The Foot "Fault"

[trumbulldore]

So I have this buddy I play with...

Basically When he putts he takes his back foot and crosses over the lie/marker while putting and before the disc lands in the basket he has stepped over the lie toward the basket. I know the answer to this but..is that not a foot fault? We're talking from 10 feet away If it's a casual round I don't pay attention to it, but we plan on doing 10+ tournaments this year.

 

[el siege]

Yes, that is a falling putt aka a foot fault

 

[zud00]

Tell him now so he can break the habit before it comes up in tourney play.

 

[trumbulldore]

Tell him now so he can break the habit before it comes up in tourney play.

He sadly doesn't take criticism well...I'll tell him again our next round out. Last time I told him he got well...:wall:

 

[sisyphus]

Ask him if he wants to win merch and money when he plays tourneys, then hand him a rule book. Say, "it's not me, bro..."

Or have him link to any of the monthly threads on this topic.

 

[scarpfish]

In an ideal world, at every PDGA event, there would be a tutorial before the event begins that all new to tournament players would have to attend about this very matter.

Actually, the more I think about it, in an ideal world, we wouldn't have to take things that far.

 

[trumbulldore]

Ask him if he wants to win merch and money when he plays tourneys, then hand him a rule book. Say, "it's not me, bro..."

Or have him link to any of the monthly threads on this topic.

Hahaha I love your style. I think I'll do both..or wait til we move from rec to intermediate and he gets called 14 times in one round :hfive:

 

[scarpfish]

Hahaha I love your style. I think I'll do both..or wait til we move from rec to intermediate and he gets called 14 times in one round :hfive:

The problem is they won't call it there either. Even most people in Intermediate I've met aren't exactly in touch with the rule book.

 

[markmcc]

In an ideal world, at every PDGA event, there would be a tutorial before the event begins that all new to tournament players would have to attend about this very matter.

I played in a tournament series in SW Colorado last summer that did a quick tutorial at the players meeting. More than a few players were surprised to learn that a disc on top of the basket wasn't in, and tapping the chains instead of dropping in your disc from 12" out wasn't counted as in either. Not a bad idea to spend a few minutes on commonly misunderstood rules.

 

[trumbulldore]

The problem is they won't call it there either. Even most people in Intermediate I've met aren't exactly in touch with the rule book.

Well that is a buzzkill..

The sad thing is he putts worse when he does it. he is quite the character but he is just fun to play with. I guess I'll just do the polite nice thing and be like..."dude, your faulting, just trying to be nice"

 

[markmcc]

Send him a link to the PDGA page that covers this, and includes a video showing acceptable/unacceptable putting.

http://www.pdga.com/rules/school/demonstrating-balance-putting

All he has to do is watch a video for a few minutes and hopefully he'll understand.

 

[Mabuku1]

Nope. If this dude's as close as you say he is, then you need to say "hey f#!#er, stop foot faulting, you keep pulling that in tournament and you're going to be labeled a cheater." Then look him square in the eyes and say "no homo." If he doesn't take your critique with the lighthearted joke mixed in, then there's something wrong with his social skills, and you might be better off playing without him at the tournaments. Good luck.

 

[T.Hizzle]

Feldman has been getting away with it for years and he is a top pro.

 

[Cgkdisc]

Actually he can swing his back foot forward immediately after the throw is released as long as he doesn't touch the ground in front of the mark until two seconds have passed and he doesn't fall down. Check both of the putts starting at 3:08 where both putts have the non-stance foot in front of the lie upon release, just not on the ground.

 

[Mabuku1]

Actually he can swing his back foot forward immediately after the throw is released as long as he doesn't touch the ground in front of the mark until two seconds have passed and he doesn't fall down. Check both of the putts starting at 3:08 where both putts have the non-stance foot in front of the lie upon release, just not on the ground.

I thought there was a rule change where you haVe to placE your foot back on the ground behind the marker, and demonstrate control before you proceed.??? No?

 

[mashnut]

I thought there was a rule change where you haVe to placE your foot back on the ground behind the marker, and demonstrate control before you proceed.??? No?

Nope, that was Feldberg pushing for that to be the rule and telling people that's how it was supposed to be interpreted without making sure the rules committee agreed.

 

[Mabuku1]

Silly feldberg. Always wanting to over complicate disc golf. Lol

 

[Cgkdisc]

At around 4:12, I did a foot drag that was legal but only because there were two seconds between release and when the drag foot touched the ground in front of the marker. If I were walking forward like the putts in section B and dragged the foot on those first few faults, I might still have faulted simply because I moved forward too quickly, even though both feet touched behind the marker after releasing the putt.

 

[Agricolae]

Actually he can swing his back foot forward immediately after the throw is released as long as he doesn't touch the ground in front of the mark until two seconds have passed and he doesn't fall down. Check both of the putts starting at 3:08 where both putts have the non-stance foot in front of the lie upon release, just not on the ground.

Before long people will begin to think the rules include maintaining balance behind the lie for two seconds. There is no time limit specified in the rules.

Chuck, I understand your insider's edge with the personal opinions of the Rules Committee, but the rest of us are using only the rule book, and its language, to the best of our ability. And, we're trying to get others to believe they can use it, too, without having to resort to a conversation with the RC.

 

[SteezeOG]

Actually he can swing his back foot forward immediately after the throw is released as long as he doesn't touch the ground in front of the mark until two seconds have passed and he doesn't fall down. Check both of the putts starting at 3:08 where both putts have the non-stance foot in front of the lie upon release, just not on the ground.

You must get deja vu a lot seeing this pop up. Kudos to you for providing answers one thread at a time. :clap:

I'd still be thinking the disc location was a part of the rule even though I had read it enough to know it wasn't even there. You just hear it so much from people you think they must all be right.