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I don't know how widespread the use of adding "AF" to adjectives was in early 2013 when FAF discs started showing up (iirc). At the time some retailers were selling them as Flat/Firm. I have some '13 LV GCC FAF Teebirds that are definitely the stiffest discs I own. They remind me of Gateway G9...
My main bag is mostly Innova with a few discs from other brands that go in and out. I also have an all RDG/Faction bag and an all Legacy Bag. I guess I need more bags to put all these other discs in.
I'm already nuts so no harm there.
You can see there is a variety of plastic types and shades of orange. Some even peach or salmon maybe - sometimes gotta stretch the color a little if you wanna make a one-color bag doable.
Seriously though, this is my regular bag and I KNOW each of these discs...
looks like jolly launcher type champ/c-line
the two orange luster p2s i have, and all the lusters I have seen, are more opaque (like the pfn pearly stuff was) than the disc at 10:10
I have only seen "4-point" mentioned when speaking about old buzzzes/wasps (can't remember which of the two right now). Still can't figure out what makes the disc "four-point" tho. Hopefully, a discraft collector will step-in and enlighten us all.
I have to agree with scarpfish's Blue Valley recommendation (be careful - there are several course listings for Blue Valley in the area and you want the one at the middle school). It is really a great beginner course or fun for a quick round for a more experienced player. It's laid-out well and...