[MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Part VI)

[ThrowaEnvy]

If you want straight low effort glide putts, you need to be tossing that spin when you get in circle 2. =)

That's actually where the glitch comes in, it's kind of taken the spin spot, if im worried about not reaching it with an electron envy then I glitch it. I do like the proton spin for tonals and a turrnover approach, a nice easy little hyzer putt and it flies straight. It does drop height a bit on me if it's not on a firm hyzer putt. The glitch holds the height effortlessly without traveling too fast or far past the basket... a soft Longshot at a 2 for a 3 always beats an aggressive 4.

Kinda depends, if I've been doing my putting practice 40' i will be 70%± otherwise 25-30' is my range.

The envy works good for me with the stability, it runs out of juice, flips the nose up as it fades and keeps its height for an extra 3 or 4ft before it hyzers out... and leaves me within 20'. I get the feeling I putt nose down with a touch of anhyzer...

 

[Sheep]

That's actually where the glitch comes in, it's kind of taken the spin spot, if im worried about not reaching it with an electron envy then I glitch it. I do like the proton spin for tonals and a turrnover approach, a nice easy little hyzer putt and it flies straight. It does drop height a bit on me if it's not on a firm hyzer putt. The glitch holds the height effortlessly without traveling too fast past the basket.

my problem with the Glitch came down to flubbing putts with my putting style, lighter putters pop out really late.

The goal to change putters, which.. I'm not sure why this isn't a more adopted method, but when you get at a certian range, you switch to understable high glide, and... then you get an extra 10-15 feet without having to PUMP on the putter.

I can see this being somethign really easy for a lot of people and a glitch for sure.
But with having more of a spin putt.. My putts really similiar to simons, just we stand insanely different. But flight and pop wise, the same. So when you try and pop a glitch like that, it likes to come out late, i can't get it out of my hand as easy.

Which is a shame too, cause i have these beautiful ohm prototypes that are 150 class that... i can't use.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

I wondered about those light ohms, I was tempted but I think there's a loss of gyro effect, certainly see it with the 155 envy. And then there's the wind thing... that said though I have been astounded by how mediocre the glitch has been to me in light wind, I expected way worse. Lots of up and down elevator action but still a straight flight. It really is a zero turn disc (or -0.25). It's going to be interesting to see what the pixel is all about, I plan on not liking it based on the shape...

 

[discerdoo]

It's going to be interesting to see what the pixel is all about, I plan on not liking it based on the shape...

If it's a gyro P2, I have zero interest. P2 was as deep as a soup bowl. And I still have zero use for a Glitch.

How long am I gonna hafta wait for a stock Detour? Threw one again Sunday and I want one.

 

[uncle pennybags]

I never used my Glitch for putts, only drives and upshots.

So when I got the Watt because its "a full weight Glitch" I wasn't impressed. In my limited side x side tosses the Glitch was always easier to place. I should see if the Watt can be my high wind Glitch, because that's where the things get....interesting throwing a light putter long distances.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

If it's a gyro P2, I have zero interest. P2 was as deep as a soup bowl. And I still have zero use for a Glitch.

How long am I gonna hafta wait for a stock Detour? Threw one again Sunday and I want one.

Yeah I'm pretty interested in that detour, and certainly seems like a slot I could use. What is it that makes it so awesome?

I don't blame people for hating on the glitch. I enjoy lightweight and tricky discs, I also play in very low wind conditions respectively. The glitch just brings me joy, as long as I don't throw it on stupid holes trying to do things I could do better with a different disc because I think I'm hot s***

 

[discerdoo]

Yeah I'm pretty interested in that detour, and certainly seems like a slot I could use. What is it that makes it so awesome?

Don't tell the Comet crew but it seems to fly like a nicely seasoned Comet off the shelf and feels better in the hand.

Guess I'll find out soon since I just overpaid for one on fleabay.

 

[Sheep]

If it's a gyro P2, I have zero interest. P2 was as deep as a soup bowl. And I still have zero use for a Glitch.

How long am I gonna hafta wait for a stock Detour? Threw one again Sunday and I want one.

I doubt it.

From what I can tell looking at it, its a straight walled ion.

Why would simon want another p2? He was already putting better with anodes.

 

[Sheep]

Yeah I'm pretty interested in that detour, and certainly seems like a slot I could use. What is it that makes it so awesome?

It's just a power controlled turnover disc. You can hammer it on hyzer and it goes, or hit it flat and it turns but doesn't burn.

Though, I did throw it forehand for the first time today. lawl. that didn't go well.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

I'm into a straight wall ion!! I got one back from a buddy when he moved, I tried to love the ion again but the only round rim I'll throw is still the spin.

Yeah the uplink in neutron is a mighty turnover disc... perhaps the mightiest ever invented. Touch on ROIDSs!!!

A neutron soft uplink is busted in x comet, butter. If a detour is a seasoned comet kind of flight and between an uplink and hex it's going to be redundant and truly wonderful. Solid lineup with enough variation to stuff a bag with fresh discs and make it happen.

Closing the gaps my friends. The next step will be redundancy, but we've got a solid 15yrs of innovation so far.

I hope they get real weird out of boredom, maybe re-deploy some Switch technology....

 

[Sheep]

A neutron soft uplink is busted in x comet, butter. If a detour is a seasoned comet kind of flight and between an uplink and hex it's going to be redundant and truly wonderful. Solid lineup with enough variation to stuff a bag with fresh discs and make it happen.

Thinking really hard on this one here, cause Devon throws a beat in comet, but its also like 30 years old. And... I'd not quite say "beat in comet"
But..
Hmm.

So, uplink, paradox, theory, vertex, hex... Those are all "mid" style mids.

Reactor, detour, matrix and such. I consider those "fairway" style mids.

It's like buying the F150, but you got the Coyote motor in it for no reason vs the standard reliable motor. It can handle the ponies.

So, I don't wanna say the detour is uplink flippy. I don't think it is. I'll say it's probably going to be more flippy than you think it is, but because it's designed as a fairway style mid, you can treat it like a fairway, but also throw it like a mid.

The biggest problem I have with the detour is this.
If you mean to throw it out as a soft turnover and let it do its thing.
You HAVE to hit it flat on the throw.

If you give it any bit of slight hyzer, it probably will just go straight. I probably dont throw much over 60mph.
But I've not been able to overspeed it either. The onyl time I get bad flights out of it is when I do something really really dumb in the throw trying to push it. And it will punish you. Which is good, cause it doesn't cover up you screw up, it lets you know.

 

[RowingBoats]

To me the simplest way to describe it is still...that if you have a Hex/Detour/Uplink, relatively, they fly exactly how the numbers say they should. And they do it out of the box in neutron plastic.

I know Im an MVP stan but for real there is something different about their mids. The only thing close to an Uplink brand new that I have tried was a Sol, and its inferior still. Yes, it is probably squirrely due to me doing something dumb, but the Uplink has some kind of anti-burn over magic.

 

[ILUVSMGS18]

So the Detour is more like a Buzzz SS from what I've thrown of it than a Comet...it's similar in flight characteristics but it doesn't like height unlike the Comet which thrives when given height on a throw.

 

[RowingBoats]

Man, this beauty was in the used bin at PIAS today.

 

[RowingBoats]

So the Detour is more like a Buzzz SS from what I've thrown of it than a Comet...it's similar in flight characteristics but it doesn't like height unlike the Comet which thrives when given height on a throw.

I don't really commonly throw my mids super high, but I don't think there is anything particular about the detour that doesn't 'like' being thrown high.

I never liked any of the Buzz discs, and in comparison to the MVP mids, I absolutely hate them. They feel gnarly (but not as gnarly as a comet, which remains the only disc I ever picked up and actually was genuinely disturbed by the hand feel), and they just don't glide like the MVP mids do.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

I think the general issue with throwing MVP discs high is that they don't particularly like nose up, so you need something that is relatively flippy.

You know I hadn't really thought about it, I guess the MVP mid-ranges really/probably stand out (against other companies) with the amount of glide they have now as opposed to before when they were just a little bit better than a putter

 

[lee76007]

I think the general issue with throwing MVP discs high is that they don't particularly like nose up, so you need something that is relatively flippy.

You know I hadn't really thought about it, I guess the MVP mid-ranges really/probably stand out (against other companies) with the amount of glide they have now as opposed to before when they were just a little bit better than a putter

I've had my Neutron Signal 162g for almost 3 months. I've learned get it up there and it will fly! On a turn flip. Further than 7 thru 9 speeds and just short of the Orbital. Decent distance into a headwind capped at 10 mph, getting it up. If I could just find an 18 hole dogleg left course . It's become a favorite to throw.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Waiting to find out is killing me...

 

[RowingBoats]

Waiting to find out is killing me...

Whats this one?

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Whats this one?

It says rhythm on the rim... its either a misprint or the find of the year.... maybe today.... it's almost 2 weeks