Buzzz vs. Wasp

[bjanego]

I, for some reason, am strictly an Innova thrower. I have nothing against Discraft, its just that when I learned to play, all my teachers threw innova, so I know what every disc does. Having said that, I am somewhat new to discraft plastic. Yesterday, on a whim, I bought a Wasp ESP, and after throwing the Buzzz, I think the wasp blows it out of the water....

any comments??

 

[Midnightbiker]

I, for some reason, am strictly an Innova thrower. I have nothing against Discraft, its just that when I learned to play, all my teachers threw innova, so I know what every disc does. Having said that, I am somewhat new to discraft plastic. Yesterday, on a whim, I bought a Wasp ESP, and after throwing the Buzzz, I think the wasp blows it out of the water....

any comments??

Your comparing apples to oranges. I carry both. The Buzz for straight mid shots,and the Wasp for overstable midrange shots.

Buzz- Stable Midrange

Wasp- Overstable Midrange.

 

[DiscJunkie]

The Wasp is good for hard throwers. It will hold a line in the wind better than the Buzzz.
Having said that, they are both great discs for what they do.

 

[Waddly Hobbins]

I use both the Buzzz and Wasp alot....they cover different shots for me though. I use the Buzzz for anhyzers or extremely straight shots/tunnel shots. I use the Wasp as a more reliable mid that I can really put some power behind with out worrying about a flip and can really predict where it can land.

For me, the Wasp is pure gold, does what I want it to do and does it well. The Buzzz, while I still love that disc too, I find that if I'm not careful it can travel to the right (rhbh) and not come back.


I see you bought the ESP Wasp, I hope it treats you well. I've put off buying the ESP Wasp myself because I've heard from multiple sources that it tends to be more flippy than the Z Wasp. The Z Wasp is great...but as it gets colder here in Minnesota, I find I want something that is more forgiving to my hand. Discraft has already said that they aren't planning on a FLX Wasp anytime soon.

 

[ovar]

where does the drone fit in with these disc?

 

[Waddly Hobbins]

where does the drone fit in with these disc?

Where the Wasp is father to the Buzzz. The Drone is more like slow, overweight, drunken uncle that hyzers off the road. Really though, Drone flies shorter than both those discs and has TONS of turn to it. Good disc, just doesn't fill the same shot selection as the Wasp/Buzzz.

 

[RogueT]

where does the drone fit in with these disc?

The drone is an awesome disc. Very very overstable, you can more than depend on its hard fade. This disc has taken strokes just having in my bag. Every single time ive thrown it, its done exactly what Ive wanted.

 

[Waddly Hobbins]

Every single time ive thrown it, its done exactly what Ive wanted.

It does exactly what I want it to do as well, provided I want it to go hard left.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

Your comparing apples to oranges. I carry both. The Buzz for straight mid shots,and the Wasp for overstable midrange shots.

Buzz- Stable Midrange (+.5)

Wasp- Overstable Midrange. (+1.5)

Bingo

Drone a very overstable mid (+2.5)
Comet and Hawk are tad less stable than Buzzz (0.0)
Meteor & Breeze are Discraft's most understable mids (-.05)

 

[RogueT]

It does exactly what I want it to do as well, provided I want it to go hard left.

Haha, very true. However, i do love this mid for windy days. I also just started using it and it has really tought me a lot about finding lines to the basket. I have only ever thrown a buzzz before, and the drone has opened my eyes in regards to line finding and shaping. Im using shots i would have never even considered, and given that sharp fade, you know your disc is going to come in hard, and from my experience, will sit nicely where it lands. Overall, may not come out of the bag to often, but when it does, it is an extremely dependable disc.

 

[Waddly Hobbins]

......will sit nicely where it lands.....

Unless you hit dirt or short grass, Drones are amazing skippers.

 

[Beable]

I recently picked up a Meteor and Wasp to round out my mids. So far I like em OK, but will probably continue to use my Buzzz for the vast majority of shots.

I'm hoping the Meteor becomes a good disc for anhyzer forehand approaches.

 

[RogueT]

Unless you hit dirt or short grass, Drones are amazing skippers.

Hmm. I dont really notice this. I really only use it on shots where i really want to emphasize a hyzer line. I generally throw the drone a little up on a hyzer so itll fade hard right to the landing point. I have not really noticed too many bad skips, but i really havent tried to either. I just got the disc and am still learning it. Now my QJLS will almost get up and start flyin again it skips so well.

 

[tbird888]

The Buzzz and Wasp are the same mold, except the Buzzz doesn't have the bead. It's weird how easily one is to throw if you're used to the other. You don't need a lot to make either of them float where you want them to go. The Wasp is less resistant to turning over, but not by much in my experience.

Throwing the Drone is an entirely different animal. You don't get the insane glide of the other two, but you get a more obedient flyer that's insanely accurate once you're used to throwing it.

 

[MotoDj]

Hmm. I dont really notice this. I really only use it on shots where i really want to emphasize a hyzer line. I generally throw the drone a little up on a hyzer so itll fade hard right to the landing point. I have not really noticed too many bad skips, but i really havent tried to either. I just got the disc and am still learning it. Now my QJLS will almost get up and start flyin again it skips so well.

if its a tall spike hyzer they wont skip
but if you throw low and fast it'll skip multiple times and be turning very sharply also, i use it to "boomerang" around trees on 3 tees, great get outta trouble disc

 

[Sjames88]

Buzzzzzzzzzz fo sho.....enough said

 

[cooktastic]

I just got a ESP Wasp and an elite Z Buzz (first Discraft discs). I like them both so far...still haven't played much with them yet...but so far I can throw the Wasp a little more accurately than the Buzz. Maybe that's just me.

 

[adam423]

Just wondering...

Buzzz=Shark?
Drone=Roc?
Wasp=Gator?

 

[Waddly Hobbins]

Just wondering...

Buzzz=Shark?
Drone=Roc?
Wasp=Gator?

I don't throw Innova but from what I understand:

Buzzz- A Roc that has been beaten in that it flies straight
Wasp- Slightly more overstable version of Roc
Drone- Similar to Gator or a boomarang

 

[edward felcohands]

i buzzz is not to be trusted. anyone who says otherwise is a dirty gypsy. a wasp, however, is dependable and can be trusted to behave the same way all the time.