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Van Buren, NY

Van Buren DGC

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DumfriesLizzie
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Experience: 5.6 years 111 played 102 reviews
3.00 star(s)

NOT at all for novices!!!

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 27, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

Challenging, varied course built on and around a reservoir with a large earthen dam. Open bombs and tight woods. Not busy at all during weekdays. Signature holes at nos. 1/17 (double pad), 4 (raging, crooked creek with "island" green), and 18 (sharply-descending closer that is totally bombs away).

Cons:

Tough elevation for the physically challenged. Walking up, down, around the massive earthen dam and its reservoir (there is also the smaller non-play earthen dam at the base of the reservoir) is real work at over 4 miles around.

The place is terribly, terribly muddy and wet in winter/early spring months. The ground was so saturated the day I played that I could *hear* underground water flowing down into the reservoir from the sloped plain that has nos. 2, 6, 7, and the approach and green of no. 1. Is the water table this high in sea-level Syracuse? Just total sogginess, rivers/lakes of water on fairways and trails, and deep mud all other places. Ugly and miserable! One can very easily slip and fall down grades and definitely should be in hiking boots and clothes you don't care much about if it has rained/snowed.

Only blue tees exist, and those are actually suited for high-intermediate, advanced, and pro players. Not us short-throwing, low-power folks. I saw one gold tee marker on no. 11 (no others). And I saw absolutely nothing for the white tees that I intended to play on this March 2023 outing.

As noted by others, there are *still* no hole signs, no next-tee signs, baskets are not numbered, DZ at no. 14 is not marked. UDisc is indeed *still* required!!

Plan on being here for a long time. It took me 3.5 hours. Of course, some of that was trying to find tees and baskets...

Other Thoughts:

The pictures here on DGCR are now out-of-date. I thought it would be more confusing to upload pictures that indicate the extensively-revised routing (different hole designs, renumbered holes). The 2021 course map is almost correct except no. 4 is totally diabolical now (see above). Also the blue tee (only pad available) is in the gray locations on holes 13-16.

The course has the potential to be world-class. However, the county seems not to have the money nor the interest to build all of the pads and create the signage. It's already several years now since the course was installed. A GoFundMe campaign likely is needed to help the local club finish the work. But, of course, that is up to them.

I hope to have a better outing when I play it again this summer (next trip to Syracuse). Maybe it will be dry and sunny. The ground as well as the sky!! (smirk).
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mthammer
Experience: 29 played 12 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Great start 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 16, 2016 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Good variety of holes and shots. Elevation changes present fun and challenging shots. There are lines in the wooded holes and you won't be terribly punished for missing them. Use of the water is good and you can play without risk of a lost disc. Go for it on 16 but use plastic that floats.

Cons:

Some of the holes don't have much going on. 1 and 2 aren't very interesting or challenging and it's a long backtrack to 3. 18 is long, but no obstacles.

Other Thoughts:

The cons are outweighed by what I think are some of the best holes in CNY. 4 is a fun "Top of the World" shot. 6 is a great use of a creek, and my favorite hole. 7 is a fun challenge and the wooded holes are creative.

It's brand new and it's going to get better.
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