The only recycled one I've got is a Spike, but it's a little grippier than any of my opto discs. I suppose with eco plastics the blend is likely to vary a bit from run to run. As for Fuses, I think your choice depends on what you want it to do. They can be nice turners and flippers, or they can be great super straight discs. I like other discs for straight, and I settled on the tourny Tursas for an awesome understable that rivals a Stingray, but with Fuses I was happiest with a 172 gold and a 170 opto...different flights, both great discs. I like the grip and feel of the gold a little better but in the heat and as they wear in (and with windex!) the opto feels pretty awesome after awhile, and definitely beats in slower and holds it's spot for longer. You might even check out a Flying Squirrel sometime...I don't have one anymore but those are pretty sweet.