All holes should be par 3!

[storyboy]

Think about it, You get a Drive, Approach, and Putt that's it! If its a 800' hole and you have a monster arm you could probably par, if noodle arm, to bad you might pick up a bogey, that's the way it goes. I think it would simplify everything with the par issues! O.K. flame away I can take it.

 

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[bradharris]

Think about it, You get a Drive, Approach, and Putt that's it! If its a 800' hole and you have a monster arm you could probably par, if noodle arm, to bad you might pick up a bogey, that's the way it goes. I think it would simplify everything with the par issues! O.K. flame away I can take it.

We have par issues???

 

[thrembo]

The par issue has already been resolved. Play them all as threes to make keeping score easier, measure your score against the course par to see how you did.

What we are arguing about now is what par on specific holes is.

 

[kutz167]

This.... Thanks, timg.

 

[1978]

You people. How 'bouts we make them par 0's to save having to use those pesky "-"s

 

[thrembo]

You people. How 'bouts we make them par 0's to save having to use those pesky "-"s

All par 5's would be better. Who doesn't like getting eagles?

 

[bradharris]

All par 5's would be better. Who doesn't like getting eagles?

But then I'd have to learn what 5x18 is. That seems like a lot of work...

 

[Jukeshoe]

Ho boyzers, here we goes again...

 

[Pwingles]

Worst troll thread ever

 

[sneakytiki]

I haven't been around long, and in that short time I have come to learn that new threads about par are almost always trolling garbage.

Either you don't understand what par is, storyboy, or you are trolling.

 

[_MTL_]

A sad but true story:

At a worlds once, they listed every hole as a par 3. There was an 800 foot hole that should have been marked a par 5. A group of women started on this hole. One of them was late and missed the hole. she got a 7 (par plus 4). Everyone who played the hole took 8's.

Now this girl picked up a stroke on the group simply because she missed the hole.

There were rumors that she did it intentionally, but couldn't be proven.

That is why par can't always be 3.

 

[Pwingles]

A sad but true story:

At a worlds once, they listed every hole as a par 3. There was an 800 foot hole that should have been marked a par 5. A group of women started on this hole. One of them was late and missed the hole. she got a 7 (par plus 4). Everyone who played the hole took 8's.

Now this girl picked up a stroke on the group simply because she missed the hole.

There were rumors that she did it intentionally, but couldn't be proven.

That is why par can't always be 3.

Well, that, and because its dumb....

You could just have a stroke limit, and do it that way, but thats also dumb, imo

 

[_MTL_]

When we actually do the right thing and DQ people for missing holes instead of this par plus 4 thing, then I won't care a lick about par and will argue that it truly doesn't matter until we hit mainstream because people understand par scoring because of golf.

 

[Cgkdisc]

How would you display live scoring that made sense comparing where players in different groups are currently ranked without having appropriate pars on holes?

 

[_MTL_]

How would you display live scoring that made sense comparing where players in different groups are currently ranked without having appropriate pars on holes?

Valid concern.

 

[vonDrehle]

A sad but true story:

At a worlds once, they listed every hole as a par 3. There was an 800 foot hole that should have been marked a par 5. A group of women started on this hole. One of them was late and missed the hole. she got a 7 (par plus 4). Everyone who played the hole took 8's.

Now this girl picked up a stroke on the group simply because she missed the hole.

There were rumors that she did it intentionally, but couldn't be proven.

That is why par can't always be 3.

 

[ejvogie]

All par 5's would be better. Who doesn't like getting albatrosses?

FTFY

 

[sneakytiki]

Par is for comparing scores across courses, not players on the same course. One could easily use number of strokes for that comparison. For this reason it is important to have well laid out criteria for par that can be followed for all courses in a consistent way. IDEALLY in a perfect world a single player playing two different courses with equally good rounds should shoot the same with respect to par. If they shot a +2 on one course and shot equally well at another course the next day they should have a +2 there as well. All par 3's would be far from achieving that.

I know this isn't the case now. It is hard to achieve that kind of consistency, especially with very short courses without having par 2's. The main point I am trying to make is the purpose of par. For it to mean anything it needs to be consistently judged based on hole difficulty across all courses for it to be useful in any meaningful way.

 

[DG_Before_Breakfast]

I like Pi. Then when I get a three, I'm still -0.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286...