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Helotes, TX

The Zip

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Monocacy
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Experience: 24 years 493 played 75 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Zip lines and disc golf

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 10, 2024 Played the course:once

Pros:

I enjoyed the Creekside course at The Zip very much and would happily play here again. Nice mix of longer multi-shot holes and shorter, more technical holes. Two tees on most holes, with the course length ranging from around 6,150 to 7,320 feet. Some fun uphill and downhill throws early on, but elevation changes become less of a factor later in the round. Obstacles near the basket are a well-executed recurring theme.

Lots of nice touches throughout. Good turf tees, reasonably sized and level. "Next tee" signs wherever direction to the next tee was not obvious. Color-coded rocks (red and blue) mark the short and long tees. Suspension bridge conveying players across the creek.

The OB creek comes into play frequently. I particularly enjoyed #17, where the drive angles across the creek with the basket set on a skippy rock ledge near water's edge. The 900' #3 was also fun, with an elevated tee and a protected river's-edge basket. Also notable was #12, a low-ceiling right-turning drive with the creek bordering the left side of the fairway.

Clean port-a-pots and a handwashing station near the parking lot.

Cons:

Tee signs list par and distance but do not include hole maps, which would be helpful on quite a few of the longer holes. Discatcher baskets are old, faded, and sometimes difficult to spot. The basket for #11 near the creek is noticeably leaning.

Holes #4, #15, and #18 were wide open and not very interesting. These were my least favorite holes on the course. Speaking of #18, it looked like there was an OB carry marked by small flags. A tee sign delineating OB would have been helpful here because I did not see the flags until after throwing.

There is a bit of horse poop on the course, but I had no issues. Good compost.

Other Thoughts:

On a breezy January day, I had the course to myself except for one other group and a few horses that were grazing peacefully by the fairway for #18. The staff were friendly and helpful, despite the need to fill out a painstakingly thorough liability form.

$10 to play, which seemed reasonable. One can reserve a tee time but it was not necessary on a breezy January day.
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markmcc
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Experience: 12 years 278 played 254 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Hill Country Fun 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 26, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course is set in a beautiful section of the Texas Hill Country just west of San Antonio, which means limestone hills, thick "cedar" trees, and a clear stream running down the center.

The disc golf course is placed mostly in the flatter bottomlands not used by the zipline course, but there is enough elevation to keep things interesting. I understand that there was previously a much steeper version of this course, and eventually the plan is for two, 18-hole courses. But for now the Creekside Course is what is available.

Quite a variety of hole lengths, from 220' out to 915', with most of the holes playing in the 300' - 500' range.

I found the shorter, wooded holes to be the most interesting and challenging, with some line shaping required and in some cases low headroom, etc.

Hole 3 (915' Par 4) is a fun "top-of-the-world" shot from a hillside down into and then across a huge mowed field to an elevated creekside basket.

The beautiful clear creek splits the course and comes into play with two close creekside baskets and two holes crossing the creek. There is a really nice suspension bridge that facilitates crossing the creek on these holes. A couple of other holes play alongside the creek and require some attention to shot-shaping to stay dry.

The baskets are older DisCatchers, most double-chained but a few single-chained as well. Some were looking a little rough but they functioned ok. Several baskets are raised and two hang from trees.

Recycled synthetic turf teepads are flat and easy to throw from.

There is a decent sized parking area and restrooms at the beginning of the course.

Cons:

My biggest con of the course is the numerous holes that throw primarily over open ground. The finishing hole is a prime example, with 510' of nothing between the tee and the basket. Not. A. Thing. The basket is elevated on some old farm equipment to make it a bit more interesting, but the hole itself is a lackluster way to finish. Hole 4 is a similar hole playing the same direction across the same field but uses the only two trees in the field as mandos to keep you away from Hole 18.

There are several other holes playing primarily over open ground, with the basket slightly up on a hillside or tucked into some trees. Few holes required a particularly accurate drive.

There is no map or teesigns beyond a few small wooden signs with hole number.

While the open ground was mostly mowed, there is a lot of coarse weedy vegetation and once it grows up disc finding becomes a challenge. Some taller areas required that you carefully mark your disc location before moving off the tee, as once you got out into the fairway it all blended together.

Other Thoughts:

After spending two summers in Maine and enjoying their well-polished and well-maintained P2P courses, I was reminded that not all pay-to-play is handled with the same attention to detail. I booked (and paid for) my tee-time online, and arrived at the designated 9:00 time to find... nothing. The Office/Pro Shop wasn't open and nobody was around. I called the designated number and was told that it would be a while before they got down there, and to go ahead and play the course. The problem was that I found no map, no scorecards, nada.

Luckily a couple of regulars showed up and showed me where to begin and gave me the basic layout and flow of the course. That along with the uDisc map allowed me to play the 18 holes without much issue, but it wasn't a great first impression of the overall operation.

To be fair the staff was present at the end of the round and were helpful and friendly. We took care of the required paperwork (liability waiver) and I was told that it was valid until the end of the year. With that in place, and having now navigated the course once, it will be easy to drop in for subsequent rounds.
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WD09
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Experience: 19.8 years 675 played 73 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Zippity Doo Disc 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 1, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

Beautiful setting with Texas Hill Country views.

Turf tee pads on all holes, most are level and well-oriented.

Wooden signs to mark the hole number on all tees and occasional "next tee" signs to point the direction after holing out.

Nice suspension bridge for the two creek crossings that occur while playing holes 6 and 17. (Each of those holes tee off from one side of the creek and play to the other.)

Generally good use of topography, with elevation changes and the creek creating challenge. Several pins are very close to the creek.

Each time I have been to the course, the water in the creek has been low enough and clear enough to make disc retrieval pretty simple. So it is the best of both worlds, in my opinion - you get the danger of OB strokes with natural OB, without the danger of losing discs.

OB is marked with paint and flags in a few places. I appreciate clearly-marked OB.

Variety of wide open holes and holes with fairly tight lines.

There are several raised baskets, which add challenge and sometimes (as with hole 3) make the pin easier to see from distance.

Hanging baskets add interest and challenge on two of the holes.

Port-a-potties on site, with hand-washing station nearby.

Cons:

While we did see a few "next tee" signs, this was not the norm. Navigation can be a challenge for first-timers, unless you prefer to look at your phone after you putt out on each hole. (I know that some players use an app to enter their score and then check the app for which direction to walk. If that's you, there's an app that has a course map in it. I prefer for time spent disc golfing to be time where I have no obligation to look at my phone.)

There would be flow problems and potential hazards if the course were crowded and definitely in a tournament situation. Multiple fairways run parallel to one another or otherwise border on one another in ways that create danger of hitting players on other cards. This problem is the worst on some holes that feature blind shots from the tee. During our round, a disc thrown from the tee of hole 3 landed within 40 feet of us when we were in the fairway of hole 4. (Hole 3 is the long downhill shot and it throws directly over the length of the fairway and tee pad of hole 2. The large tree guarding hole 1's basket obscures the view of much of hole 4's fairway from 3's tee.) A kick to the left side of the fairway on hole 9 (I think) landed my disc in circle 2 of hole 8's basket and a disc thrown from 8's tee landed next to my disc. On hole 18, we waited at the tee pad and watched as the guys teeing off on 17 yelled "fore" and threw over our heads. A long drive to the right on hole 6 can reach hole 17's tee pad. Players crossing the bridge on 17 must watch for drives from 6's tee and vice versa. It would be easy to be approaching the basket from the left side on hole 3 and be in danger of good shots from the tee of 17. You get the idea.

The designers have tried to mitigate some of the previously-mentioned problems by placing mandos all over the place, especially ones that divide the holes that cross back and forth through the large, open field (holes 4, 18, 5, and 6). The first of two mandos to the left on hole 4 is the one that forces players out toward the hyzering shots from hole 3's tee. The mando marking on hole 18 is a 3' high sign, so it makes for a good suggestion (to stay away from hole 6's tee box), but would be impossible to enforce, if you wanted to track it carefully for a tournament or cash round.

There are holes that have a choice of "go for it" or "lay up" from the tee, but few (if any) holes that have a choice of different routes to the pin, other than the wide open holes where you just throw you favorite type of shot.

Other Thoughts:

The baskets are experienced, old-school, double-chain Discatchers that have fulfilled their purpose many times over the years and continue to do so well. The two hanging baskets are Innova single-chain practice baskets.

The course design allows players to find shade on holes 6-17, with little shade on the other holes. This may be good information for planning the start time of your round. Starting early allowed us to get into the shade as the day started to heat up.

This new creekside course uses only two non-adjusted holes from the previous layout (2 & 5), but uses several tee and basket placements from the previous course with adaptations (basket of 1, tee of 3 different direction, tee of 6, basket of 17).

This course is decidedly NOT cart-friendly. Any cart-using attempts that were not already discouraged by the long walk up the fairway of 2 and beyond that to the tee of 3 would be met with a wooden ladder for the fence crossing in the fairway of 3. It would be several hundred yards of walking to go around. Beyond that, rocks and hills abound, so I would strong suggest carrying your bag.

There were four horses wandering through the fairway of 18 when we played it. Your experience may vary. This is an "other thought" because pro or con may depend upon the mood of each horse that day.

Sign-in is at the counter used for Zipline registration. An electronic signature on a waiver document is required, as well as a $5 fee. The staff members we encountered were friendly and helpful.

Overall, this is a great place to play and I highly recommend the experience.
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Pizza God
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Premium Member
Experience: 36.1 years 1727 played 579 reviews
5.00 star(s)

Should be called Paradise Valley 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 4, 2021 Played the course:once

Pros:

18 holes with a wide variety of shots.
Open and wooded holes
Water (creek) comes into play
Top of the world type shot

Cons:

A couple of the holes are wide open with mandatories to add some difficulty.
Still has gravel tee pads (however I was told new tee pads will be in this year along with more baskets ordered)

Other Thoughts:

Well worth the trip, great value for your green's fee. This course is only getting better with improvements. They literally just installed a large swinging bridge over the creek days before I played. Unfortunately for us, they just stained it and we could not use it.

I was told that more baskets have been ordered and that new tee pads made of Astro Turf were in the works.

I didn't get a chance to play the original layout, Creekside was just put in January of 2021. While it uses some of the same area, it is a different course than the hillside course.

But with that said, several par 4 holes with a few that make your drives placement important. Signature hole might be the 915ft shot off the side of the hill, across the road and down to the creeks edge.

The short holes are all along the side of the hill in a heavy wooded area and the creek. Perfect shots here will get your birdies.

I can't stress enough how enjoyable this course is to play. Yea, it is rough because it is new right now, but it is really the best course in the area for your overall game.

Would I play here again? Heck yea, When they put in the hillside course again, I will plan another trip to the San Antonio area to JUST to play this course again
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