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Paul is done for 2019

In 2017 I sprained my ankle in an odd way on the 3rd hole of a 42 hole 1 day tournament. I finished without making it worse. I didn't play great and could have walked off, but I didn't because it was relatively safe and I was there to compete. Anecdotal? yes - but I'm sure lots of people have done the same thing.

It's possible for him too, right? Especially since he didnt hurt it on a driving motion, he may not have had pain when he was throwing, maybe only when putting. I don't need to speculate, and it's not as if Paul has a history of getting hurt and dropping tournaments. It's happened but not like it's a normal occurrence.

^^This. Athletes play hurt all the time if it isnt debilitating. No man wants to be "soft". I come home all the time with serious back pain, or a muscle tweak, etc, but I dont call off work and I sure dont miss a round of golf, and I'm not getting paid to do it.
 
I can't fault athletes that okay through the pain. I can't fault athletes who don't. Most athletes know what they can/can't play through.

After USDGC, I'm pretty sure he has a damned good idea of how this injury is (and isn't) affecting his game. He hasn't had a performance like that is... hell if I know. But that performance wasn't remotely reflective of his typical showing.

I don't see the point in him "toughing it out" simply to turn in another lackluster performance where he basically isn't competing anywhere near the level he's normally capable of... just to say "he played."

If there's any chance playing might delay or prolong his recovery, then he's smart to shut it down. The sooner he gets back to form, the better off the Pro Tour will be.
 
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He apparently re-injured it on a circle's edge putt on the very first hole of the tournament. Not really sure how playing 4 more rounds on a long course that requires a lot of full power drives "active rest." Maybe walking a couple miles the next few days would count as "active rest."
Two different ways of moving the ankle. You and I can't know without knowing his exact injury.
 
Kinda surprised he didn't just drop out of it was bothering him that badly. Certainly playing the whole USDGC didn't help his ankle injury any.

You should have seen the gallery following both his card, and Paige Pierce's, on the final day. Bigger than some lead card NT galleries. It was pretty impressive.
 
I am one of those people who think Paul is obviously, painfully obviously, better than Climo ever was...

I still think he played awful and made an excuse after the fact. At no point anywhere did he indicate he was injured. No limp, no wincing, no ankle brace. Just bad throws. Not even great putting by his standard. I sort of have to call BS on the injury.

My opinion is he got in a funk, didn't think he would play well for the next event or two, decided to protect his 1060.
 
You know ratings from usdgc don't count right?

Yes I do. I was refering to his getting in a funk and not feeling like he could play well the next event or two.

If I thought USDGC counted my statement wouldn't have made any sense.
 
It's weak to play it out knowing you are hurt, finish terribly, and then make a post about how you injured yourself on the first hole.

The timing of his post claiming injury and ending his season is what seemed weak to me. It seemed geared toward creating drama to keep more attention for himself. The classy thing to do after losing so badly would be to lay low for a week or two and let this year's champion James Conrad get the attention he is due.
 
The timing of his post claiming injury and ending his season is what seemed weak to me. It seemed geared toward creating drama to keep more attention for himself. The classy thing to do after losing so badly would be to lay low for a week or two and let this year's champion James Conrad get the attention he is due.

That is pretty much what I was saying, but apparently since I haven't won a disc golf world championship I was dumped on
 
The timing of his post claiming injury and ending his season is what seemed weak to me. It seemed geared toward creating drama to keep more attention for himself. The classy thing to do after losing so badly would be to lay low for a week or two and let this year's champion James Conrad get the attention he is due.

How does one lay low for a week or two when the next week or two are filled with two significant tournaments? Merely the news that he's withdrawing from those is going to garner him attention whether he wants it or not. So he got out ahead of it as best he could and made his post on Monday. Not Saturday night, not Sunday, but Monday night.

Seems to me he gave it 48 hours so as to not step on Conrad's spotlight and did it early enough in the week that it would be a well beaten horse and old news by the time the HOFC got rolling. I'm not sure what else he could do. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
 
How does one lay low for a week or two when the next week or two are filled with two significant tournaments? Merely the news that he's withdrawing from those is going to garner him attention whether he wants it or not. So he got out ahead of it as best he could and made his post on Monday. Not Saturday night, not Sunday, but Monday night.

Seems to me he gave it 48 hours so as to not step on Conrad's spotlight and did it early enough in the week that it would be a well beaten horse and old news by the time the HOFC got rolling. I'm not sure what else he could do. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

I think if was really concerned about JC's spotlight he would have remembered to congratulate him in the post. I'm still going with my theory that he played awful and made an excuse. His timing makes no sense. If he couldn't compete he should have just dropped out. He never gave any indication of an injury throughout the tournament other than playing badly.
 
I think if was really concerned about JC's spotlight he would have remembered to congratulate him in the post. I'm still going with my theory that he played awful and made an excuse. His timing makes no sense. If he couldn't compete he should have just dropped out. He never gave any indication of an injury throughout the tournament other than playing badly.

He literally shook the man's hand and congratulated him in the scoring trailer after the final hole was complete. Did he really need to bring James' name into a post that had nothing to do with him?

Whatever. Believe your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories if that's what entertains you.
 
I think if was really concerned about JC's spotlight he would have remembered to congratulate him in the post. I'm still going with my theory that he played awful and made an excuse. His timing makes no sense. If he couldn't compete he should have just dropped out. He never gave any indication of an injury throughout the tournament other than playing badly.

Still a better theory than Innova/the Duvalls designed the USDGC course to penalize Paul for going to Discraft.
 
Yes I do. I was refering to his getting in a funk and not feeling like he could play well the next event or two.

If I thought USDGC counted my statement wouldn't have made any sense.

Your statement still doesn't make sense. Getting in a funk and afraid of hurting his rating? That is a weak mind and I guess a few people are taking one instance and going with that idea.

The guy AVERAGES round ratings beyond reach of 99% of disc golfers on their best day with lucky breaks.

Questioning anything about his performance is pretty Busch league. Thinking there has to be a wince or limp or something obvious that has an effect on play shows a complete lack of understanding of competing at a pretty high level in ANY sport. Holy crap limping and complaining and wincing is what a weak player does making excuses every hole.

As Jamie said the gallery following him was as big as an NT lead card. He was simply addressing them. Saying thank you for the support and he's not going to be around.

**** sakes. Nod smile and move on.
 
I can't help but think the people who are saying he should've dropped out have never played highly competitive sports. ...or maybe just never played hockey. A hockey player will play through almost anything if they can - look at Chara in last year's cup final...

And the person who said, "you don't get to #1 without being obsessively dedicated" hit the nail on the head.

In terms of the 2 remaining events, I doubt Paul is scared of anything. He is the #1 in the world. He can certainly bounce back from a bad performance. If anything, I'd think he's dealing with burnout. He's had a full year, with lots of travel. He's also been more involved in the business side of the game, which is probably mental exhausting for an athlete.

I guess what I'm saying is, he got hurt, didn't cash, announced injury, and didn't mention Conrad at the time... BFD?
 
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Exactly! Same for congratulating JC; someone would complain that it was a spoiler. And then there's a conspiracy theory that he's deliberately spoiling the results of an Innova tournament!! **gasp!**

And it's even more petty to baselessly speculate that Paul's making up an injury to excuse poor play at USDGC, or "get out of" playing the remaining events of 2019. It's impossible to prove one way or the other (barring the release of actual medical data) so really floating that theory only demonstrates the poster's desire to throw shade, and lack of any factual basis to do so.

More importantly: McBeth has proven time and again that he's an absolutely fierce competitor. I think that if he was in condition to contend for the HOFC, he would 100% be chomping at the bit to get out there and continue one of the winningest years of his career. Especially to move on from a disappointing result at a Major.
 
I think if was really concerned about JC's spotlight he would have remembered to congratulate him in the post. I'm still going with my theory that he played awful and made an excuse. His timing makes no sense. If he couldn't compete he should have just dropped out. He never gave any indication of an injury throughout the tournament other than playing badly.
I worked for this lady who used to come barging into my office and yell at me after I would send an email, and the reason she was yelling at me was always because of what she thought I was really trying to imply or manipulate or whatever with what I wrote. It was never about anything I directly wrote in an email. She was always reading a bunch of stuff into what I wrote and then getting mad over what she imagined I was doing. I was always floored by all the crazy stuff she could imagine was going on. She didn't last long; she crashed and burned after she imagined that everyone who sent her an email was plotting against her.

tl;dr: Sometimes people actually tell the truth. :|
 

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