[Innova] Break in period

[joecoin]

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If you have a specific mold in mind, it might be good to post which, and how you want it to fly. That would get you some replies about molds that may fly that way "off the shelf."

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

 

[kenjiac]

Buy used.

^^^ THIS

 

[Reniger]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

A CD2 will be a little faster, but fly very similar to lightweight DX Teebirds. A Star Eagle will have a little stronger fade, but again is another dead straight to slight turn fairway that will perform very well in premium plastic. While not quite as consistent in manufacturing runs, I also really love a Prodigy 400S F5 in this slot. Gentle turn, reliable fade, plenty of glide, and very comfortable grip.

Personally, I prefer the CD2 by a landslide.

 

[SD86]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

My DX Teebird isn't too lightweight, but it seasoned in quickly to fly like these:

The TL (Star or Champ)
The River (Gold Line or Opto)
The Patriot (Icon)
The FD (S-Line or C-Line)

 

[Reniger]

My DX Teebird isn't too lightweight, but it seasoned in quickly to fly like these:

The TL (Star or Champ)
The River (Gold Line or Opto)
The Patriot (Icon)
The FD (S-Line or C-Line)

Love the FD, however, not throwing lightweight Teebirds, I was thinking the FD would be a little more understable. However, I could be dead wrong! I do love the FD for it's phenomenal control and incredible glide, but I usually have to give it some hyzer and flip it to get a straight line and it doesn't fade like I'm used to from Teebirds. Again, haven't thrown a TB lighter than 170g, though.

Joe, if you don't have an FD, it's most definitely worth checking one out. Crazy great disc! G-line for understable (my roller disc) S-Line for super straight lasers, C-Line or Metalflake if you can get your hands on it for lasers with a slightly stronger fade in the finish.

 

[ilmcgee]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

Mid weight champ leo

 

[runningDoc]

in 2016 i pared down my bag to 8molds.

two are utility discs, champ faf firebird and flat champ gator, which don't require seasoning. another mold my 3rd run c PD i also don't cycle (very durable).

my other 5 molds i started buying multiple backups and cycling through them to have a stable of ready to go discs.

example i bought a bunch (5) of factory second star destroyers and waited for the black friday sales last year to buy multiples of my putters and rocs. from there i would number and use a specific roc or destroyer for a week then swap it out with a new one then swap it out again.

it was easier with KC pro rocs and a pain with my star destroyers but all in all it was worth the time/money investment to have that stable of ready to go discs that i knew inside and out.

so with my 5 molds and 25 discs that i bought this year specifically for cycling i ended up not needing to try out new molds. i'd go through some PIAS/local bins and luckily found some well seasoned molds that i use.

all in all after march hit i didn't buy any new discs. once you get a good cycle going it's pretty cheap having to only add a new disc to the cycle maybe every 6months.

i did learn that some discs cycle too fast (current echo star destroyers). so i dropped that disc and will go with g star destroyers in that slot.

i have a bin in my car that has 2-3 backups of my cycling discs. and all the rest i keep at home and swap out everything once a month. it's convenient and comforting having so many money/cycled/trusted discs ready to go

 

[Toro71]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

If you're not GYROphobic, you could give the Crave a shot.

 

[Bardu]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

I'd say a Gstar or EchoStar TeeBird would be reasonably close.

 

[The Last DJ]

I would put in a vote for getting the same mold in G* plastic. It feels similar to Star but a little more gummy. Typically the molds are less stable than other plastic blends...plus, G* is GREAT for the winter months. Another option is getting discs that are lighter than the ones you currently own. That might save you some time so that you avoid breaking in discs over time.

 

[wims]

my gstar teebird has more hss than my champion teebird so there's that

 

[ru4por]

Personally, I'm of the same mind. I prefer fresh, new plastic that flies how I want it. I've been in the "seasoning" camp before, and when you lose that DX Roc or Eagle that was perfect, then have to try to either artificially break it in or wait... well, it sucks. I prefer Star plastic that will season slowly, but hold the flight for a good long while and use different molds for different shots. Plenty of people disagree on this, but hey, use what works for your game.

No, you're not naive, nor alone. While some like to beat in discs and have the same mold fly different ways, i am not one of those. Except for my putting putters, I prefer discs in premium plastic that do NOT change or change very slowly over time. I bag discs that fly like they're "supposed to" (per the flight numbers) fresh out of the box.

Star plastic does take a long time to break-in/wear-in/season-in/beat-in. Gold Line plastic seasons in a bit faster but finds a place to be and holds that. Opto beats in slower but it does beat in. Speaking only for myself, I have never beaten in a Champion disc (and it hasn't been for two years of trying). So yes, slow break-in periods can be a fact of life, and can be a good thing.

Agree with the above. With the tons of molds available, I enjoy the predictability of a new disc. If I want a disc that flies like a seasoned disc, I will find one that does that new. Like the above, I understand many don't agree.

 

[DiscGolfMaster]

Get gstar discs that fly the way you want off the shelf. They take forever to season in, at least for me. I've been using the same gstar sidewinder for over 8 months and it still flies the same for me as far as I can tell, and looks great.

It takes too long for discs to season in for me. I end up losing them before they season most of the time.

 

[gemini55]

While I'm not the OP, I do want to know; what disk in a premium plastic will fly like an off the shelf low weight DX Tbird?

Mid weight champ leo

this was the first thing that came to mind as well

 

[Kodachrome]

Seasoning premium plastic significantly sucks, so I keep premium as well as midgrade plastics that can be beaten in somewhat quickly. A pseudo-cycle if you will.

Otherwise, yes. Fact of life. Try to hunt the freaks if you can that might start out more overstable or understable than usual to make life easier.

 

[the1discChallenge]

I'm really impatient when it comes to breaking in plastic. That being said, I've had a couple molds that I've had in my bag for over a year, and they're getting broken in to perfection. When I get a replacement for them, they'll just continue the cycling trend.

That being said, I never rely on beating in a disc for a flight. If I want an understable driver, I'd rather buy an understable disc rather than beating in a stable-overstable one.

 

[World Eater]

Seasoning premium plastic significantly sucks, so I keep premium as well as midgrade plastics that can be beaten in somewhat quickly. A pseudo-cycle if you will.

Otherwise, yes. Fact of life. Try to hunt the freaks if you can that might start out more overstable or understable than usual to make life easier.

The semi-premium (Trilogy Recycled) works for me with Giants and Felons, but did not work out for me with the Saint. That disc just got unpredictable too quickly.

Its takes a lot of throwing to season premium, but oh man is it worth it. I've got a light weight Opto Saint that shows a nice, predictable progressive turnover and stays turned now. It has held its current stability most of this year and is a sick turnover machine.

 

[Twmccoy]

I throw premium plastic because I want the discs to last a long time and not change much over time. That said, I think trying to season a champion or Z disc is impossible. You're better off just finding a mold you like when the disc is new.

The courses I play don't beat up discs and it would take artificial measures to season a champion disc enough to change the flight of it.

The main problem here is Innova. Lately they're molding everything way more stable than in years past. All their drivers lately are coming out beefy as hell.

 

[jskew113]

Wait 6 months and everyone will be complaining about the flippy Innova stuff. It all comes in cycles. Last year people were complaining that the (g)Star Destros were flippy. Then the McBeth runs came out OS.

What Koda mentioned works for my game as well. I like one or two version of a mold in premium plastic to slowly season, and one or two in mid or base plastic to beat up relatively quick. If I loose something I can mix plastic/ weight and find something off the shelf if I don't already have a backup.

 

[ILUVSMGS18]

Base-line and Mid-grade plaatics usually seasons too quickly on the wooded courses near me so it is financially pointless to try to cycle anything less than Star/Champ. G* is too floppy for my FH.