grodney
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Sure you can walk. Over 3 miles on the Creekside course. I imagine Lakeside is shorter. No benches.
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I have yet to play Flip, but plan on donating much more than a single dollar. To me, having a top course within a (relatively) short drive of my vacation property is an investment well worth making.I have never played Flip and given Bill less than 10.00. I consider it a donation course and I am more than willing to drop some coin to play one of the nicest disc golf experiences around.
Sure you can walk. Over 3 miles on the Creekside course. I imagine Lakeside is shorter. No benches.
I think I'd pay $50 for one of those ribeyes and that skillet of pork 'n eggs... (and a Shiner)!
John, I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you on both points.
People who look bad after this: ambroze, puckstopper
People/Parties who look good after this: Selah, John, Dave
I probably won't play Selah for awhile because I live far away and have no reason to go to Texas but this stupid argument has not painted Selah or Dave in a bad light at all for me. He answered the questions and IMO wasn't overly patronizing or arrogant about it. This borders on slandering IMO.
To get back to discussion about the courses...
I'm surprised everyone seems to be hating #14 Lakeside. Sure, the first time I played it, it seemed impossible, but the more I play it, the more I figure it out. Had reasonable putts for 3 the last two times I played it in a singles round. Don't bite off more than you can chew, I throw mids off the tee to stay far enough back and have a variety of options to the basket. I need to get back there and birdie that sucker.
Also, the more I play it, the more I like Creekside (unless there is a 30mph headwind on 17 & 18). I like Lakeside better, but the only big negative I can say about Creekside is that it is next to Lakeside. Actually, that's not even true, I love the contrasting ways you have to play both courses, and playing them back to back is fun. You can say that there are field holes out there, but the trees are large enough and in just the right places to make you have to place your throw in a good position. You can get away with a little more, but the length and other factors like basket placement still make you execute.
I enjoy #10 Creekside. I throw one of the two hyzer routs, never considered the inside rout. I joked with my partner that John will put a mando on a tree to keep people like me from avoiding all the trees there. That round I threw into the field and then threw over the trees to the opening of the peninsula to the basket.
Now there's an idea I can get behind.
If you want to drive out to the short tee and go big hyzer around everything from there, more power to you. You'll never see that mando. People having a hard time with Creekside #10 should know that we finally removed about 10 trees on that second shot (or first shot from the short tee) just before the tournament. That right side route now looks just how it was meant to look. Sorry it took so long. Also took out three key trees on the lefty route of #11.
I didn't really figure there would ever be one there.
I said that because you took the big hyzer on 18 Lakeside away when that was a popular route during Paige and EMac's tourney. I know the reason for that was safety though (or was it really so we would "man up" ).
I love seeing the courses evolve. Even from my first rounds there last fall, I've seen the trees go in or out for improvements. If you don't mind me asking, what were the thought behind putting trees in/near the existing first landing zone on 15 Lakeside? I found that to be one of the more difficult par-5s without water in play, and later it is going to be a real brute.
I love the par-5s at Selah. They are all a little different, and well designed ones are tough to come by like them.