So when I have a good drive, snap feels good, disc goes very far, it's always to the right of my target (RHBH). Wondering what I should concentrate on to get my drives back on line? By the way this is only about a 3rd of my drives. The rest of my drives I don't feel like I have a great release, they don't go as far, but they are on line or left of the target. I wonder if I am not getting my body fully turned enough away from my target. Also most of my drives I may be releasing early because of my fear of pulling the disc too far right.
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Throwing too far right on good drives
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Your better drives are getting more high speed turn. Until you get some consistency with your snap you're not going to be able to predict whether or not you should change up your aim.
garublador
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I'd check these things:
1. weight back at release.
2. disc not close to the body.
3. starting your pull too early (e.g. in motion forwards hard before your plant foot hits the ground).
You want your weight forward while pulling with the disc close to your body and you don't want to start your pull until after your plant foot has hit the ground.
1. weight back at release.
2. disc not close to the body.
3. starting your pull too early (e.g. in motion forwards hard before your plant foot hits the ground).
You want your weight forward while pulling with the disc close to your body and you don't want to start your pull until after your plant foot has hit the ground.
I think you may have nailed it with these.. these are things I know I've had problems with. I just started a few days ago concentrating on pulling the disc close to my body. Saw the youtube video of the guy who does the drill from the "hit" on (starting at your right pec) and have been practing that some. Starting my pull too early I know I have a hard time getting that timing right.
In addition to those three things try noticing the angle of release. If the outside rim is tilted a little up then the disc will anhyzer to the right. Also, following point #1 above I would check your weight distribution and shoulder angle. If you are leaving your weight back and tilting your back should down to try to add power (subconciously) that could cause it too. You could also be throwing a disc that is either too light or too understable for you at this point. Sorry that I gave you so many things to think about. I guess I would just work through them by process of elimination.
The thing is these are really good throws. The snap feels good, release, actually angle looks good as well. It is a Valkyrie so I'm expecting some turn but the line is right immediately when I release it. I think those are all good things to check as well. Thanks for the advice.
garublador
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I'd expect that if you're doing one or more of the things I mentioned. You might actually get more snap, but will have a lot less control of the disc's flight and initial trajectory.
maynes32
Par Member
I had this problem myself recently, and for me it was about 80% pulling before fully planted and 20% I was generating more snap than slightly understable discs could handle later on in rounds. I try now to actually go "plant - pull", that is actually feel my foot hit before the pull starts. I think you can probably get away with starting a bit earlier than I am, but I'm trying to teach correct habits.
Best of luck,
BLM
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Moved.
I've been working through this also. For me a big part of the issue is starting the pull early ... before the plant. What has been helping me is to find my intended landing area and create a visual line with the flight characteristics of the disc I'm going to use. (this has been getting much easier to do and I'm finding it more critical the more I do field practice) I then don't think about the target landing spot anymore, just the line. The last thing I tell myself before I start my x-step is "slow down" and this has been keeping me in a better rhythm. It also stops me from trying to rip it too hard which usually results in pulling too early and off point.
Chucktown
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If you're drives are starting to go further to the right or turning over more, it may just be that the disc you are using is broken in, try buying a new one and see what happens.
Omega SuperSloth
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that could be a good thing, i like overstable drivers so to account for the skip i always aim right that way im always within decent putting range even if im off a little, now if i aimed at the basket every time id end up good sometimes but alot odf the time i would skip to far left.
basically i can throw for a 60 foot window but only be 20 ft from the basket on either side .
basically i can throw for a 60 foot window but only be 20 ft from the basket on either side .
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I have the same issue at times. I wish I could pop a good throw like I do sometimes (by accident), and do so consistenly. I know I have imperfect form and not great length, but I like my accuracy so I have not spent any time tinkering. I think I will look at this since it makes a lot of sense:
If I start my pull later (properly...as in at or later than my plant foot plants) but everything else stays the same, the release point will be later hence making the disc release line further right.
If I get my form better and more snap/power consistently on and open practice field and the disc is always being released further right than it used to, I will just reposition my approach/run-up....problem solved!
Good stuff - thanks! Now we'll see if it works!
I've really started doing this with my Valkyries. So I started aiming further left. I believe that the "far right" throws are the best throws from this understable disc. I'm just not taking into conideration the understability of the disc enough a lot of the time.
I've also started throwing more Wraiths (more stable for me at my current level) now when I don't want the disc to turn over as much. This has been a steady progression for me as my form and distance have improved. Keep workin' it!
I've also started throwing more Wraiths (more stable for me at my current level) now when I don't want the disc to turn over as much. This has been a steady progression for me as my form and distance have improved. Keep workin' it!
Omega SuperSloth
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i changed it from 40 to 60 but ithink its more like 40 as i dont want to land 20 feet to the left , accounting for the skip id want to land 40ft,20ft to the right of the pole or if it lands near the pole skip 20 to the left
I have some video of playing DG yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSGsVGrlnI0
I'm the guy in the red shirt.
These are not examples of "throwing it good to the right". I have plenty of my bad throws in there during the low-lights (first half of video). Just thinking maybe you guys can help identify those things you pointed out that I may be doing wrong in this thread. It looks to me like I'm doing the following wrong:
1) Reaching my shoulder back to far during the reach-back. This appears to me that it's causing my momentum to be backwards, then I overcompensate to get back to my line.
2) The disc is tilted anhyzer by the time I get to my reach-back. This seems weird to me because I honestly feel like I'm tilting my disc hyzer and is something I focus on.
3) Footwork just looks wrong to me. I can't quite identify what's off but it doesn't look smooth.
Thanks for all your advice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSGsVGrlnI0
I'm the guy in the red shirt.
These are not examples of "throwing it good to the right". I have plenty of my bad throws in there during the low-lights (first half of video). Just thinking maybe you guys can help identify those things you pointed out that I may be doing wrong in this thread. It looks to me like I'm doing the following wrong:
1) Reaching my shoulder back to far during the reach-back. This appears to me that it's causing my momentum to be backwards, then I overcompensate to get back to my line.
2) The disc is tilted anhyzer by the time I get to my reach-back. This seems weird to me because I honestly feel like I'm tilting my disc hyzer and is something I focus on.
3) Footwork just looks wrong to me. I can't quite identify what's off but it doesn't look smooth.
Thanks for all your advice!
Ok, lots of throws just me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJFQ15JmuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJFQ15JmuQ
MikeR
Bogey Member
Especially on the shanked throws it looks like your elbow isn't loose enough and the disc comes through and releases a bit further away from your body than the technique you are looking for. Your release isn't always consistent either so you some times get grip lock and release late. Thanks for posting the vid though, it gave me the idea to video some of my drive releases. BTW, looks like a nice fun course you are playing there.
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