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How about Difficult as in "SSA - Par per 100 ft"?Difficult as in takes a lot of strokes (really not difficulty imo) or difficult as in high strokes per foot (true difficulty imo)?
My vote goes to 1 at Inverness, Hoover AL, Long-Long.
also a top contender for a thread of "worst 1st hole for a great course"The 1033' #1 on the Big Brother course at Justin Trails in Sparta, WI. It's mostly a narrow corridor through the middle of a corn field which can be miserable about this time of year when the corn is at full height.
you misunderstood the thread its all about hole 1 not hole 6
I suggested alternative designs for 1 & 2 in the early 2000s, but I think it's still there based on UDisc layouts.also a top contender for a thread of "worst 1st hole for a great course"
Yep. It's still 1000'+ of fairly narrow fairway with farm field on one side and prairie grass on the other. Seems like the only reason to design it that way is to get you from point A (near the main cluster of buildings) to point B (the more interesting parts of the property). Like elmex said, it's a lousy way to start a great course.I suggested alternative designs for 1 & 2 in the early 2000s, but I think it's still there based on UDisc layouts.
The owners are the ones who asked me to suggest design tweaks but the original designer (basket provider) either didn't like the recommendations or wanted to retain "designership" of the course. My suggestion was for hole 1 to tee from about the same spot and angle towards or even tuck into woods if possible as a par 3. Hole 2 would continue along the woods line then dogleg right to the existing #2 basket. Seemed like a less brutal hole 1 then hole 2's a more interesting par 4 or 5 depending on how far back or forward the tee was located to need just one or two good throws to the dogleg corner.Yep. It's still 1000'+ of fairly narrow fairway with farm field on one side and prairie grass on the other. Seems like the only reason to design it that way is to get you from point A (near the main cluster of buildings) to point B (the more interesting parts of the property). Like elmex said, it's a lousy way to start a great course.
The lady who owns the place is very proud of what they have built there. Approached the right way, I would think she might be receptive to changes. Especially because any of the b&b guests who aren't already dg'ers are likely to quit before they finish that hole. Beginners have no business on big brother period, but that hole is especially terrible for someone who can't throw far and in a consistent direction.
I like your idea just fine, but it seems similar enough that I understand why the OG designer opted to keep his precious the same. Hole 2 is a pretty fun hole as it is, and while Hole 1 leaves something to be desired, it generates discussion which increases visibility.The owners are the ones who asked me to suggest design tweaks but the original designer (basket provider) either didn't like the recommendations or wanted to retain "designership" of the course. My suggestion was for hole 1 to tee from about the same spot and angle towards or even tuck into woods if possible as a par 3. Hole 2 would continue along the woods line then dogleg right to the existing #2 basket. Seemed like a less brutal hole 1 then hole 2's a more interesting par 4 or 5 depending on how far back or forward the tee was located to need just one or two good throws to the dogleg corner.