[Innova] new gator?

[BZoods]

and the whistles go woooo

Thank you for this.

But back to the topic at hand. The first and only Gator I've had is Beadless Star. I just can't deal with the beaded mold, and I don't think the Zone is similar enough to call it a sufficient replacement for a Gator. I throw both and feel that there's room in my bag for both.

I went to my local shop last week, and noticed that they had a beadless star Gator (weight was low, so I passed on it). I asked the owner about it because I know that they can be kind of hard to find, and he said that they get in beadless Gators every so often from Innova and that he'd put in a request on the next order for some in higher weights for me. He usually just drives up to Innova to pick up the order to save on shipping, so I should know before the middle of next week if the request was honored and Innova has some available. I'll report back here when I know what the deal is.

 

[emerica1842]

If you still can't get one, check out the cro, I believe it has a similar profile to the gator, but has a more rounded nose, and has a minute bead.

 

[Brodysseus]

Beadless Gator, huh? Is it just as overstable as a beaded Gator? If so, I'd be extremely interested in trying to find one. But I usually stay away from hard to find discs that will cost me more money and be inconvenient to replace... So what mid is in regular production that has overstability like a Gator, but no bead?

 

[BZoods]

If I'm unable to get another beadless Gator, I'm either going to be moving to Hornets, Drones, or making Zones work.

The Obex and Wasp are also supposedly close, too. But I have little experience with either of those. (And I believe Wasps are beaded, as well.)

 

[Brodysseus]

Obex has a bead. And I actually prefer the flight from an Obex compared to the Gator, just recently have been developing some distaste for beads, especially on non- putters.

 

[elnino]

If I'm unable to get another beadless Gator, I'm either going to be moving to Hornets, Drones, or making Zones work.

The Obex and Wasp are also supposedly close, too. But I have little experience with either of those. (And I believe Wasps are beaded, as well.)

i'll let mine go for any zish zone! i just like them better.

 

[EL-KABONG]

Pig bottom, pig bottom
you want mudflaps, beadless ain't got'um

 

[jpacetime]

I have beadless gators at my store. They are all about 169g

 

[g2avity]

Love the beadless Gator. I have a beadless Star and a CFR Champ Gator w/ a bead. For the most part they fly the same, different feel though. Beadless do skip quite a bit more. I prefer the beadless because of the way it feels in my hand.

 

[harr0140]

I have beadless gators at my store. They are all about 169g

Oh you are tempting me to get another backup . . . I already have 3 backups right now but they are all somewhat used. A nice new one might be in order since I came home with one from Florida last year for Aaron Q. He was soo pumped I brought that home for him. Does he know you have them??? If not make sure he does, he will buy one for sure too.

 

[harr0140]

Anyone else who has thrown an Obex and a Gator think they are vastly different? The Obex seems to actually turn right early on while the Gator never will do that unless into a headwind. InBounds disc flight chart has them as the same flight ratings as is the Zone.

Any thoughts?

 

[Brodysseus]

Anyone else who has thrown an Obex and a Gator think they are vastly different? The Obex seems to actually turn right early on while the Gator never will do that unless into a headwind. InBounds disc flight chart has them as the same flight ratings as is the Zone.

Any thoughts?

Gator is type 1 overstable, it fades right out of the hand. Obex is type 2 overstable, it goes straight for a good part of it's flight before fading. That being said, I have always felt that the Obex doesn't have as much high speed stability as most overstable molds. It doesn't handle itself in headwinds as well as I feel like it should and on really good rips I have felt that it tracks right some, but even though I never saw flutter, I always thought it was probably OAT. I still love the Obex for my overstable slot, I just don't really trust it for stiff headwinds (which is while I'll sometimes still pop a Gator in my bag).

 

[burdphil]

So I've been looking at the Cro because I heard it has the same bottom as the Pig... I love my Pigs and am looking for a slightly less complement. Is the Cro basically a beadless gator? Anyone know how much hss they have?

 

[Horsman]

Beadless Gators are still pretty common, even if they are pop, you can still get them easily so for now they are just stock for prices

 

[g2avity]

The Cro isn't as blunt-nosed as the Gator...and it will actually throw straight, not just meathook out of the hand. Like a Hornet ... except just a tad less overstable and with much less glide.