[Innova] Innova Vs. Discraft

[sloppydisc]

Right now, I'll agree. I made a pact to keep everything in my bag under speed 7, and only Innova helps me do that

Latitude 64 - Core, Fuse, Sinus, Spike, Pure

MVP - Ion

Give some of them a try. I live and die with my Core, Ion and Fuse right now. I throw a Cro or Wasp for certain shots, but those three are my horses, and make or break me.

 

[bikinjack]

TRY A LAT 64 HALO, OR A DISCRAFT NUKE. HEY IF YOU CAN HIT 400' THATS COOL BUT CAN YOU CONTROL YOUR DISC? I PLAY IN CA AND I HAVE NEVER HAD TO HIT 400' ON MY DRIVE. DO YOU WANT TO BUT PLASTIC DOWN FIELD OR PUT IT NEXT TO CHAINS?.HEY UNTIL YOU GET IT IN YOUR HAND WHO KNOWS. IF YOU WANT OVERSTABLE GO DISCRAFT CRUSH .

Is it Friday where you are? Cruise control?

 

[leppard]

Mostly Innova because that is what I started with.

 

[Chiefklondog]

Hey thanks, I will try some of those out. And ya at 400+ my control starts to go down a fair bit, but at 400-360 ish range I have been able to get my discs to follow the paths I want and land within easy putting range of the baskets. ....Now if only i was good at putting... haha

 

[JoeBen13]

elite buzzz

I use everything Innova, except for the exception of the Elite Z Buzzz. I just like the feel of it a lot more than the Roc. but other than that, I just prefer Innova mainly because I trust their rating sytem a little better and I Love Star plastic, its just so durable. Plus, they have the Wraith!

Absolutely agree with the elite Z buzz everything I throw is innova minus my buzzz. But I like the way the buzz feels compared to the rocs or the spider which I've thrown since I've started. But nothing beats innovas boss or Vulcan or even the Karamazov when it comes down to it. Plus innova makes some of the best plastics out there.

 

[Jtrain]

I like to throw innova for distance drivers but mid rangers i love my Buzzz Z and for putter is Innova Aviar I guess I like innova

 

[Mike C]

Only mold from either company permanently in my bag is a Predator unless you want to count the Millennium stuff.

 

[pspunch]

my bag right now
9 innova, 6 discraft, 4 mvp, 1 gateway

 

[simpletwist]

Ford - Chevy; Coke - Pepsi; Innova - Discraft...

I like discs from both. Right now there is more Discraft in my bag than Innova. The only reason is that I tried the disc & liked it so I use it. The manufacturer is immaterial.

Here's how it goes for me. I got a Discraft misprint deal a while back. I got an Ace Race Meteor. I liked the way it felt and flew. It quickly replaced the Champ Coyote because I was more consistent throwing it. I lost the Ace Race Meteor and replaced it with an ESP Meteor and it was just as true as the Ace Race disc. Then about 6 months ago I found a well seasoned Champ Panther. I threw it and I liked it. A LOT! Hated to give it up, but being the nice guy that I am I called the owner and gave it back. So about a month ago I had an offer for a trade of my Star Beast for a Champ Panther. I jumped on the deal. So now my Meteor is sitting on the bench while I put the Panther in the game. No they aren't exactly the same, the Meteor seems to have a bit more glide which sometimes meant I over threw it.

The point is I use what works for me.

 

[SirRaph]

I used to go out of my way to throw Discraft - just because I'm from Michigan and I wanted to support a company from the Murder Mitten. But as my bag matures and I begin to settle on molds that work best for me, my bag has slowly shifted to almost exclusively Innova.

I prefer Destroyers over Forces, Preds over Firebirds/Teebirds, RoadRunners over Avenger SS, Rocs over "the hive", Yetis over Challengers.

 

[Rocaholic74]

I have a mishmosh of a bag....I have Innova, Gateway, MVP, Discraft, and Lat 64.

1x MVP Ion
2x Gateway Wizards
4x Innova Rocs
1x Discraft Buzz
1x Innova Eagle L
1x Lat 64 River
1x Innova Valk
1x Innova Banshee
2x Innova Sidewinder

I don't have anything higher than a speed 9 in mmy bag..no need for it right now..And as the name suggests I love Rocs but just got a nice Z Buzzz (it's my first) and can really huck the hell out of that thing...man does that disc like to just glide ...But I'll never give up the Rocs...

 

[Apoth]

I tend to throw more Discraft than Innova. Not that Innova doesn't make good discs, I just really prefer Z to Champ (strikes me as more durable) and the discs tend to be more consistent with DC (again, not perfect, but more consistent). I've thrown Destroyers and Wraiths and loved them (though I've come to prefer Nukes and Forces fro various reasons). Have always loved Teebirds and Eagles, and have recently had some affection with the Roc even though I absolutely love my Buzzzes.

Right now my bag has 8 molds. 6 Discraft, 1 Innova, 1 Gateway. Or, based on disc, 14 DC, 2 Gateway, 4 Innova.

 

[pzacch05]

my primary drivers are the avenger and avenger ss. i currently throw rocs but am thinking of going back to the buzzz. the only discs i have innova that have always been in my bag are the leopard and birdie but i guess i could exchange that for a rattler. whats a discraft version of the leopard? or does the buzzz pretty much just take that spot?

 

[steveo69]

whats a discraft version of the leopard? or does the buzzz pretty much just take that spot?

Xpress.

 

[craftsman]

I find the XL in elite x very leo like and much more usefull then a xpress.

 

[aarikc17]

The whole consistency thing is B.S.

I have to hand pick XLs, Trackers, and Surges just as much as Xcals, Teebirds, and Rocs

 

[simpletwist]

whats a discraft version of the leopard?

I wondered that same thing. And tried a bunch of different Discraft discs to see if one would compare to my Leo. The answer I came up with is that nothing from Discraft compares to the Leopard.

 

[rusch_bag]

IMO

Putters
Wash

Mids
Discraft (I throw rocs and I will admit that all around discrafts mids are better)

Fairway Drivers
Innova hands down

Distance Drivers
This one is close but I think Innova has the edge here as well.

Consistency
Discraft wins here. They at least try to use the same plastic from run to run. The different amount of star plastic that I own is kind of mind boggling. Each one feels like a different mix.

Durability
Wash.

Plastic feel
IMO Discraft

Overall
Wash in my book. Both have their positives and negatives, but nothing is enough to separate from the competition.

 

[smarkquart]

I will throw this in for your consideration, debate, and scorn:

Plastic comparison

DX v Pro D - DX just seems harder and more damage resistant which is a plus in all discs besides a few putters that may fly better with Pro D style damage.

Pro v Elite X - Pros just seem faster while Xs seem to have better glide than their comparable molds in other plastics. This is nearly a toss up, but I like how the Pro feels more so than the X.

Champion v Elite Z - Champions have richer color but Z I think overall have better color selection. I think Z grips a little better and is more durable than Champion.

Star v ESP - I find Star far more durable than ESP with exceptions like the ESP Pulse, which is nearly indestructible for some reason. I also like the grip of Star considerably more than ESP. However, at least in mids, ESP seems to have more glide than Star.

Non-comparible plastics - Innova has the R-Pro and Echo Star while Discraft has FLX. For what they are intended I think Innova has this category due to the Echo Star. That particular plastic is a great compromise between Star and Pro. For the most part FLX's job of being durable far outweighs R-Pro's job of being grippy. Otherwise, it really is hard to compare discs in these plastics unless you look just at what they are intended to do.


Innova Putters v Discraft Putters - I give this category to Discraft because of how many operable putters they have. Innova may have the several versions of Aviars, but the same is true of Magnets. Discraft just has more of a selection.

Innova Midrange v Discraft Midrange - I give Discraft another nod and mainly again to selection. They have the Buzzz, the Buzzz SS, Meteor, Wasp, Hornet, and Drone. This is quite a formniable lineup. While the Roc is definitely no slouch, at best it can be paired with a Mako and Shark. Innova obviously has other mids, but I think Discraft just has a higher average quality of mids.

Innova Drivers v Discraft Drivers - To keep this short I lumped Fairway and Distance drivers together. Innova has a huge advantage in Fairways; Teebirds, TLs, Leopards, and so on comparable to Discraft's big two of Cyclones and Stalkers. XS and XL are definitely nice discs, do not get me wrong, but their inconsistencies between plastics is far greater than the inconsistencies between those in Innova's lineup. I think Discraft's Nuke lineup definitely brings them back into the driver conversation as Innova can only answer with the Boss, Katana, and Ape, but if you throw in there the XCaliber, Wraith, Orc, TeeDevil, Valkyrie, and Destroyer, they cover far more stability ground than the Crush, Force, Surge, and Surge SS.


Basically both companies are great, and unless you are a sponsored player who has spent a great deal of time learning specific discs and breaking them in to your ideal stability and style, a mixed bag definitely seems best.

 

[Apoth]

The whole consistency thing is B.S.

I have to hand pick XLs, Trackers, and Surges just as much as Xcals, Teebirds, and Rocs

The experience I have with the DC stuff I've tried to buy has been a lot different than my Innova experiences. Not saying DC is perfect, just more consistent overall. I've gone through stacks of nukes and forces looking for ones with higher or lower PLH or more or less dome and found them all to be identical. With that being said, I do occasionally get a disc that varies from the standard (like my super domey Glo Buzzz...looks almost like a drone) but more often they're close. With a lot of Innova, I've had to search and handpick. Especially with my favorite Innova driver, the destroyer. There's a lot of variation in that mold (both intentional and not).