, and in great shape.

4) Tee Signs are pretty amazing; some of the best I've come across. Very detailed, accurate, visually appealing, and simple.

5) There is a quite nice practice area with a basket to putt at and then an entire practice hole. Though, it is not a super long one so some netting somewhere to warm up drives into would be nice. But, it's still a much nicer warmup area than most courses have.

6) Stairs and landscaping, especially up and down the really steep hill between 7/8 and down off the pad on 8. The stairs made getting my cart up the hill a massive chore, but it is the only spot on the course where I had any trouble at all, and it wouldn't have been any easier without them given the steepness. Also, great for erosion control and just general safety. I could see someone taking quite a tumble here without the stairs if the hillside was muddy. A few tees and baskets also have nice landscaping around them.

Cons:

1) A couple areas could be a bit dangerous. Hole 11 is relatively long, has a well trafficked road on the left, and construction site/what looks to normally be a parking lot on the right. Road isn't really in play, but it wouldn't be hard to get to it, construction site is 100% in play. Then hole 18 very much brings the walking path into play. The path is nearly completely hidden from the tee and there is no easy way to check the path for pedestrians so you're pretty much just going to be throwing an hoping no one is there every time you throw unless you have someone standing down by the basket, which is a good couple minute walk to get to.

2) The walk is long and sometimes navigation isn't the most intuitive. The hole length is not the con here, but the sometimes very long walks between them is. I may have just missed them, but I don't recall any 'next tee' directional markers. 8 to 9 is across the road that continues past the parking lot (behind hole 1) and down a path in the woods. 9 to 10 is across the main entrance road and under the patch of trees. 11 to 12 is a couple minute walk over the bridge across the creek and around a few bends on the walking path. Then most of the holes on the back have long walks between basket and tee, though they are mostly visible from the previous hole's long basket. The short baskets, not so much. Then the walk after you throw your drive on 18 is the same walk from 11 to 12 but in reverse and 18s baskets are a few minute walk from the parking lot by hole 1.

3) As mentioned in the section about the design there's a couple iffy things going on in the woods holes, but it's nothing major. Hole 1 was already mentioned. Hole 2 short is in a pretty awkward spot where sticking something in the circle is very unlikely unless you can hit the like 5 foot wide tunnel down the left side. But, just throwing down the right side to the base of the hill and pitching up is a pretty easy 3. Then hole 7's landing area is very tiny, which isn't a problem in and of itself with how short of a par 4 it is but the second shot has a few pretty skinny trees and the gaps are maybe a little too tight. Just taking out the one skinny tree in the middle of the gap would probably make the hole completely fine. Kind of a shame on this one too, because the long pin on 7 is probably my favorite pin location on the whole course. Hole 15s long basket (short tee) also takes a pretty tricky line for a birdie look, but unless you are playing the tall grass OB like I was you can just chuck something out the gap and lay up for your 3 without much worry.

4) Despite the generally immaculate condition of the course and the maintenance when I was there hole 10 was quite soggy. The tee was soaked (not slippery, just wet) and most of the fairway had some water on it. Not enough to visibly puddle, but enough to sink into and get your feet wet. It hadn't rained very much (if at all) recently so it seems like it has to be a general issue on the hole and not just the conditions of the day, but I also could have just caught it at a bad time. No other spot on the course had this issue. Also, as mentioned above, the long tee of 15 just seems like it's abandoned and the fairway is overgrown, almost to the point that it's unplayable. Unfortunate, because it could be a very tough and technical par 4 that contrasts greatly from the other holes on the back if it was cleaned up.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, The Claytons is a very nice course. I had a blast and will probably play the course again if I'm ever around Knoxville in the future. The multiple permanent pins allow for a lot of variety and you can mix and match baskets as you please to play exactly the layout you want at any time. The course is definitely not championship level difficulty, more like a tough intermediate to advanced level course as most, but the quality of the design and the (generally) very good maintenance and condition of the course makes it feel championship worthy. I'm very torn between 3.5 and 4.0. A 3.75 is really the perfect rating for this course. Though, I feel that there is just good stuff going on and the fun factor is high enough to go with the 4.0.

At the time of my writing the two most recent reviews seem to paint a picture of a course that's nearly a dumpster fire and that's just not the case in anyway whatsoever. The few people I ran into the morning I played all said they think the course is great, including one who told me it's the best course in the Knoxville metro. Maybe the most recent reviews are just a case of a vocal minority, or maybe that was the people I ran into on the course, but I digress. Either way, I greatly enjoyed the course and highly recommend a stop at it if you are in the area.

If you don't have time to play both layouts, or only wish to play one round, during your visit this is my (Lefty, max distance just over 400ft, and forehand only good out to about 250ft) recommendation for the most fun pins to play;

Hole 1 - long: Tricky tee shot, tight dogleg right, then steep uphill to the basket.

hole 2 - long: Steep downhill, plays maybe like 250ft, small creek behind basket but no lost disc worries.

Hole 3 - short: Sharp dogleg right, basically a forced LHBH/RHFH. Bigger gap on the left, very hard to get to the circle; small risky gap on the right for a more direct line.

Hole 4 - long: Straight, slight finish left, a little downhill with fairway sloping left to right.

Hole 5 - short: Simple soft left to right shape, elevated basket.

Hole 6 - long: Downhill, short par 4 (maybe should be a par 3, but I digress). Great eagle opportunity for longer throwers, pretty hard to bogey without an early tree hit.

Hole 7 - short: Straight, deuce or die.

Hole 8 - any: Both pins very steep downhill. Short is mostly straight, long is to the right and blind.

Hole 9 - short: Long open par 3. My only birdie during my round on the shorts. -_-

Hole 10 - any: Both basically the same shot, one a bit left one straight, straight one is slightly longer.

Hole 11 - any: Same shot, long is just longer. Maybe play short so you don't grey ace the short while trying to throw to the long like I did. LUL

Hole 12 - long: Good, open par 4. Needs a well placed tee shot to be able to stay clear of the woods on the left during the approach. Basket on a small ridge.

Hole 13 - long: Short par 4, downhill, tight landing zone for average power players. Another possible eagle for (very) long throwers. Rough is thick, most technical hole on the back (excluding the aforementioned long pad on 15)

Hole 14 - long: Another short par 4 and uphill with a blind tee shot. Basket in the tree line on the hillside.

Hole 15 - short: Little RHBH/LHFH pitch hyzer. Deuce or die.

Hole 16 - long: Long-ish crescent shape par 4. 500ft if you throw straight at it over the prairie grass, two well placed 325ft shots will have you parked if you stay in the short stuff.

Hole 17 - long: A bit uphill and long, but a par 5. Pretty easy eagle for anyone who consistently throws 400+. I short armed my second shot and had a 50 footer for eagle, missed it, of course. :p

Hole 18 - short: Perfectly framed up basket from the tee, throw down the middle or over the top. 400ft, downhill, probably plays 350ish.
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Bennybennybenny
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 13.2 years 306 played 288 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Welcome to the neighborhood 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 7, 2019 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

-It's back. A part of it was gone and it's finally back. When a part of you is dead, you must resurrect that part of you and that's what happened to the Claytons. Front nine was closed from the Spring of 2017 until the near end of 2019. All that was seen of the front nine during that timespan was on facebook. Many posts about when the front nine at The Claytons would reopen and whether or not it's only a hoax? It wasn't because it's back. This is a unique disc golf experience in the Clayton homes. This is neighborhood disc golf! It's like the ultimate backyard disc golf experience on the front nine, and the back nine is even better. It's open and filled with some excellent high quality holes with their own distinctive merits. You feel like you're playing off the side of a highway and you almost are actually.

-I never played the original layout. But this layout is really well designed overall if you play the long pins. I think most of the short pins serve some sort of purpose with their lines but the long pins are more enjoyable. You start off with a pretty short par four (I think 414') but it's very demanding. It's a dogleg right that requires a left fade for the first shot to the landing zone. If you don't get to it, you'll have to really fight for a par, as a birdie is challenging enough if you get to the ideal spot. The second shot is uphill and down a wide enough fairway but not much room for a shank. The short pin is a hard par three. The basket is straight ahead but the fairway to get to it is curvy. You have to throw an anny righty flick. #2 is a challenging but awesome downhill par three to the long pin. Fairway is tight the whole way to the basket, which is close enough to a ditch.

-You pull in, and you'll see three carpet pads and two pin positions for practice.

-Throughout your round, regardless of which pins you play. You'll see some very cool greens. Many of those particular greens are man made platforms surrounded by concrete. The time and effort placed on making those greens is highly appreciated. Many other greens here are special too, as they test the quality of your decisions. They are pretty scary. Hole 5's short pin in particular is quite intimidating on an elevated structure.

-The elevation here isn't extreme, but it's enough to heighten the enthusiasm of playing this course. The best part of it in my opinion is the atmosphere, as you have a different feeling than you would at a regular park course. The first eleven holes is neighborhood disc golf. The last seven make you feel like you're in a huge demolished city on the side on the city. The elevation is icing on the cake. The first few holes utilize it well. #8 is a really cool downhill par three. The short pin is probably the better pin on this one. You throw straight downhill to a basket on a platform 228' away. The long pin is a challenging sidearm hole. #18's back pad makes a fantastic finisher. You throw down a hill and ideally, through a gap. The creek is right in front of the gap, meaning if you miss you might be wet.

-#18 would probably be without much debate, the main signature hole. However, the atmosphere and the looks really blew me away. Holes 15 and 16 long are my favorite holes here. #15. Not only does it have two pads, but the long pad has you throwing through what is one of the most incredible gaps I've ever seen. It's very tight and sketchy but you can see the 454' pin position from here. The temptation for skilled players to go for the eagle is real, but it's so risky to even attempt to throw a driver. The ceiling is low, and the trees splitting the gap aren't spread far apart. This hole is hard enough, but the long pin is even harder. It's a hard par four for pros. You have to execute a safe shot through the gap to even have a possibility to tame this hole. The second shot is through another gap that takes you out of the woods. Two back to back tight gaps. Holy cow. The short pad is a great birdie opportunity to the short pin.

-#16's long pin is surreal. You really feel like you're in a demolished city when you stand on the pad and look at the long pin. The fairway is shaped like a C, but it's pretty much wide open. Hole is 668' if you play it conservatively and is about 540' in a straight line. The rough that separates the fairway is in the open but filled with low limbs in the ground. You go in there, you may lose a disc. But if you spot it, it won't be too bad of a hazard.

-It's a walk. However, the amount of construction that was done here is impressive. There are so many stairs and bridges that'll prevent you from danger.

-Throws curveballs at you. The front nine is incredibly challenging. Even the short pins are very hard. Some are actually harder. For instance, hole nine is a 426' par 3 in the short and a 565' par 4 in the long pin. The long pin is easier because you can bomb a nice drive without as much accuracy to obtain a three than you would need to deuce the short pin. You'll be fighting to not go over par on the front, but then you also see some scraps of redemption. For instance, holes seven and eight in the short pins aren't too difficult and give a greater chance for birdie. If you play the longs and are able to pull off decent distance and accuracy, you might be able to knock out a birdie. But there aren't any easy birdies on the longs until you reach hole nine. The back nine isn't quite as hard. The long pins have quite a few softer par fours. #17 is a short par 5, being only 725' long. #13 is probably the easiest par 4 on the course. I had a short upshot for my second shot on this hole. But it's still a gem of a hole. It's slightly downhill and very pretty. There is a wider gap about 320' from the pad. The green is wooded and the woods are quite sketchy on this hole, so it'll still make you think. A few good birdie opportunities on the shorts would be maybe 13, 15 short, 17, and 18 short.

-Nice accurate tee signs with hole diagrams.

-There's a donut shop nearby. Richy Creme! They have great jelly donuts and coffee!

Cons:

-The carpet pads can get very slick in the morning dew or during or after a rainfall.

-Some of the fairways for the short pins are ridiculous. Sorry to say it, but hole three in the short is awful. I mean really awful. I thought the short for hole one was fine and the short for hole two was weird. But hole three's short pin is a detriment. It's a dogleg right and maybe 60' to the middle of the landing zone. So take the total distance (288') and subtract 60' and you'll see that you have to throw over 200' to the right side just to be at circle's edge. Impossible. Not to mention, the fairway tightens a little. Don't like #8's short pin at Rotary? Well, you'll see something similar here. The long pin is a par 4 and it's not a great hole, but at least it serves a purpose. Throw a nice cutroller or sidearm and go far to the right and throw up a hill. At least a birdie is within reach to the long. And #6 needs some trees removed. There's not really a fairway to the short pin, making this hole very irritating. The long pin is only 393' and is a par 4 so it's really silly. Just improvise and roll with the punches and you'll probably get a ho hum four. If you get relatively lucky and miss all those randomly spaced trees, you'll likely have more room for a three. But the green is also guarded by many trees that offer no line. The hole has no real fairway.

-#16 is awesome in the long pin, and its really bad in the short. The short pin is over 400' and is a par 3. The basket is about 10 o' clock from the tee pad and into the woods. You have to throw a ridiculous flip up to enter the woods. The basket is at least 60' past the woods. This is like a classic Russell Schwarz inspiration. Discs don't fly like that.

-You are going to walk a lot. #18 ends quite far from #1. You could drive down to the other side of the parking lot once you finish hole #8 so you won't have to walk as much.

Other Thoughts:

-I loved The Claytons. I think some of the shorts need improvement. And I know for sure that hole three could be far better than it is now in the short pin. But the long pins really give the ultimate experience. Some of the short pins I enjoyed, such as #5's elevated basket. #8 was an awesome look. #15 was a real joy to play, and #18's pin straight ahead on a hill was awesome too. Some of the other shorts were well thought out too. But I think the long pins are better as a whole. You'll have more birdie opportunities and an easier time saving par on the back nine, but I thought the front nine was fun for the most part.

-For an optimum layout suggestion, l'd play 1L, 2L, 3L, 4S, 5S or L, 6L, 7S or L, 8S, 9L, 10S, 11L, 12L, 13L, 14L, 15L pad to short or long pin, 16L, 17L, 18 long to short pin. It would be challenging, but courses like The Claytons will make you better. You'll learn about shot shaping and ideas to get the optimum distance on the wooded holes. Course explicitly asks you to maximize placement.
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Cerealman
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Experience: 15.8 years 585 played 178 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Alcoa: A Lovely Course Offers Assortment 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 8, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

The Claytons is the fantastic result of a carefully crafted and well-designed course. Two thumbs up to Clayton Homes and the city of Alcoa for their efforts.

Hole #18 is the signature hole on this course. The over-the-creek and through-the-woods drive on the last hole is an excellent finishing hole that will prompt emotions of delight or disaster. Depending on the time of year, you may be able to retrieve your disc from the creek if your drive ends in a splash.

The picturesque Hole #1 is a fun start. Not only does the short basket offer the possibility to begin with a precious birdie (while making an ace run), the entire hole is visible from the parking lot. I've enjoyed arriving at the course and just watching other disc golfers throw on Hole #1 while I stretch and practice putting.

Plenty of variety on the front nine. The wooded holes provide excellent diversity in distance and design. Elevation is used wisely and while a few holes might present a bit of "poke and hope," most of the wooded holes are a fair test of one's accuracy. Hole #7 is a fun 231-foot shot to the short basket which requires navigating a few trees while throwing over a chasm.

Outstanding teepads and signage. Nearly every teepad is covered in artificial turf, which is a special amenity that adds to the experience. More courses should follow this example.

Hole #9 ends near the parking lot, allowing for a quick round.

Cons:

Filler holes. While The Claytons makes good use of the available territory, several holes on the back nine are obvious connectors to the next hole. Holes #11 and #12 are fairly open and not very interesting. And Hole #17 is a wide-open 525-foot hole, but it does offer a fun basket location on the side of a hill. The course experience might be slightly improved by playing the back nine first, allowing disc golfers to warm up their arm before tackling the technical and wooded front nine.

Lots of walking, especially on the back nine. Be prepared for a hike if you play all 18 holes. The walk from Hole #18 back to parking lot is a trek too.

Other Thoughts:

The quality of disc golf has significantly improved in the Greater Knoxville area recently. The three times I've played The Claytons has been coupled with a round at Tommy Schumpert Park in north Knoxville.

I agree with reviewer BogeyNoMore's assessment - this course is close to a 4.25; however, I can't round up when several filler holes detract slightly from the overall awesomeness of this course. But the variety and amenities are top-notch. The disc golf at The Claytons is fun too.
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EROPPER
Experience: 26 played 7 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 25, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Very well kept, the marking is good, tee signs are excellent

Cons:

Long walk from hole 18 back to Hole 1, VERY long and challenging for beginners, even from the "easy" pins

Other Thoughts:

Very long and challenging, but overall a high caliber course, the front wooded 9 are especially nice, easy to lose a disc on hole 18 in the river, although I made the gap and landed my tee shot about 50 feet from the pin, yay!
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Polecat-Meow
Experience: 12.7 years 44 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Technical Front, Biiig Back 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 5, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Tees are turf that always grip, two prodigy baskets for every hole. This is a fantastic course that will appeal to every level of player. Front 9 is in the woods with well laid out holes that offer multiple lines to most pins. Back 9 opens up big time, couple fun holes, 18 throwing across the creek is probably the signature but there is an alternate tee for this one if you don't have the arm to make it, you'll see this on the walk from 11 to 12. Very nice views from the 10 tee pad, great spot to empty your bag if there are no groups behind you. Two practice baskets to throw between near the tee for 1.

Cons:

I can't give this course higher than a 4 because a) there is a giant parking lot in the middle of the course that is full and busy all week b) a highway right next to it c) the back 9 can become kind of boring and d) this course needs time to wear in, maybe some changes are in order, I don't know but it's missing something that other courses in the area like Tommy Schumpert and The Mounds both have and the Claytons just don't got it.

Other Thoughts:

I didn't like this course much at first, but it grew on me quite a bit and may grow on me more. At the end of the day it's a championship level course that will undoubtedly host some great tournaments and bring attention to the growing disc golf hub that is Knoxville and for that reason I give it major props. Come play this one if you haven't yet!
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calebxen
Experience: 19.9 years 7 played 3 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Excellent overall course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 3, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

Amazing mix of holes, front 9 almost exclusively technical wooded holes where the back 9 is almost all open distance holes
Wonderful tee pads, all concrete and vast majority have artificial turf to keep grip
Excellent baskets, all very new prodigy with tons of chains to stop the disc
Appropriately parred, there was a couple that were far too easy but could have just been a nice tee off
Challenging, not send you home crying but enough to make you work to keep on track for par
Some very memorable moments, such as the grand finale 18 from a mound way above the pin over a creek and through a small clearing in the trees

Cons:

Honestly I don't have many bad things to say about this course. Although it is a massive course, and physically grueling with all the hills. I say this more as a precaution instead of a con, but bring lots of water.

Other Thoughts:

Awesome awesome course. I really enjoyed playing it and will definitely go back, but didn't realize how much I enjoyed it until writing this review. There is very little negative feedback about the course, although I have only played it once and just played the short pins. I can not wait to go back and play the long pins. Easily one of the best courses in knoxville and I have played for many years. Can't wait to go try the longs. What are you waiting for??? Go play this course!!!
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BogeyNoMore
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 19.9 years 484 played 183 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Disc Golf finds a home at The Claytons 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 22, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

Beautiful course on wonderful hilly terrain that's open to the public and free to play. Located on corporate property (owned by Clayton Homes) - be respectful of the people conducting business here. Your behavior is on display for them to see, hear, and smell (as well as visiting customers and business partners). Don't do anything to make them regret giving us this gem of a course.

• Disc Play: Wonderfully balanced with a front nine that's woodsy and technical - forces you to hit a legit line without ever feeling poke'n'prayish. Back nine screams, "Bombs away, let it rip!" Elevation is well-utilized throughout: uphill, downhill, over gullies, up or down plateaus, pins on/near slopes. Posted distances seem accurate, but many holes play shorter/longer due to elevation changes. Several drop-offs and gullies positioned to create add'l trouble on bad kicks, early fades or squirrely turnovers, with sufficient holes playing flat enough to keep it from feeling like it's only about the elevation.

Plenty of variety in terms of fairways shapes, distances, elevation, type... very well-rounded and nicely thought out.

• Dual pins are well-suited to a pretty much the full range of players. On the front nine, the dual pins are located such that playing to one or the other usually changes the type of shot you'll throw off the tee. Kudos for not always making the short pin easier to get to. Back 9 is so open, it's hard for the longs not to be a longer version of the same shot off the tee, but the placements make use of different pockets of trees and/or elevation to make subsequent shots very different. Noodle arms may find even the shorts a bit daunting on a few of the back nine.

• Equipment: Everything is top notch, wonderfully executed, and in great shape. Nice sized concrete tees. Full time dual Prodigy baskets (pale blue = short, pale green = long)... never played on them before but I loved 'em - nice chain assemblies catch great, and deep baskets for no bounce outs. Easily visible in the woods or open fairways. Color tee signs overhead of hole layout with distances and locations of both pins. Benches at every tee.

• Routing/Nav: Quite good on the whole, but there were a few spots where I needed the map (9 to 10, and 11 to 12, plus a couple more times on the back 9). That said, tee signs clearly let you know if you made it to the right spot.

• Aesthetics: Very scenic and serene. Feels completely civilized, yet removed enough to feel a bit away from it all. Truly a nice walk through woods and lush green fields where you just happen to be keeping score. Stones retaining walls around several tees and pins add eye appeal and reduce erosion to keep the course looking nicer for longer.

• Memorable holes: 18 is an epic finishing hole. 400+ ft from an elevated tee over a Little River to a generous landing zone. From the elevated tee, the water carry isn't really an issue (even for my noodle arm)... but can you hit the gap in the trees to make it across? Leafy sentinels ensure the landing zone is only accessed with a reasonable amount of accuracy - not super tight, but definitely enough to make you pause for a moment on the tee. What direction did you say that wind was blowin'? A 2nd (shorter) tee serves as a drop zone/novice tee, eliminating the risk (along with the thrill).

• Drains well. Plenty of rain the night before, nary a swampy area the next morning.

• Fun Factor: Yes... yes indeed.

Cons:

Few, far between, and fairly minor.
• Front 9 has some muddy spots that can be very slippery when wet (more a heads up than a con).
• Back 9 has some long walks to next tee (see Other Thoughts).
• 11 short feels like a filler hole. However, 11 long is a monster where you're bound to give it all you got... plays too close to parking lot for a max "oomph" shot IMHO.
• The only thing missing are scorecards w/map... everything else feels so complete, their absence seems conspicuous.

Other Thoughts:

Like tight and technical? You'll love The Claytons.
Like to bomb? You'll love The Claytons.
Like a course that's well balanced ? You'll love The Claytons.
Like a course that's flat? You'll hate The Claytons.

Be prepared for a hike. The back nine is massive, and sprawls across quite an expanse of hilly terrain. Given the openness of these holes (plus a 2nd set of pins), it's somewhat necessary to spread things out to provide a reasonably safe buffer around the tees. Point is, there's simply no way to rush through it, but you'll want to take your time to enjoy this gem.

I found mixing short and long pins appropriately challenged my skill, playing 6 longs of the front 9. There's simply no need for noodle arms to play to longs on the back unless they just feel like throwing more.

This is what happens when a course designer who cares enough to do the little things right (and obviously the big ones, too) gets the proper funding. So well-executed, so polished, so complete, it's an absolute pleasure to play. Most definitely an excellent course, and would make a splendid venue for upper level sanctioned events.

This comes in just a tick below the other courses filling the 4.5 slot in my bag. Maybe I'm a crusty old bastard, but I don't throw the word "phenomenal" around unless a course really wows me. That said, can't fault anyone else for feeling that way.
Call it a 4.25 if you will and give my Destination Worthy stamp.
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hognosesucker
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 25 years 443 played 87 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Country club claytons 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 22, 2015 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

-Amenities. Probably the nicest teepads I've played on. Two baskets different colored baskets per hole, two tees on a couple holes (15 and 18). Kiosk with map. Good color signs with good information (route, distance, next tee etc., no suggested par). Pretty easy and consistent navigation (the next tee is always near or past the long basket)

-Good variation of hole types on the front nine. Valley shots, uphill, downhill, left, right, multiple shot holes when playing the longs with mostly defined landing zones.

The back nine plays to a totally different skill set. They are mostly big, open holes, but some still require good shot placement (10 long, 11 long, 14 long, 15 long to long, 16 short)

-Extras. There is an elevated basket on the front nine, hole 18 is a shot over the creek, baskets on mounds, about 1/3 of the holes have fast greens. Boulders placed around baskets (1 short, 10 short).

Cons:

-A couple holes on the front lack defined fairways, specifically hole 3 and hole 5. It's not that there were too many trees, they just have trees in unfortunate places, not golf shots that I have for sure. Both these holes also have some randomness involved in the land zone location for the long baskets.

-The back nine didn't really impress me. Hole 11 long has you playing over the corner parking lot, there was nothing to define a landing zone on this hole so the shortest distance is to take a hyzer over the lot. The majority of the variation on the back was that the baskets were placed on the edge of terraces. There weren't very many holes that had any bottlenecking along the fairways. Only 12, 14, 15, 16 and maybe 18 had any sort of bottleneck. Everything else was open tee, open basket.

-I didn't really understand the placement of the short tee on 18. It's a good challenge to the long basket, but the short basket was 80'-100' from the short tee and wide open. It ended up being the signature hole from the long tee (biggest elevation change on the course and a creek to cross) and a bad hole from short to short.

-A couple filler holes: 11, 12, 16 long, 17.

Other Thoughts:

I played a round to the shorts and a round to the longs (including long tees).The Claytons is the best course in the Knoxville area, and I consider it an excellent course. It is accessible to multiple levels of skill, it has a great mix of holes, and a championship length, but I wasn't blown away by the golf.
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Kilgorettrout
Experience: 3 played 3 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Best course in east tennessee, a must play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 15, 2015 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Turf teepads, two baskets per hole, ingenious design, amazing landscaping, a bench on every teepad, great mix of wooded/open holes, long or short course-you decide. Lots of $ went into this course, and it shows.

Cons:

There may be a couple holes on the back nine with some weeds, but as long as you dont try to bite off more than you can chew of the fairways you should not have a problem.

Other Thoughts:

I may be slightly biased because i havent played a huge amount of courses. I have played almost all east tennessee has to offer, also richmond hill in asheville, and a course in wy. Regardless, this is by far the most diverse, well designed, and generally comfortable course i have played on yet.
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