I feel stupid now, because obviously I was assuming the 2 meter rule was in play, when that was never stated in the question, knowing fill well that the 2 meter rule is not in effect, unless specificly stated. My thinking was that the height of the disc was only relevant, if the 2 meter rule was in effect. I actually don't think it's a bad question after all then, even though it is kind of a trick question.
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2013 Rules Changes
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Chuck Kennedy said:
Right, but you don't know whether the 2m rule is in effect. Incomplete information. Maybe it should also say that the TD did not declare the 2m rule in effect, then you can actually answer the question.
It's like asking an arithmetic question for kids: Peter spent 22 cents on candy, how much money does he have left?
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
It's unnecessary because 2m is only an option. You don't worry that a tree is a mando unless specified, right?
Chuck Kennedy said:
It is an option, which is very often invoked. Especially in these parts.
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
That's why it's a good "trick" question so your NorCal players understand the basic rule, not just the option they're familiar with.
Chuck Kennedy said:
We still have to know whether or not the 2m rule has been invoked, in order to answer the question. Or at least an indication that the question would at least be kind enough to state that the 2m rule is in effect, if it were, indeed, in effect.
Simeon1
Newbie
Here are more unclear cases. You are welcome:
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
No, the mando is not completed in diagram 9.
Simeon1
Newbie
Chuck Kennedy said:
Thank you Chuck. Did you write that in a hurry?
Is this your rule?:" When a throw makes mando and returns later across the made Mando line OR the missed Mando line the mando must be made again". Please note that you have accepted case number 10.
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
Yes, case 10 is fine according to the rule. As long as the route of the disc stays continuously around the made mando side, crossing the missed mando line from the opposite direction does not matter. This has already been discussed in an earlier diagram like 10.
Simeon1
Newbie
So, this is the rule I should not teach any more:" Once the Mando has been made the Mando does not exist any more. If the disc does not return across the made Mando line. "?Chuck Kennedy said:
Cgkdisc
.:Hall of Fame Member:.
There really is no "made mando" line that means anything any more because your disc flight routes must remain around the "made" side of the mando until you have holed out regardless whether you crossed the "made mando" line once.
Star Shark
* Ace Member *
Any shot taken from behind the mando must make it on the proper side, even if that's been done on a previous shot.
Simeon1
Newbie
Than you Shark. There has been confusion if the Mando line is the line going around the world or just half of it. Like in diagram 10. How do you think of it?Star Shark said:
Star Shark
* Ace Member *
Simeon said:
For a single mando, I tend to think of it as an infinite line perpendicular to the layout of the hole. Another way to view it is that the line would be "no nearer to the basket" than the mando's location. Double mandos are easier to figure, obviously.
discraft
Par Member
Well said.Star Shark said:
We should rewrite the rules so everyone can unserstand. Offical Rules of Disc Golf for Newbies.
Simeon1
Newbie
Well, I still need clarification.Simeon said:
Is the second shot in diagram 10 taken from behind the Mando or behind the made Mando line or..? Is this route correct according to your thinking?
