Also, are the vultures really a bear in peed? Or do they turn?
I also am not familiar with the bodily functions of a bear but I have bagged PD's and Vultures.
I like the Vulture a lot but compared to just about any PD it definitely has some turn and has less fade and more glide. It's a good disc but it doesn't like headwinds and if anything I'd almost compare it to a seasoned Thunderbird. Fresh out of the box I'd say the Vulture flies like 9/5/-1/2 in calm conditions.