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What's up with this guy? PDGA conspiracy?

The Hammer

The Hammer

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I've noticed this guy, Bobby Garner of Hawaii, all over Facebook ranting like a crazed lunatic about the PDGA, John Houck, USDGC, Brian Graham, etc. I've seen him posting on the touring guys pages and other disc golf pages, and always bashing the crap out of the PDGA. Granted 80% of what he says is unintelligible, but I'm wondering what his story is. He makes some outrageous claims regarding conspiracies, coercion, discrimination, etc. He also talks a lot about Hawaii disc golf being oppressed. Clicking on his page reveals that he has been on this crusade for quite sometime. It even appears as though he was elected to serve as the PDGA Hawaii state coordinator at one time.

So what is the deal? Is this just some crazy disc golfer, or is there more to the story than meets the eye? I'm not looking to bash anyone, just genuinely curious as to the story that has this guy all fired up.
 
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I've heard the name and the adjective used to describe him is "crazy" I can't believe there is any grand PDGA conspiracy about anything because they seem to have a hard enough time getting memberships and renewals processed. They have a tough job to do with very little coming in. I support them because they support disc golf. I don't agree with everything but they have elections and I can voice my opinion by voting for board members who I do agree with. I see a lot of complaining from PDGA members and most of the time when I ask who they voted for last election they say "what election?"
 
Seriously its a native Hawaiian thing... Look at the battle they have been taking on for years and must not realize the superior quality of life they get being A PART OF THE LARGEST AND MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

Seriously those Islands are SO small that people there are just focused on weird stuff.

Hawaii is not legally a state!

It is easy to find the courage necessary to support a moral position if that position benefits oneself. True moral courage, however, is proven when one chooses to support that which is morally and ethically right even when such a position is to one's one detriment.

The people of the United States find themselves in such a position right now, forced to choose between a moral and ethical position that carries with it the potential for "inconvenience", or supporting the status quo and having to admit to themselves that they are not the champions of justice they imagine themselves to be. By the end of this article, you will know for yourself which one you are.

Most folks have heard that Hawaii is a state, one of the United States of America. Most people, including those who live in Hawaii, accept that statement as a fact. But the reality is that in a world in which nations are as bound by the rule of laws as are the citizens of nations (if not more so), the truth is quite different!
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Sound familiar to how big bad bobby talks about the PDGA? Yep.......
 
Aim For The Chains said:
Seriously its a native Hawaiian thing... Look at the battle they have been taking on for years and must not realize the superior quality of life they get being A PART OF THE LARGEST AND MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

Seriously those Islands are SO small that people there are just focused on weird stuff.



Sound familiar to how big bad bobby talks about the PDGA? Yep.......
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Interesting perspective. Perhaps you are on to something. I'm still curious as to how a guy like this could be elected to serve a state coordinator and be banned from the PDGA a short time later.
 
Hawaii is 10% paradise / 90% volcanic death and slums. Nothing surprises me coming out of there.
 
The Hammer said:
Interesting perspective. Perhaps you are on to something. I'm still curious as to how a guy like this could be elected to serve a state coordinator and be banned from the PDGA a short time later.
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DG is full of drunks with lots of time trying to do "it" without a clue what even "it" is IMO... The locals there are different for sure and specially the native ones who are not as "westernized" -- I will NEVER go back to HI.

New is on point-- you get out of the tourist areas and you might as well be in a 3rd world country.
 
We were planning a vacation to Hawaii, but after talking to a friend who lives there we decided to go to North Korea instead.
 
I don't think you can mention "DG opression in the US" without saying "Rhode Island" first. :D

Meanwhile, its no surprise he got kicked out---he wants a reality-show life, and wants everyone and everything to be a part of it, with himself as lunatic-in-charge.
 
The Hammer said:
I've noticed this guy, Bobby Garner of Hawaii, all over Facebook ranting like a crazed lunatic about the PDGA, John Houck, USDGC, Brian Graham, etc. I've seen him posting on the touring guys pages and other disc golf pages, and always bashing the crap out of the PDGA. Granted 80% of what he says is unintelligible, but I'm wondering what his story is. He makes some outrageous claims regarding conspiracies, coercion, discrimination, etc. He also talks a lot about Hawaii disc golf being oppressed. Clicking on his page reveals that he has been on this crusade for quite sometime. It even appears as though he was elected to serve as the PDGA Hawaii state coordinator at one time.

So what is the deal? Is this just some crazy disc golfer, or is there more to the story than meets the eye? I'm not looking to bash anyone, just genuinely curious as to the story that has this guy all fired up.
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How a person presents themselves is usually a pretty good "read" into their character.
 
Aim For The Chains said:
Seriously its a native Hawaiian thing...
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Pretty sure Bobby isn't native.

I played a round with a local that has been dealing with Bobby for quite a few years. He basically just said he's crazy and most everyone else tries to steer clear of him. It's just unfortunate that he's one of, if not the, loudest voice coming out of the islands.

New013 said:
Hawaii is 10% paradise / 90% volcanic death and slums. Nothing surprises me coming out of there.
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Closer to 50/50 from what I saw. :)
 
New013 said:
Hawaii is 10% paradise / 90% volcanic death and slums. Nothing surprises me coming out of there.
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So...does that make it 10% paradise, 45% volcanic death, and 45% slums?

Or is 90% of the island concurrently both volcanic death AND slums?

Because if the latter is true, I think we've discovered the best type of housing to build near volcanoes in the future.

Volcanic death and condos?! Utter ruin.

Volcanic death and slums?! Just wait until the volcanic death subsides and return to your still standing slum!
 
I enjoyed Hawaii! It's a great place to vacation. Especially if you are down there playing football with hundreds of other high school kids. Stories for another day I guess.

Op- that guy is bat s crazy. I love trying to read his posts though. Quite funny.
 
Jukeshoe said:
So...does that make it 10% paradise, 45% volcanic death, and 45% slums?

Or is 90% of the island concurrently both volcanic death AND slums?

Because if the latter is true, I think we've discovered the best type of housing to build near volcanoes in the future.

Volcanic death and condos?! Utter ruin.

Volcanic death and slums?! Just wait until the volcanic death subsides and return to your still standing slum!
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the trouble with volcanic death and slums is that they're shifty characters, it's hard to nail down exact percentages for each so i combined them for greater accuracy.
 
I went to Maui last year and played poli...or Napoli I think it was. Not much to it just a little city park 9 holer. Still was pretty nice to toss on the island. I haven't been to the other islands but I can say they do not have much of a DG scene there for some reason.
 
rch84 said:
I went to Maui last year and played poli...or Napoli I think it was. Not much to it just a little city park 9 holer. Still was pretty nice to toss on the island. I haven't been to the other islands but I can say they do not have much of a DG scene there for some reason.
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Napili Park, I went to Maui with the fam 2 summers ago and my dad and I each brought a disc with. Nothing fancy, but sure was sweet to get some throws in on the island.

erock216 said:
Lolfacebook. Deleted your account and live a better life.
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Can you actually delete your account? I know you can deactivate it, but can be reactivated at any time.
 
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